Who was in the wrong here?

Who gives a FUCK what Canadians want?

Goddamn you're dumb

BC would be a state and you know how autistic Americans are about muh states rights over the feds.
Plus, we're doing a perfectly good job of ruining nature all by ourselves.

>lost New Mexico and Arizona

Oh noes, muh desert, hostile natives and dry mountains!

Poor Canada, then it would be shit just like the USA.

Canadians.

arizona has an enormous mining sector and $100s of millions worth of silver before exploitation

Mexico
>Be colonized by Spain
>Even when defeated, Spaniards will attempt to reconquer several times and refuse to trade once they gave up
>Instead of selling the region, allow Americans to settle on the deserted teritories of the north to protect the place from Spanish incursions
>Americans stormed the place like the hypocrite cockroaches they are even when they were declared illegal after a year and eventually outnumbered Mexicans 6 to 1
>3 times less population than the Americans, while the Americans where trading with the Brits for 70 years already, 17 years prior to the war Mexicans were still at war with its former metropoli and virtually had no industry other than mining (thanks again Spain)

>>declare a war against a much stronger enemy you know has ambitions on half your country
so this is the power of american education, woah

Well there was no casus beli. It was a pretty bold war of conquest.

Mexico for losing.

The war is ongoing, Mexicans just found a smarter way to fight back and looking at the demographics they're going to win or at the very least cause a stalemate.

>Be Mexico
>Be develop
>Chimp out
>Become a poor unstable shithole
>Become poor
Mexicans are just dumb and they need a foraign country to rule them

Most Mexican-Americans will just return to Mexico if the projected economic growth of the country is true which would unironically even the population of both countries

t. the empire that lost 90% of its colonies when their internal strife got backed by a french manlet

Spain failed due masons sabotaging the country. Mexico failed due Mexicans invating invaders,being a meme country with no national identity and asking for too many loans.

Legally? Texans. Mexico was very clear. No slavery. Texans flagrantly disregarded the law of the land and were indisputably in the wrong. The Texas war of independence was a war fought to keep slavery.

>Spain failed due masons sabotaging the country

The projection is strong in this one

>The projection is strong in this one
>Not knowing about Riego
t. ugly manlet brainlet mestizo

Why in the FUCK would I ever do that, and how DARE you even ASK me that, and why aren't you more ashamed of yourself?

Santa Anna was a retard, his advisors told him to bring catholic irish settlers that were loyal to the old spanish crown to populate the land, but no, he had to bring protestant anglos with expansionist interests instead.

Fucking this, Mexico was ruined by fucking masons as well. Especially that fag Joel Roberts Poinsett, he was the one who infected us with masonry, told our government to reject everything related to Spain and Europe and cut ties with them and insisted to us in becoming a republic instead of a constitutional monarchy, as should have been.

This is "germans being killed off in Poland, so hitler attacked" tier history

As a Mexican living in Mexico, no.

If that were to happen, the US would become nothing but bridge and port to everything wrong from Central and South America.

Sure, you would get some mines, tuna and oil, but you would also get nation wide post-Nixon war on drugs shenanigans that I doubt anyone would like to handle.

Final note, you guys did reach the capitol and were recieved with open arms, but you left because you knew it was worth not anexing.

Both Mexico and the US are in the wrong here. California, Arizona and New Mexico are Hapsburg clay.

Texas is old Spanish just like Mexico they never changed the x for a j

America. They were nice enough to pay for the land anyway even though they should've and could've taken it for free by force.

Not without a genocide first

>Who was in the wrong here?
Nicholas Trist. What a fucking faggot.

>implying Canada isn't the shittier of the three

Give us a little credit.

>Arizona and New Mexico are Hapsburg clay
Don't you mean Bourbon clay?

Fuck all those pale face round eyes this Aztlan puto

>tfw live a few miles from where the Battle of La Angostura (Buena Vista for you, filthy plebs) took place.

Mexico because they were the ones that started hostilities.

Slavery is illegal in Mexico
>brings slaves anyways
>takes land from Mexicans
>Mexico tells them to fuck off
>they don't
>they secede
>USA gets involved and starts EU4-ing the map
>mexicos fault

>>declare a war against a much stronger enemy you know has ambitions on half your country
lol sure, Mexico was the aggressor, ok

>this is what americans actually believe
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredonian_Rebellion

>>declare a war against a much stronger enemy you know has ambitions on half your country

>Polk wants to buy southwest
>Mexico tells Polk to go fuck himself
>Polk sends troops into land that mexico had claimed since independence
>U.S. chimps out when U.S. troops are attacked on Mexican land
>U.S then justifies war of aggression by saying mexico sold the land
>"they were the ones that started hostilities"

"the war was one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation." -Ulysses S. Grant(who fought in the Mexican war)

>into land that had been disputed since Texas received independence from Mexico
FTFY

America, for giving Mexico back to the Mexicans.

What would be the fucking point. Canada and USA are both fucked to hell enough as it is.

annexing aztlan was the single biggest mistake the us ever made

t. poor white midwestern nationalist

ayy mang thats loco ese
*tips sombrero*

Daily reminder that Mexico had no right to own those lands which were handed down to them by the Spanish and were almost entirely inhabited by Native Americans.

>since Texas received independence from Mexico
Never happened. I assume you're referring to the Treaty of Velasco, but it was never ratified by the Mexican government, whose position was that Texas was still Mexican territory in revolt.

>how autistic Americans are about muh states rights over the feds.
Except we're not. The Union shot the everliving shit out of States rights. State government are barely more than a formality anymore.

>The war is ongoing
Stop being paranoid.

I read somewhere that the Spanish Empire and then Mexico cared so little about California that they never even surveyed it.

They never knew about (for example) Mt. Shasta, even though it's an ultra-prominent peak visible for great distances in various directions.

They never discovered any of the gold that was literally just sitting around in streambeds out in the open.

They didn't know which tribes inhabited the region aside from the ones on the coast directly surrounding their missions.

It doesn't sound like the territory they claimed was actually "theirs" in any substantive sense.

Can you truly even lose something that you never knew you had?