1. Carthage
2. Venice
3. Spain
4. Portugal
5. Netherlands
6. United Kingdom (britannia)
7. Japan
8. United States
9. Probably some Oceanic tribes
Am I missing anyone?
ITT: countries that ruled the waves
Henry Edwards
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Thomas Russell
Majapahit/srivijaya/SEA in general
Jaxson Young
Athens
Hudson Long
yes.
Jace Sanders
Song, Tang, and Ming Dynasty navies.
Rome and early Byzantium.
Parker Evans
cholas with 1100 naval warships.
Jason Jenkins
en.m.wikipedia.org
Most autistic wiki article I've read in a while. Are Dravidians the real wewuzzers?
Liam Hughes
Genoa
Jack Fisher
I also heard the Chola Empire map on Wikipedia is a big exaggeration.
But Dravidians actually wuz, though.
Jaxson Anderson
>Rome and early Byzantium.
Funny. I heard those were land powers.
Logan Lewis
You forgot Carthage's dad, Phoenicia.
Isaiah Walker
>Carthage ruled the waves
>a fucking thalassocracy losing a was to utter landlubbers
The only thing Carthage was is a disgrace. If you wanted to have a sea power from antiquity use Rhodes or Athens instead.
Leo Evans
>I heard those were land powers.
Rome still had a monopoly on sea power from Oresund to the southernmost coasts of Morocco, all Mediterranean (also some Red Sea and Persian Gulf at times) included. They definitely ruled the waves even if it wasn't their focus.
Byzantium had a spotty record with lots of ups and downs, but eh it probably still counts considering there weren't other real organized navies at the times, just raiders.
Robert Hill
WE WUZ COMPASS N SHIET
Ethan Bennett
The Mediterranean was called mare nostrum for a reason
Juan Collins
after punic wars and with the conquest of greece Rome had the total supremacy on the mediterranium, they still had a lot of problems with piracy tho, probably for the reason you said, it was a land power and their control of the sea was a direct consequence of it, they have never been a mainly naval nation like Phoenicia and Carthage
Robert Davis
This. Rome turned the Med. into it's private lake.
Chase Robinson
You mean this one?
Daniel Jones
You do understand Carthage was a dominant power for centuries before the Punic Wars, right? Every empire eventually falls.
Robert Fisher
CARTHAGO DELENDA EST
Hannibal was great.
David Lee
>carthage
>empire
lol
Hunter Lopez
"Carthage was thePhoeniciancity-stateofCarthageand during the 7th to 3rd centuries BC, included its sphere of influence, theCarthaginian Empire. The empire extended over much of the coast ofNorth Africaas well as encompassing substantial parts of coastalIberiaand the islands of the westernMediterranean Sea"
Owen Lee
>Carthage
>Rome isn't on the list
MARE NOSTRVM
Liam Fisher
If only Carthage gave him actual support.
Dominic Russell
still not an empire
Xavier Gray
>Srivijaya
yes
>Majapahit
no
Jeremiah Cook
Empire: a group of nations or peoples ruled over by an emperor, empress, or other powerful sovereign or government: usually a territory of greater extent than a kingdom
Asher Wood
carthage is a kingdom
James Russell
How were they a kingdom if by 480 bc the government had two elected suffetes, aristocratic council (tribunal of 104) and an assembly representing the people.