Post Peoples or Cultures that have been effectively lost to time for whatever reason be it disease or conquest
Pic Related, the Guanche People were a group of Proto-Berber people indigenous to the Canary Islands. Are there any of them left? What did they look like? Where did they come from?
There was a Brythonic speaking population in the south of Ireland until the 9th century. The Irish called their language "Iarmbélre", or "Iron speech", "because of the darkness of the language, and its obscurity and density, so that it is difficult to explore"
Blake Lopez
While there are many examples of small and, frankly, irrelevant people that have largely disappeared, I'm more interested in the disappearance of entire civilizations and cultural traditions.
For example, the "Mitteleuropa" civilization of the late XIXth and early 20th centuries, the German-speaking, urban civilization of Central and Eastern Europe, that gave us Austrian art, German science and Hungarian and Polish mathematics, has largely disappeared, and nothing remains but a few surviving Habsburg buildings.
The Turco-Persian civilization of the Muslim world is another example of lost urban culture. It once spanned from the walls of Vienna to Bengal, but now even Iran turns its back to it. It remains in Sufi shrines of South Asia, but even this is also disappearing thanks to the pressures of modernization and Islamism.
Julian Russell
Speaking of the Muslim world, what were the Berbers like before they were Arabized? I remember reading that the Amazigh Berbers are the closest to the original Berbers before the Islamic Conquests began
Jose Perez
Selknam
William Rivera
>Mesopotamia: the entire thread
Tyler Torres
Any peoples that could be mentioned here are already better off than the thousands we will never even know existed
Isaac Sullivan
can't wait for this to happen to white people
Tyler Bell
The Olmecs
Jaxson Johnson
>the "Mitteleuropa" civilization of the late XIXth and early 20th centuries, the German-speaking, urban civilization of Central and Eastern Europe, that gave us Austrian art, German science and Hungarian and Polish mathematics It's called the Austro-Hungarian empire,they haven't been lost to time. This thread is about people like the Cucuteni-Trypilians or the Hwan-guk hyper empire, who have been totally wiped out with barely a trace left.
Don't worry. San Francisco will always provide refuge for and embrace the Ainus.
Joseph Wright
All of my ancestors are from the area of where the cucuteni-Trypillian culture was.
Isaac Williams
There's this one French group on the very tip of my tongue that I can't quite remember. It wasn't the Cathars or the Huguenots. It was a group that we know basically nothing about other than that they were persecuted for some unknown reason. Anyone else know what I'm talking about?
Robert Cook
The Occitans?
Nathan Thompson
The Nuragic civilization.
These people had aqueducts, metal pipes, left behind thousands of stone structures and refined temples,built the massive stone statues predating those of Greece by at least two centuries, they had their own ponderal system and adopted a writing system in their later phases according to the latest studies.
Ancient historians often said that the ancient inhabitants were Tyrrenians/Pelasgians, so I think that they might have been related to the Etruscans, they also found out that in the earlier phases of the Etruscan civilization Nuragic people lived among them in some of the cities by the coasts, those near to the iron deposits.
Easton Long
No no no. I mean we literally know nothing about this group other than they were persecuted and hated. We don't even know what membership of the group entailed, as they seemed to have the same phenotype and religion as their neighbors. The name's just not quite coming to me.
Connor Hall
Indus Valley culture.
Thomas Gray
Are you talking about the Basque? Or is that Spain?
Robert Martinez
That's Spain, but that's not who I'm talking about. We're not even sure if what I'm talking about was an ethnic group.
Their languages and cultures have been lost to time, in many cases poorly recorded unfortunately. Most of what we have left of them are decaying ruins like pic related.
Samuel Butler
The entirety of pre-Islamic Mesopotamia and North Africa, pre-Slavic Balkan culture, continental Celtic peoples,
Valdensians?
If you could give a time range that would be helpful.
Jordan James
It was sometime during the Middle Ages; sorry, I don't remember anything more specific than that. I would also like to repeat that when I say "we know nothing", I mean we know nothing, other than that you could be born into the group, the group followed the same religion as everyone else, and everyone else hated them extremely. So it's not the Waldensians, who know quite a bit about and who still exist. Damn, now it's really going to bother me until I figure it out.
Jacob Thompson
You're thinking of the Cagots. I'm inclined to think they're related to the Goths, but nobody knows for sure.
Andrew Brooks
Fuck yes. Thank you.
The Cagots. They were found in southwest France and northern Spain. They were typically required to live in separate quarters in towns called cagoteries,excluded from all political and social rights, were not allowed to marry non-Cagots, enter taverns, hold cabarets, use public fountains, sell food or wine, touch food in the market, work with livestock, or enter the mill, and had to wear special dress identifying themselves as Cagots. They were not an ethnic or religious group, and spoke the same languages as everyone else in their region. We know they did have some unique cultural elements of their own, but everything about that culture has been lost to history or not written down, so now we literally only know that everyone hated them with a passion, but have no idea why or what a Cagot even was. Which is weird since this persecution lasted well into the Industrial Age and the 19th century.
One of the most fascinating unsolved mysteries of history, in my opinion.
Was also gonna say — Tocharians. East side Indo Europeans.
Jack Gray
The Basque fascinate me. They may not be extinct, but they sure do spur thinking about what Europe was like before the Indo-Aryan migrations.
Jaxon Campbell
Yes, but do we know what their language was like? What they believed? The structure of their society?
All we know is that they had small cities, wrote in logograms and liked to burn their houses down. For all intents and purposes they're gone.
Jacob Thompson
The Brittonic peoples of England
Caleb Diaz
>they had small cities
they had the largest cities in the world at the time, except modern scholars refuse to call them cities because and I quote "there is no evidence of a social contract".
William Thomas
Read The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World, a 2007 book by David W. Anthony
Seriously, the first half is pretty much the Trypillian people and literally (the actual use of literal) lists all archaeological sites of theirs and describes them.
Ayden Jackson
Sardinians have very similar customs
Angel Long
See
Nicholas Thomas
Vazimba. In all likelihood they are more a status than an actual people but I believe they are related to VaDeba/VaDebuli chronicled by the Kilwa peoples as high sea raiders, traders and bringers of the ocean craft.
Their influence is found from Maldives West to Comoros Gomera has halfies and quarters
Silbo is still used
Use google
Yeah they got fucked over big time, most people don't focus on them though because they aren't like Inca Your on the fucking internet, stop being a fucking faggot saying "huh" and Google. No, they are supposedly the oldest but by the time of they had already been over run by East Africans who brought camel and donkey and later again those people were swamped out by Semiticizing speakers
David Walker
The Thracians
Jose Carter
In Bulgaria we have the same, with the big bells and sheep fur and all that.
James Hall
They certainly had some kickass swords.
Aiden Harris
The Tartessians. Little is known about them other than they crafted gold and silver stuff and they traded with Phoenicians. Some say they were indigenous bronze age people, the only sure thing is that they had a particular and mostly unknown culture
Nathaniel Turner
They traded with The Sards during The bronze age
Jason Diaz
White culture.
Connor Sanders
No such thing has ever existed
Lincoln Morris
The Principality of theodoro and the crimean goths, a rump state of Byzantium. A couple of Crimean Goths decided WE WUZ BYZANTINES. Crimean goths allegedly existed up until the late 18th-century.
The funny thing is that they outlived Byzantium until 1475 when they were conquered by the Ottomans.
Jackson Rivera
>not harassing normies while wearing your sheep demon outfit and rattling your belts all over the place Do you even quirky pagan traditions? This is in Portugal, by the way.
Evan Green
fuck, i forgot Genoa had one of those funny little Mediterranean colonial empires
William Davis
There was a land on the modern Dalmatian coast where Slavic pirates made their home. They were the last pagans in southern Europe and their land subsequently named "Pagania" by outsiders. These Narentines were a serious threat to the peoples of the Adriatic sea and were basically the Disc 1 final boss for the Venetians.
Andrew Price
The Cham.
Every time Vietnamese sound high and mighty about their "oppression" under the Chinese, remind them that they themselves annihilated a Hindu-influenced Civilization of Austronesians south of them kek.
Brayden Reed
Nah. They were YUEZHIed, XIONGNUed, HANed, and then finally KUSHANed.
Henry Harris
That's awesome.
Tyler Barnes
Racist bigot advocating genocide = Nazi.
Charles Howard
Cagots?
Adrian Cooper
castilians are better pagans
Grayson Gutierrez
id be interested in things that havent been discovered and have no chance of being known, really ramps up em gears
Julian Torres
Teotihuacan. We still don't even know their ethnicity or which language they spoke.
Evan Martin
dey wuz black cuz
Anthony Jenkins
There are Basques in both Spain and France.
Daniel Roberts
>mfw there are nogs who would unironically believe that
Going a bit off topic but whats with coons and all this historical revisionism lately?
Luis Wright
Arabization of the maghreb is a meme, your average arab speaking maghrebi has roughly the same dna than your average berber speaking maghrebi.
They're just getting to the "deluded racial lionization" stage of identity. White people were there too at one time, the black identity in the US is newer in its current form.
Easton Martinez
White people.
Eli Rodriguez
Onas or selknam. These creepy fucks are cosplaying in Hell now, all it is left is some mestiza whos mother was a pure blood who married a basque. Kinda sad
Jacob Reyes
Incredible
Left looks like Pikachu
They look like Pokemons, never seen native customs so original
No I get where all those weird "Alien like" cave paintings came from
Jeremiah Sanchez
>whites are a race
American education
Kevin Cox
Ainus are still around and enjoy a niche popularity like a cultural curiosity. But, most Ainus or partial Ainus hide their ethnicity because Yamato Japanese are so racist.
A better Japanese example might be the Emishi.
Colton Flores
>A better Japanese example might be the Emishi. Why are people on here so retarded?
Liam Edwards
CAN YOU FUCK OFF WITH RACE
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST I SWEAR EVERYTHING NOWADAYS IS "HURRR THEY WERE WHITE PPL WE ARE WHITE PPL LOL XDXDXD" AND "NO WE WUZ KINGS DEY BLACK PEOPLE LOLOLOL" LIKE FUCK OFF AND ROT IN A HOLE YA SHITBRAINED WANKER WHERE'S THE LOVE FOR REAL ANTHROPOLOGY
FUCK AMERICA AND EVERYONE THAT HAS EVER LIVED OR IS LIVING IN IT FOR CREATING THIS ABHORRENT FUCKING RACE MEME
Josiah Hernandez
Wow, thanks, this is interesting as hell.
Grayson Williams
Dumb frogposters.
Henry Bailey
This user appears to be a member of the Kekian-Amphibid race.
Xavier Cox
They didn't have leprosy?
Gabriel Price
lmao sperg
Brandon Brown
Why the Gauls of course
Hunter Murphy
>Where did they come from? Africa
John Barnes
The jews made the race meme too
Matthew Edwards
I was about to post them, then i realised op did it, before the spaniards C O L O N I S E D them, they supposedly had green eyes, the berbers have definately been there longer than the indo europeons have been in europe
Brandon Foster
The picts had their own culture unique to others in the area, they were slightly stouter and shorter than other scots, also had a higher concentration of green eyes and red hair, no one knows where they came from or if they had just been there, and of course they painted themselves blue and scared the piss out of the romans
Asher Young
The Karankawa indians, the best account we have of them is from Cabeza de Vaca who shipwrecked with them, they were 6ft+ unlike the spainlets Some of their ancestors are still alive, but they are just different shades of black white and spic
>Another possible explanation of their name Chretiens or Christianos is to be found in the fact that in medieval times all lepers were known as pauperes Christi, and that, whether Visigoths or not, these Cagots were affected in the Middle Ages with a particular form of leprosy or a condition resembling it, such as psoriasis. Thus would arise the confusion between Christians and Cretins.[3] However, early edicts apparently refer to lepers and Cagots as different categories of undesirables.[7] By 1593 the distinction was explicit. The Parlement of Bordeaux repeated customary prohibitions against them but added when they are lepers, if there still are any, they must carry 'clicquettes'.[9] >In a study in 1683, doctors examined the Cagots and found them no different from normal citizens. Notably, they did not actually suffer from leprosy or any other disease that would justify their exclusion from society.
You mean the cagots? They fit the bill, considered we know they lived among lepers and had separate sides of the church, but not why it was so.
Anthony Fisher
He means the culture of Berbers has largely been replaced by Arabic culture. I don't think anyone seriously thinks Berbers actually got ARABED.
Asher Phillips
>Agotes, Pasiegos, Maragatos, Vaqueiros de Alzada...
ayy España
Austin Young
My grandmother's native language was Yiddish, which is now somewhat endangered. Jews are still around though.
Dominic King
Skara Brae or "Greater Ireland" could be interesting
Bentley Morris
Even if it stopped existing it wouldnt be "lost" as we still would have lots of records on it, and the intact language
David Gomez
>Bohemians >Sardinians >North African Berbers
Henry Bailey
>the future Roman will be of mixed race. >t. Kalergix
Oliver Martinez
the first first inhabitants of northeastern canada. theyre so dead that even the succeeding paleoeskimo and beothuk populations that replaced them went fully extinct thousands of years later when europeans and other groups moved in