From a purely objective point of view, what economic system is the best overall for society?

>Dumb comparison. Somalia is ruled by a number of small warlords and Islamic fundamentalists. They aren't a society without laws, there's just dozens of competing groups trying to instill their own laws.

sounds like an ancap paradise to me

The warlords run defacto ministates

No, government is. Ancap America wouldn't turn out like Somali because it's not populated by Somalians. What the Ancaps really want is to rewind legislative institutions but they offer zero explanation for why things won't just repeat themselves in almost the exact same way.

ancaps are retards who dont realize that anarcho-capitalism is just the polar opposite of communism. both are jewish tricks designed to fuck goyim out of their shekels.
they push communism in poor society to take control over everything.
in rich societies they push ancap so huge corporations can become de-facto nationstates with unlimited power.

both are terrible, destructive ideologies and both were designed by jews. natsoc is literally the golden path in the middle, the perfect and most sane compromise between socialism and free market. case in point hitlers economic miracle.. this is not an economic theory, it has actually been fieldtested and is proven to work fantastically well.
unlike communism and ancap which produce terrible results whenever they are used.

>inb4 "they never tried REAL ancap/communism"

corporations can't exist in ancapistan because there is no government to collude with

ancapistan is the jews worst nightmare, because they are forced onto a level playing field with no state to lobby to

And how different would it be from an ancap society?
>Ancap gets rich
>He buys all the private police/military forces
>He then forces people to sell him their land
>If not they will be sent to the prison he owns
>They are now subjects under his control
>Become his slaves for minimal return
>The rich man gets richer
>Enslaves even more people.

Fringes never understand these concepts. It is the same shit with Tankies and the far left.

>corporations can't exist in ancapistan because there is no government to collude with

lol ancap leads to oligarchy by default

>ancapistan is the jews worst nightmare, because they are forced onto a level playing field with no state to lobby to

sure, thats why most of the ancap thinkers are jews and turbo-kikes like Peter Schiff keep shilling "muh free market"

>lol ancap leads to
nobody knows what ancap leads to because it's entirely theoretical. and are you scared of being placed on a level playing field with the jews in a free market? sounds kind of pussy bruh

>there's just dozens of competing groups trying to instill their own laws
that's what ancap is
we're already living in an ancap society, it's just that your imaginary group wouldn't win because you suck ass and are probably a fatlus loser
the US Government is the current winner of ancapistan
deal with it, Fatlus

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Memorial_Prize_in_Economic_Sciences

>be ancapistan
>no rules, no regulations
>organizations form to pool resources
>organizations begin competing for power and resources
>a handful of organizations (most likely the most ruthless and psychopathic) establish dominance
>ancapistan is now ruled by a small number of huge corporations and de-facto an oligarchy

how is this not the inevitable outcome of ancap?

>are you scared of being placed on a level playing field with the jews in a free market?

I dont want to be on any playing field with the demonic jews. I want them all genocided so peaceful natsocs can live in peace and prosper.

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>I dont want to be on any playing field with the demonic jews. I want them all genocided so peaceful natsocs can live in peace and prosper.

I want you both genocided 2bh

what about the other part of my post user
how is oligarchy not the inevitable outcome of ancap? you do as an ancap youre a jewish pawn, no?

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*realize

ancap relies on the populace to be of high IQ and well educated, because the true law of the land in ancapistan is the wallet of the consumer. all it takes to stop shekelberg from forming a monopoly is for the consumers to simply stop purchasing from him and going to competitor. obviously these concepts of freedom and choice are lost on a natsoc brainlet like yourself

monopoly is extremely rare in a free market because you'ld need to buy out any competition that pops up and still offer the best products at the lowest costs, which is good for everyone. Most monopolies exist today because of govt intervention, regulating competitors out of business. the epipen fiasco is the most recent example I can think of.

corporate consolidation is also very costly, but even if it did happen, who cares? As long as said oligarchy provides what the people want, they will buy. If some super-rich camarilla decided to start dumping poison into the river, then people would get pissed stop buying their shit. Those pissed off people would then seek to do business elsewhere. Evildoing is bad for business. In a free market, people vote with their wallets, because capitalism afford the individual the greatest amount of freedom and control of his life.

>ancap relies on the populace to be of high IQ and well educated

yeah see thats why I consider ancap complete fantasyland-ideology
the reality is that most people are dumb as fuck and will fall for the jewish tricks over and over again. just look at how many people here bought bancor lol. ancap completely tunes out the realities we live in. it relies on people being smart and making smart decisions. the truth is people are dumb, you need smart people at the top to guide them. hence natsoc.

quasi-monopolies happen all the time. what about amazon, microsoft. these companies got a headstart in emerging markets and are now too big to fail.

>corporate consolidation is also very costly, but even if it did happen, who cares? As long as said oligarchy provides what the people want, they will buy.

you care as soon as one of those oligarchs decides he can just enslave you or genocide you and replace you with robots and theres no state to protect you.

>Evildoing is bad for business.

actually its good for business
sociopaths rise to the top of the power pyramid specifically because they are ruthless and have no conscience

>If some super-rich camarilla decided to start dumping poison into the river, then people would get pissed stop buying their shit.

not true. huge oil corps have dumped trillions of barrels of oil in the oceans because of their fuckups. people keep buying their products because they have too. if there was no state enforcing environmental protection laws it would be way worse than it already is. case in point china.

>what about amazon, microsoft.

both corporations that maintain their monopoly through crony capitalist lobbying and subsidies from the government

>people keep buying their products because they have too

they have to because they are corporations that maintain their monopoly through crony capitalist lobbying and subsidies from the government

>you care as soon as one of those oligarchs decides he can just enslave you or genocide you and replace you with robots and theres no state to protect you.

Govt exists for this reason. it protects your rights. thats it. Even now there is still nothing a private entity can do to you without your permission. it is only for this reason that ancap can't exist in reality, bc eventually the people will form a loose confederation to protect your natural rights.

>sociopaths rise to the top of the power pyramid specifically because they are ruthless and have no conscience

they rise to the top because they offer products and services that benefit consumers. just bc steve jobs was a dick doesn't mean he didn't bring the world into a second age. you're just regurgitating the robber baron myth.

>not true. huge oil corps have dumped trillions of barrels of oil in the oceans because of their fuckups. people keep buying their products because they have too.

Drilling is never 100% safe. And you're right that they have to, because without oil millions of people would starve or freeze to death. I value the lives of people over fish, which is why I accept that risk when I buy gasoline. They are still responsible to pay for the accident.

>if there was no state enforcing environmental protection laws it would be way worse than it already is. case in point china.

As long as companies don't violate others rights, they can do what they want. Poisoning my well water is an externality, so I'm within my right to retaliate. The people of China have protested, and the Chinese govt has been creating laws to reduce emissions since 2015. govt is only ever necessary when rights are being violated.

you know what I like about you ancap fags?
I think youre completely delusional but at least you guys are reasonable and can back up your shit with arguments
Im about to go to sleep but will reply tomorrow if this is not in the archive already
sieg heil my ancap friends. you will always be welcome in the fourth reich as long as you obey our laws.

>true law of the land in ancapistan is the wallet of the consumer.
jesus christ was a fucking dystopia. Ancaps are absolute garbage tier materialist faggots. I hate you more than communists because you are just so fucking jewish it's insane. Literally all you care about are shekels. Not family, not loyalty, not honor. Not anything transcendent. Youre jews, all of you.

This thread reminded me of when I was in middle school and thought anarchy was cool. lol

t. stormweenie
All we want is to be left alone bro. Nothing has been more destructive to the family unit than socialism

>Not family, not loyalty, not honor. Not anything transcendent.

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>level playing field
>not using your resources to get more resources
>not having a structure and rules for your guys so they can be easily controled and control others
Wait a minute? Did I just make yet another government?

It's like democracy.
>greek fuckbois do one person, one vote
>gets fucked by demogauges
>smart people pool votes together to counter this to push own governments
>make informal codes to not screw your own team
>people specialize in tasks
>groups get larger, codes become laws
>aw shiet, we just created yet another representative government

I hate government, but it is a necessary evil. Men better than me have tried and failed.

>purely objective
Literally no such thing. Which ethical system are you using to decide what is "best"? Utilitarianism? Deontology?
You have to specify criteria for something being good before you can even ask this question

*sigh* pls go back to pol

btfo

Pretty sure Mexico is a good example of how ancap would actually play out.

it was financed by jews

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