I've recently visited Kiev and saw this memorial. I've spoken to people that deny the Holodomor & the food shortages and defend the slaughter of the kulaks.
Why do they believe this? Where do they get their information from? And have you ever debated somebody like that?
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>I've spoken to people that deny the Holodomor
You did not.
I do not think anyone denies this, but perhaps kulaks should not have hoarded grain during a famine. It was simply proper punishment and to say that they were innocent victims is very dubious.
>Why do they believe this?
The same reason people deny genocides: it makes their ethnic group or ideology look bad.
>Where do they get their information from?
Communist propaganda. Not even meming.
>And have you ever debated somebody like that?
They pop up on Veeky Forums all the time.
They got brainwashed by Stalin/communists.
Not face to face, I admit, but I've seen their posts on various facebook groups. The point that they exist and believe this still stands.
> kulaks should not have hoarded grain during a famine
I admit I have not heard this before. I knew famine struck the USSR only AFTER the imprisonment of the kulaks and that they lost their property just like everybody else - bankers, factory owners etc. Could you please elaborate on the accusations brought upon them?
There is literally no proof of Holodomor being "ordered by Stalin", Soviet government or anyone else. Famines were common in Russia every 10-15 years due to weather problems. Kulaks just made it worse.
>people still believe Goebbels' little Ukrainian tale
Sad!
The general consensus is that the Holodomor was Yagoda's doing, the head of the NKVD at the time.
>kulaks just made it worse
Please elaborate.
>Not face to face, I admit, but I've seen their posts on various facebook groups. The point that they exist and believe this still stands.
You can see small groups of people on facebook claiming practically everything possible. Why does this particular one triggers you so much?