Euros (or "Whites) don't have a legitimate claim to these civilizations and their religious traditions with any accomplishments. Neither do Negroes but that's not the point.
Also: >Greeks >Romans
Non-Southern Euros like Nords don't have a legitimate claim to these either.
when this wewuz meme will finally be over and people will start being proud of their personal achievements, studying the past and being inspired by different eras and civilizations instead of looking at a better moment of "their own civilization" and simply saying "muh ancestor" as if they were part of it.
Nathaniel Bailey
No European has claimed to be a part of Persian or Indian civilization. However these are all indo-European civilizations that have many similarities.
As for Southern Europeans vs other Europeans, Rome spanned a large area and celts where absolutely sharers in Classical civilization. Also you have nations like Russia which by virtue of their conversion to Orthodoxy by the Eastern Roman Empire share in Greco-Roman civilization.
According to genetics Sardians and Portuguese are closer related to carthaginians than modern North Africans.
Lucas Hughes
Maybe I don't come to this board nearly enough but I have rarely every seen anyone claiming that the men of these civilizations were "aryan" or white.
Liam Stewart
AYO NIGGA THE ROMANZ AND GREEAKS WERE BLACK. WHACHU DALKING ABOUT SON?
Luke Long
You forgot Sumeria, Babylonia, and China
Thomas Johnson
Nobody does except this retard. He does this same shit on /int/ as well. I don't understand why he hasn't been banned yet. He posts literally nothing worthwhile.
Zachary Reyes
> According to genetics Sardians and Portuguese are closer related to carthaginians than modern North Africans.
Canaanites were found to be both different from modern Lebanese and closest to modern Assyrians among the sampled populations (and not Palestinians).
Mason Thompson
Euros can claim Phoenicians easily
Especially Iberians, Sardinians and Sicilians
Brayden Wright
Levantine Arabs and north Africans are more rightful for that
Gabriel Long
>North Africans
No.
Luis Morris
>South Spain >South Italy They're pretty much half arabs anyway
Joshua Gutierrez
They didn't found Carthage, Phoencia, or were actually Carthaginians.
Adam Murphy
If north Africans can't then Iberians, Sardinians and Sicilians sure as shit can't.
Christopher Hernandez
Is the "Persians were more similar to Europeans 2500 years ago" claim substantiated at all? It's possible they were more like eastern slavs/original IE peoples but I've no clue as to how true that is. Please "red pill" me Veeky Forums
James Morris
Phoenicia isn't a city, I don't know how you can found a loosely defined region in the Levant.
Also their ancestors were Phoenicians so they did come from Phoenician (especially from Tyre)
Explain why
Christian Thomas
And what were those North Africans?
Christopher King
As you can see from your own picture modern North Africans are 1/4 negroid
Landon Campbell
They're all just Phoenician colony, either count them all or only Levantine are the Phoenicians
Aaron Allen
>Carthaginians weren't migrants who used already settled North Africans and Euros as goons.
Matthew Parker
>Sardinia >Arabs Nice meme.
Cameron Allen
Carthaginians displaced the locals mercilessly and resettled the regions they colonized
Gavin Davis
Sardinians are arabs in the sense that they are genetically identical to Levantine arabs (in the past known as Phoenicians/Canaanites), the same goes for South Iberians and Sicilians
Jaxson Brown
And yet the Ancient Egyptians were apparently close to select Bedouins and Palestinians.
Ryan Lee
Why u mad Ahmed shouldn't you be getting in your truck around London
Gabriel Phillips
>Hebrews
South Italians and Greeks can easily claim that heritage as well
Isaiah Baker
> Carthaginians displaced the locals mercilessly
And where this great North African to.Spanish genocide mentioned?
Adrian Perez
Only if their Ashkenazi Jews. And besides, Samaritians with Mizrahi Jews are around.
Lucas Reed
Look at the Spanish today, the Greeks first recorded them as tall, blonde celts and we know they were celts, then they were displaced by Levantines, same thing happened in Sardinia and Sicily (in Sicily we had Italio-celts, in Sardinia we had Iberian like celts)
Jason Williams
lol. The genetic impact is a minority, which indicates that 'colonization' wasn't as widespread enough to make them similar or identical to Levantines. The populations of Spain and Portugal haven't really changed much at all.
John Johnson
>WE
No. Sardinians aren't MENAs. And Spain from avaliable evidence has long had an affinity to North Africa.
Evan Cox
>in Sardinia we had Iberian like celts No. There was nothing like that. Sardinians are genetically the same since the Neolithic and the Nuragic era, Carthaginians (and everyone else after them) didn't do shit.
Henry Walker
Spain doesn't have shit to do with North Africa and your autism map shows it, Spaniards and Sardinians are close together being Phoenician brethren, odd that Sicilians are so far away but the Greeks must have made a number on them
Landon Wood
They had celtic like swords and ibero celtic swords, plus the bell beaker pottery typical of proto/ibero celts.
These genetic studies bullshit needs to end, archaeology tells a different story, one of a celtic Europe way before we imagined
Ryder Edwards
You can see from this and other similar maps that Iberians, Celts, Sards and Sicilians shared the same celtioiberic pottery
Leo Adams
> Spain doesn't have shit to do with North Africa
Spanish North.
> Spaniards and Sardinians are close together being Phoenician brethren
>Lebanese are far away from them
Gavin Anderson
> These genetic studies bullshit needs to end
>Genetics is witchcraft
Aiden Sullivan
>autism map >shows how distant Lebanese are >lol no they're Phoenician brethren
Jaxson Morris
Yeah because Lebanese=Phoenicians, right?
No.
an ancient Carthaginian's DNA was studied and he was similar to Portugal, AKA Iberian.
Food for thought.
Hudson Fisher
>Celtic No. They spoke a pre-indoeuropean language (similar to Basque), and were a pre-indoeuropean civilization. The Celts took after them and their "brethren" (that, like the Basque, existed on Iberia as well), not the opposite. It's like saying everyone was a Celt because of megalithic structures like menhirs and dolmens, that existed way before them.
Logan Robinson
>No European has claimed to be a part of Persian or Indian civilizatio Then whats with the Aryan memeing that is going on till today.
The Canaanite sample was closest to Near Easterners like Assyrians, Mizrahi Jews, and Druze.
Nathaniel Perry
Yes, Lebanese are Phoenicians. The DNA they found was rare European hunter-gatherer, that persisted in Northern Iberia before the Phoenicians even arrived in South Iberia. Also, Spain and Portugal hold some of the oldest continental European DNA.
Gavin Cooper
Its the daily "nords wuznt kangz" thread! Oh wait... there are atleast one of those every hour...
Colton Bennett
>It's a lazy leftcucks completely miss the point of a meme and ape it's construction screw for screw with a slap of new lefty paint on it episode BOOOORING
Andrew Gomez
All this "we wuzing" still,going on by,whites on the low. Are we forgetting that modern racial,classifications are useless for the past and race is,much more nuanced than that? Or will we continue to use blanket terms to describe all regions of people as white or black.
Oliver Carter
to be honest greeks have been wewuzzing about mycenaeans for about 3000 years now, i think sardinia can claim a proto indo european civilization
Bentley Cox
The mods on Veeky Forums are some of the most lax I have ever seen. I regularly shit up the board with pol-tier threads and never get banned, just warnings. Some mod even knocked out 3 of my threads at the same time and I still didn't get banned.
Based Veeky Forums mods. I am guessing they either think it's funny or are poltards themselves
Easton Brown
Hi there, I'm probably the guy who reported most of your threads. Just letting you know I hate you but if the mods aren't willing to do anything about you they are complicit in your crimes against this board.
Adrian Morales
Good, mods are for cucks Faggot
Ethan Anderson
>According to genetics Sardians and Portuguese are closer related to carthaginians than modern North Africans.
No, you're drastically misinterpreting the results. What the test found was that ONE specific genetic sample was the closest to ONE specific man living in southern Portugal, not that all Portuguese are the closest to Carthaginians. Which would have more to do with the fact that the Carthaginians ruled Iberia and there was a lot of trade between those regions. Meanwhile the Canaanite test outright states that the results suggest significant genetic continuity in the Levant.
Julian Cooper
Sicilians, South Spaniards, and Portuguese are not "identical to Levantine Arabs".
Ian Sanchez
Are you implying Sephardic and Italic Jews don't exist?
William Clark
They were definitely connected. Also had similar deities and (to some extent) architectural knowledge.
Nathan Martinez
proofs with citations?
Dylan Davis
Also this.
Thomas Brown
Don't forget this
Mason Powell
I didn't have that one. Thanks.
Carter Reed
Sicillians and other South Italians are closest to Ashkenazi Jews of all MENA populations as seen here.
Luis Walker
Never. People did that all the time.
John Perez
>pol
Gabriel Martinez
Except it's only you fucking yanks that like to larp about this shit
Levi Lee
>Pretending Europeans Weren't We Wuzzing
Aryans.
Kevin Perry
Still not the closest to Isrealites.
Brody Turner
>However these are all indo-European civilizations that have many similarities
Like what? How were they similar to Europeans?
Tyler Roberts
What was the point of the meme?
Easton Jones
Nigger
Mason Hill
Sardinians are paleo-MENA though. They have significantly Natufian related origins and if Natufians aren't MENA then no one is.
John Powell
>can easily claim that heritage as well
That's true, so can Spaniards. 1 in 3 of them Jewish ancestry if I recall.
Liam Russell
What about richard spencer?
Colton Watson
>Egypt White. DNA proved they were British. Ruling class atleast >The Hebrews Undoubtedly white. King David was a red head. Just look at pic related the Jewess on the right is from Egypt and the one on the left is Eastern European Jew. It's the eternal Jew they've always been this way, the darker ones have been tainted by Arab or African blood. >Carthage They definitely weren't black. >Persia They are Indo-Europeans, the ones who never practiced Islam like Freddie Mercury are still white because they didn't mix with Arabs. The ones who still practice Zoroastrianism have the best claim on Persia and in most cases are white. >India Lots of Northern Indians are objectively white, plus the shared Indo-European heritage
Jose Harris
>the ones who never practiced Islam like Freddie Mercury are still white because they didn't mix with Arabs. The ones who still practice Zoroastrianism have the best claim on Persia and in most cases are white.
This, people who think the modern-day Iranians look like the Persians did you are clueless
Connor Jenkins
These are all objectively white.
Dominic Stewart
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Isaiah Wright
Why do you hate Scandinavians?
Matthew Ross
>Euros (or "Whites) don't have a legitimate claim to these civilizations
They objectively do. King Tut was British.
Connor Carter
Weird, I got a 1-day ban on here for posting a nigger-ized picture of Hitler a few days ago.
It's always hilarious when MENAs claim to be whites but look just like Mulattos/Quadroons.
lmao
He's not American, he's Swedish. Or at least uses a Swedish proxy on /int/.
I'll grant you that much, but Spencer's views aren't even mainstream within the Alt-Right.
Luis Jackson
As long as there is collective guilt there will be a collective swingback. As long as people are held to account for being white they will expect to be given credit (or they won't lol as we're seeing)
Sorry, but some of us really were kings. I am the rightful heir to Rome.
Alexander Morris
No, they are not, they have substantial WHG admixture and some minor Yamnaya
Carter Anderson
Not OP vut >protestants >cucks >Elitist with nothing to boast about beyond finding elements on the periodic table (something other groups would have found eventually) >Historically assaulted Greco-Roman and Latin-Orthodox civilization >Brutally attacked Poland while sucking Jamal's cock >Wewuzing as Romans because they can't admit they got btfo by hairy Italian manlets >Neopaganism >Feminism >liberalism Alot of reason exist to hate scandies desu.
Nathan Sullivan
Nice try, but Zoroastrians look little to not different from Muslim Persians in Yazd (where they come from largely).
Luke Lopez
Pic related, they cluster very far away from Natufians
James Roberts
people in that pic look so "JUST" lol.
Easton Morris
No shit. He obviously meant apart from that
Isaac Ross
...
Cooper Collins
If you can't see how language similarities would effect society and lifestyle as a whole I really pity you. Indo-European civilizations shared a religious pantheon for thousands of years as well, a pantheon which still has great importance in society even if they are no longer worshiped.
Parker Kelly
>It's always hilarious when MENAs claim to be whites but look just like Mulattos/Quadroons.
Except the point of the chart was to show that North Africans back in the day had core ancestries like other MENAs. Note the brown.
Luis Price
>language similarities would effect society and lifestyle
>a pantheon which still has great importance in society
lol
>shared a same pantheon
They vaguely shared a few divinities, very, very vaguely, and the Greek pantheon ws also influenced by the Near Eatserners god and demi gods such as Herclues
James Rodriguez
>They vaguely shared a few divinities, very, very vaguely It wasn't vague at all you retard.
Nathaniel Hall
indo-European societies place great importance on cows and bulls.
Joshua Stewart
>jonathanbecher
Literally who? Not gonna waste my time reading that
William Collins
WE >cherrypicking
Michael Nguyen
Why would we give a shit about Rome or Greece when we already have the greatest empire that has ever existed?
Bentley Torres
>the Persians were more similar to Germanics than to their Mesopotamian neighbors
This is what nu-Veeky Forums actually believes
Jonathan Clark
Yeah it was, you insecure wewuzzer retard, the are only vague similarities apart from the Deus Pater, and most of those vague similarities are foten only shared by a few indoeuropean peoples, almost never by all. So did non Indoeuropean societies such as Sumerians, Egyptians, Neolithic Anatolians and Europeans