Once the West inevitably gets BTFO'ed this century, which region will become the economic leader of the world?

By 2030, Chinese will have roughly twice the economy of the US. Year 2030 is closer to US and year 2000, just to put that in perspective. India will be ~ 2/3 as large as the US by then too, to put that in perspective, India's economy will be roughly twice as strong as US's current day economy.

The USA has vast untapped economic potential, a quickly adapting economy, a relatively fast growing population due to immigration, and fingers in every economic pie, as well as a large degree of soft power. They'll remain top dog for a while. Western Europe is relatively fucked though. The age of Benelux on its own having a GDP comparable to China are long passed. And unless China, India, and Africa were to remain pre-industrial shitholes forever (odds were basically zero, especially given the ideologies of both superpowers after WW2), it was inevitable.

The USA and China will be the top two (and closely linked) for at least the next century probably. The likes of France and Britain will probably be ursuped by Mexico and Brazil. India will take Japan's place.

the US economy focuses of innovation and RND
With a stronger EU they could be out competed out of their own market.

Your understanding of modern economics is deeply flawed.

ahh yes, the "US economy will stay the exact same while everyone else races ahead" post.

pretty soon we'll get the retard who'll bring up le trillion dollar debt xDDD as proof that the US is fucked.

Chine has more population than US and EU together, the common Chinese is very hardworking, but capable of creativity, different from Japaneses and Koreans, once chine ruled this world, once more they will.

the US economy is far more advanced than everyone else's.

If US economy stayed the same as 2017 by 2030, it would be third largest economy. Economist don't assume US economy will be static but rather with growth rate ~2-3%. This is their projection.

India's growth rate is projected to be around 6-10%. China's growth rate is similar. Meanwhile US's growth rate has been roughly 2-3%.

China and India are still developing countries that haven't fully developed both have LOTS of room to grow, this is why their economies will match the US by 2030.

For some time it will be more advanced, but US has abandoned what made it rich.

>Your understanding of modern economics is deeply flawed.
Educate me then, oh Wise one.

which was the rest of the world recovering from devastating wars?
Of course modi and his cow cohorts will slow it down.

US was a powerful economy WW1.

Your argument against world bank economist is Indian cows?

no it's that our current political scene is dominated by election theatrics. last year the government removed 86% of the currency circulating in the economy overnight because it wanted to win a state election, crippling india's growth rate in this quarter. This kind of quixotic decisionmaking will harm india's prospects in the long run

How about China, nothing seems to stop them.

their population is largely reaching below fertility levels, (india is currently at replacement levels but high base population means that the trends will increase until the 2050s.) They are also focused on research and innovation and are adding value to their economy.

The chinese have their economic plan well in hand

India hasn't shut down its economy or atleast haven't heard anything like that. If it shuts down, then the projections will be off. Otherwise, these small things wont matter 13 years down the line.

>last year the government removed 86% of the currency circulating in the economy overnight
Holy shit. Is India hellbent on suicide or something?

>withdrew nearly all of the currency in the economy overnight
>nothing major
wew

From reading the news, it seems like anti-corruption move. Those rich tax dodgers got shut off.

Seems bit disingenuous to say this removed circulating currency when the fact is, this simply removed the non-circulating money. The circulating bill seems to be replaced by new bills. So only ones that seem to be hurt are the illegal cash hoarders.

It was a nice election theatric
the BJP said that it was going to
>make india use more digital transactions
>cleanse corruption
>stimulate the economy (somehow)
>make it a rich versus poor divide

Most elections in india are run with cash, destroying it overnight means that every party's election was disrupted allowing BJP to win the state election in india's most populous state.

Our leaders don't want india to be developed. They want a big economy that their friends and family can take large sized slices of so that they can live like kings abroad and masturbate over how much india is developing. It's neo feudalism at it's finest.

The stability of the Chinese government relies on continued economic growth.

If the government can't deliver on their promise of prosperity, the people will tolerate less of the bullshit the party does to remain in control of non-economic aspect of life, and all the fucking corruption.

There are many disagreements within the CCP, but the one thing they all agree on is that nothing should harm long term economic growth.

Most money in india is stored in the form of
>gold
>real estate
illegal cash is fucking peanuts compared to those. If they were serious about combating corruption they would have made real estate transactions via banks.

The government also started printing notes AFTER invalidating currency overnight. Now every ATM in non major cities are empty and people aren't accepting credit cards. Not to mention that india's agricultural sector is based off cash transfers which were rendered void overnight.

I don't see news of Indian economy collapsing or coming to halt.

Is this your own doomsday projection? Or am I missing something here?

Please separate your emotional response from logical and rational ones.

growth slowed down by 2% last quarter. That's a pretty big self inflicted blunder. India is adding large numbers of people that need to be employed. Crippling your economy is not the way to go about it.

also to add, countless man hours were lost when people were standing outside banks and ATMs trying to convert their old useless notes into newer notes. Industrial growth was a negative

>India will take Japan's place.
Looks like the 2030 meme wasn't just a meme after all

When will the golden age of eastern europe come???

>When will the golden age of eastern europe come???
>Slavshits.
>Having a Golden Age.
The only thing Slavshits are good for is toilet cleaning and Balkanization.

Adriatic when the Atlantis rises

>be the nice guy
>be the first large states to end slavery
>send millions to their deaths to fight slavers, monarchists and fascists
>be the first to push for civil rights
>discriminate against your ethnic majority men to offset supposed subconscious invisible racism
>grant independence to colonies
>apologise profuseley for the behavior of your predecessors
>give away a proportion of your GDP in aid
>"LOL BTFO"
Feeding the wolves is nice, but is it good?

>Once the West inevitably gets BTFO'ed this century
This won't happen though, not in the way you think. Another might become economically dominant, but the west won't "decline", standards of living and quality of life will remain high, basically the whole world just gets better.

Everyone endlessly bitches and whines about how bad things are and are getting but honestly the entire world is improving for humanity in almost every country on earth. Mostly due to technology.

For example, there are literally no poor people in the west, the only ones who are properly poor as in destitute, are utter human failures who managed to fuck up in a system where money and food is literally given to you for free.

Do you actually know how much portion of the GDP US spends on aid?

>npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/02/10/383875581/guess-how-much-of-uncle-sams-money-goes-to-foreign-aid-guess-again

Also we're not just feeding the wolves, but rather taming the wolves. We don't give away money for free, but rather ask something in return. Cooperation/trade deals/etc.

I cannot wait to see western countries get colonized

Nobody needs your patronage, and there is nothing to thank you for

Do yourself a favor and research exactly what America's "foreign aid" entails. I assure you it's not what you think.

China or India

>give a homeless guy $5
>"wtf, you owe me much more than that"
so this is the moral superiority of social justice

Dude, she lost, dont have to be so mad now.

Chinese, since they're closer to ant than primate.

I'll take things that never happened for $200, please.

> go to a poor district
> here's a glock and bullets
> WTF man we need bread more than guns
> ungrateful welp, why aren't you killing your fellow poors with the gun I just gave you

China hopefully.

The thought of India being so terrifies me. I'd rather have greedy fucks than superstitious cunts.

I dont think they will bring hinduism into politics, there is a chance consider they bring it to tech jobs.

Gotta get those elephant horns to cure the erectile dysfunction tho.

>he doesn't want powerlevels in his economy

The emerging world order will be somewhat tetrapolar, with America, Russia, China, and India all vying for power. The will be militarily irrelevant without Britain's support. Brazil and Japan won't be anything resembling superpowers in the foreseeable future.

Yeah but part of that shift is Europe's economy got so much better after about 1000 AD. The "High Middle Ages" were a great time for Europe, relatively speaking.

The "economists" in this thread are far off from reality. When the Fourth Industrial Revolution hits, the way economy works will change. Half of the population will be unemployed. Robots will substitute low-skilled workers. High birth rates from low-education population will make unemployment even worse. Europe will fall because they are trying to replace their shrinking working population with immigrants and not machines. Quality of life in places like Sweden is already falling with the mere presence of low-education immigrants. First it's just high number of rape crimes and muslim gangs, but when unemployment comes, when government debt rises to dangerous levels and immigrants keep breeding, shit will hit the fan.
Japan and Korea will not be affected by this. They are the main creators of automation and working machines. Their quality of life won't change.
China's and India's working force may suffer more than it does currently but they can still produce goods and keep growing economically. Who cares if investing in a robot will allow companies to pay less wages when their wages are the lowest in the world anyway?
I have no idea about the United States. It depends on Trump's unpredictable policies I suppose.

>which region will become the economic leader of the world?
Orthodox Civilization.

>Japanese civilization
WTF?

Huntington couldn't do basic research and I'm always mad that this shit map gets reposted.

You can totally where he was just coloring within the borders and where he was actually paying attention to, like that ridiculous granularity in the Guyanas or the Chinese enclave in the Philippines. It's just so strange.

Of course not, that would be absurd, as is rejoicing at the fact the west is in (relative) decline as a direct result of it doing all the things mentioned here Boko Haram are literally raping children right now but you will still hate a businessman who starts a factory in Lagos and creates jobs more. Your moral compass is completely out of whack with reality.

Agreed. Steal the best and brightest from the developing world. It's worked for so long, and now the conservatives are fucking it up because some of them are brown. WTF?

Woah, Trump is better than Boko Haram, therefore he's morally good. Is this your argument? Being above one of the worse men in current day doesn't make Trump good by any means. It simply means Trump isn't THAT bad. Depravity of humans have no limit.

They're about to go full western europe with their demographics
At least they're not being ethnically replaced