Although she fled, Mary Turner was captured at noon on May 19...

t. beady-eyed anglo

You're infringing upon my state's rights reeeeee

Sherman thread?
Sherman thread.

We should have just let them have their independence.

America would be so much better off without the votes of these uneducated savages and their Negroes corrupting the purity of the democratic process. Plus, so complete is their dependence on entitlement programs that every one of the former Confederate states represents a net loss in terms of tax dollars compared to federal expenditures.

Who cares about long dead niggers?

This is a type of covert porn for white people.

DO IT AGAIN

>reiver spawn and cavalier whore-sons
>white

pictured is a white man sir.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_draft_riots
Leave this board you historically inept retards.

>a single race riot is worse than two hundred years of chattel slavery and a hundred years of mob violence and political repression

Nice whataboutism.

The one user isn't entirely wrong about Southerners being Scotch-Irish, although it would be more accurate to include regular Irish and Scots in it. The South was settled mostly by Celts.

>yfw you realize the Grand Army of the Republic was mostly (continental) German and Gaelic.

What are you talking about?
The picture, the graphic description, whites get off on this display of white dominance and brutality but do it under the guise of concern and empathy so it is passable.

It would be like me making a thread for pic related to honor the white soldiers killed in Somalia.

>regular Irish

aside from New Orleans the regular Irish most immigrated to the North.

Southerners are mostly larper Celts. They mostly descend from low-land scots and the dregs of England. Near totally Anglo-saxon.

>tbf some highlanders were transported to the Carolina and Georgia, but they didn't make up the majority of the population and many of them immigrated further West.

you fucking idiot. if all whites loved slavery and lynching then we'd still have slaves and lynching.

the civil war was largely a clash between different white ethnic groups, a clash that still somewhat continues today.

This is incorrect. Past and present research into the settlement of the southern states concluded a plurality of Celtic peoples. The Irish settlement you're thinking of the recent wave just before and during the ACW.

It was the northern states that had a greater percentage of Anglo-Saxon settlers.

>took four years to defeat transplanted Scotsmen they outnumbered three-to-one

makes sense

thumbnail looks like a sandperson from star wars

Every single Yankee city that is currently uninhabitable due to negro freedmen is just retribution.

you're thinking of pakistanis

Why do you fuckers constantly bitch about the evils of American slavery when literally hundreds of prominent successful civilizations and cultures practiced it, and yet they never get their name dragged through the dirt and spit on by bleeding heart shit heads like you?

>whataboutism

Slavery still exists, and execution of blacks at higher rates still exists via the prison system. Whites on the whole are eternally jealous of black Americans, and can't stop thinking about them. The union would not have won the civil war without black soldiers.

>bleeding heart shit heads
So if you don't like slavery you're a liberal now?

WE WUZ SOLDIURRS AN SHIET

you're confusing Scotch-Irish and Gaelic. they're different peoples with a history of extreme animosity.

the Scotch-Irish are the descendants lowland Scots and border English, very Anglo-Saxon.

while initially New England did see large numbers of Anglo immigration they mixed early on with Dutch, Swedish and even French or Highland Scots Canadian populations. Starting in the 1830s huge number of Germans, (Gaelic) Irish and other Europeans began immigrating in their tens of millions to the North.

by the time of the Civil War the North had a much larger Gaelic population than the South. (Based Cleburne aside that is)

We were,and still are. Try to keep your insecurities in check.

That's cuz they commit far more crimes than whites
>an actual WEWUZ post on Veeky Forums
Wew

What do you think about the Romans, Greeks, Celts, Norse, Arabs, Chinese, Russians and Spanish?
Should their societies and accomplishments be seen as evil because they practiced and tolerated slavery at one point or another?
There's nothing special about American slavery in the South except for the fact that it was one of the last areas in the West to still practice it.

>war on drugs.

It is far more complicated than that. The CIA actively sought to undermine their communities starting in the Vietnam era. Technically they can make anything a crime.

>yet they never get their name dragged through the dirt and spit on by bleeding heart shit heads like you?
Because:
1. Derailment. This thread is about slavery in the South, a topic of discussion (and violence) literally continuing today because of who and what it continues to affect. If you want to talk about slavery in another time period, go ahead and make one, you can talk about it all you want.
2. Relevancy. Those other civilizations and cultures have either already been dragged/shit on, or are too ancient to be relevant to the modern discussion of slavery today and the historic context of the Civil War. Again, if you want to make a thread discussing slavery in antiquity/the Middle Ages, or slavery/exploitation during the Colonial era, or even the slavery persisting today, go ahead.

>dead nigger
who cares

>Slavery still exists, and execution of blacks at higher rates still exists via the prison system.

please light yourself on fire. the States without the death-penalty are the whitest in the country (also ALL states that were loyal to the Union). meanwhile the States that use it the most often are old Confederate states or franchises of the South (Oklahoma).

as to your second point, while the performance of many black regiments was heroic during the ACW they represented less than 10% (178,000/2,000,000) of the troops who defended the Republic.

meanwhile German-Americans and Irish-Catholics represented at least 50% of the Union Army. which is to say with either of those groups the slaves would not have been freed.

basically African-Americans should celebrate Oktoberfest.

Not him but you're projecting. Very few but the most radical see slavery as indication that a nation is entirely evil. It is a black mark on American history, not proof that it is evil.

This. Everyone claims that blacks are inherently more violent without bothering to examine it further than "they're subhuman". Even after slavery ended the government had been actively undermining black people from the get go. The idea that black people finally getting the right to vote would magically fix everything is a pipe dream. The tremendous economic and political gap between them and whites isn't something that just erodes overnight. It's especially true given that poverty continues from generation to generation. Look no further than poor whites. Very few of them leave the shackles of poverty, much like black Americans.

This

>tinfoil hat tier conspiracy theory
Yeah yeah, always someone else's fault. Don't you ever get tired of the whole perpetual victim routine?

*without either of those groups.

oh yeah they weren't even subtle about it.

also they really didn't go after the Panthers until the BPs began reaching out to rural white labor unions. that scared the shit out of the CIA.

well said...would drink beer with.

Canada is more inbred than the south.

>Whites on the whole are eternally jealous of black Americans

I've really never checked on the history of the black panthers. Weren't the founded as a sort of community militia so that black communities could police itself given that cops in that era were notorious for brutality towards black people?

yep...they started in Oakland, CA as a black militia and community support group. they also ran service projects like a breakfast program for poor kids.

it wasn't a perfect organization, many joined for personal gain but they're a pretty fascinating movement.

looks like the Johnnies have fled the thread...who wants to found a land-grant college?

Because none of those states still exist you retard

Correct. Though they were a black org they worked a lot with white leftist groups as well.

Not the guy you're talking to but you're retarded. Brazil, to name one country, imported millions of slaves.

When one is given a life sentence, or close to it, he is essentially murdered albeit in a purgatory state.

Working for $10 per hour or less in 2017 is functional slavery. Also child support represents a form of modern slavery.

>everything I dislike can be called slavery because I dislike it
Wow, being exposed to your opinions is functional slavery. Quit oppressing me with your retardation.

>Also child support represents a form of modern slavery.

Sounds like you're the insecure one, fucko.

Most southerners are of Scottish descent. Their's is a savage and primitive mind that hasn't truly gone away since the time of the Romans, but only been suppressed by superior French rulers. When left to its own devices, as in the South, it quickly reverts to savagery.

why do black panthers have the confederate flag

t. thomas sowell

I'm assuming it's some sort of reference more to the rebellious act of the confederacy and less the actual beliefs of it.

Because the confederate flag is the symbol of the South and literally no one had any issue with it before recent hate-campaigns against it and other Southern symbols (such as statues of great historical figures).

>death penalty
What? He was talking about the prison system. Thousands die behind bars every year, while annual executions number in the dozens.

>That one time white people in Wilmington were eternally butthurt by prospering political and economic community of blacks and proceeded to overthrow the local government and burn large portions of the city.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_insurrection_of_1898

Don't forget Tulsa. They were fucking bombing people.

Reminded me of something I saw in another thread.

newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-tragic-forgotten-history-of-black-military-veterans

>Drawing on small-town newspaper and court archives, along with interviews of local historians and victims’ descendants across the South, “Lynching in America” tallied four thousand and seventy-five lynchings, at least eight hundred more than any previous count. The new report, “Lynching in America: Targeting Black Veterans,” concludes that, during the same period, “no one was more at risk of experiencing violence and targeted racial terror than black veterans.” The susceptibility of black ex-soldiers to extrajudicial murder and assault has long been recognized by historians, but the topic has never received such comprehensive standalone treatment.

Some choice quotes:

In a speech on the Senate floor in 1917, Mississippi Senator James K. Vardaman warned that the return of black veterans to the South would “inevitably lead to disaster.” Once you “impress the negro with the fact that he is defending the flag” and “inflate his untutored soul with military airs,” Vardaman cautioned, it was a short step to the conclusion that “his political rights must be respected.”
[...]
Whites speculated that, while stationed in Europe, black soldiers had enjoyed wartime liaisons with white French women, increasing their lust—which, in the white imagination, was already dangerously high—for sex with white American women. Many black veterans were denied the benefits and disability pay they’d been promised. In the first summer after the war, known as the Red Summer, anti-black riots erupted in more than twenty American cities, including Houston, Chicago, and Washington, D.C. “This is the right time to show them what will and what will not be permitted, and thus save them much trouble in the future,” one Louisiana newspaper opined, in an editorial titled “Nip It In the Bud.”

As E.J.I. staff examined these attacks in detail, they noticed that, often, the only provocation was a black man’s insistence on wearing his uniform in public. “It’s really shocking,” Stevenson said. “Just the sight of a black soldier, just the suggestion that he might take on that empowered, adult, mature identity—that could get him killed.”

[...]
After WWII, multiple veterans were attacked almost immediately, often by drivers or fellow-passengers on the buses and trains transporting them back to their homes. Many more soon realized that the G.I. Bill had been constructed in such a way that most of its benefits—including mortgage support, college tuition, and business loans—could be denied to them. Racial violence spiked.

Also:
Initially, these men were barred from combat, and instead assigned to service duties such as cleaning white officers’ quarters and latrines. Just as in the Civil War, only mounting casualties convinced the generals to allow black soldiers the privilege of risking their lives on the front line. And just as in the First World War, a vast chasm quickly sprang up between wartime rhetoric and wartime reality. Black soldiers stationed at military bases in the segregated South were forbidden from eating in restaurants that opened their doors to German prisoners of war.

even that being the case of the old rebel states have the highest incarceration rates.

>white people going on a riot attacking all black because a single black guy committed a crime
Oh how the tables have turned.

The thing is that based on evidence the guy didn't actually do it. The alleged victim even didn't press charges and even the cops didn't think he did anything.

Compare that to the Fergueson. The black dude was actually shot and killed. While the evidence clearly pointed to the cop being innocent that still doesn't change the fact that the dude literally died.

I can't really see any point where the tables have turned. Besides a few instances of insurgency blacks have done far less mob attacks on white communities than vice versa.

This. The CSA flag was always a symbol of southern culture and identity, as well as rebellion, for black and white. Just like the Eureka Flag for Aussies. In the (modern, I hope it goes without saying) South black and white live in poverty side by side, and race relations are better than in the North. Look at how few race riots there's been in the south vs the north lately: Milwaukee, Baltimore, Ferguson, Flatbush NY, that bullshit at Evergreen. I can only think of Charlotte for the South. You'll sanctimoniously lecture us about Jim Crow but then turn around and redline black people when they start immigrating north.

It's your fucking cancerous unwanted Yankee identity politics that fucked everything up, no one gave a shit about the flag or the monuments until that idiot shot up the church and suddenly a "national conversation" began. And, oh no, blacks and whites hate each other now.

Fuck you.

>Because the confederate flag is the symbol of the South and literally no one had any issue with it before recent hate-campaigns against it

I personally know at least three black families who lived in Louisiana in the 90s and early 2000s who would say you're wrong. One of them are my cousins.

>Louisiana
AKA transplant city.

>Besides a few instances of insurgency blacks have done far less mob attacks on white communities than vice versa.
lol

Who the fuck would willingly transplant to Louisiana?

It's not whataboutism you dumb faggot, he's pointing out that Northerners hated niggers too. SJW cucks who jerk off about Sherman, the Union, and how morally inferior the South was are just LARPing faggots, who confuse the brainswashing they recieve in 5th grade social studies with actual history.

I mean I can think of some riots, such as the Rodney King incident but it's still not the same as what was done in the past.

Anyone who's ancestors weren't in America by the time of the Revolution shouldn't even be allowed to express an opinion desu.

which of those states were founded on the basis of "All men are created equal"?

Slavery is morally inferior to segregation.

The South was morally inferior to the North.

You people go "MUH FEELINGS" more than a post-menopausal woman.

>Slavery is morally inferior to segregation.
Educate yourself shitlord.
It's 2017 the age of moral relativism, there is no morally inferior or superior. You should stop being such a bigot and respect the vibrant culture and traditions of the Southern American states.

Which of those states fought a bloody civil war that culminated in the emancipation of their eternally ungrateful niggers?

We've had this thread

The naturalization act of 1790 says only whites can be American citizens.

>t. ranjeev

I'm not confusing them, I've outright told you large numbers of Scots and Irish also settled the South. More than in the North.

And no matter how much you want to call them Anglo-Saxon, the Scotch-Irish (Ulster Scots, you dumb cunt) aren't.

Fucking Veeky Forums doesn't know shit.

>equating Roman slavery with slavery in the U.S.

pls

washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/12/confederate-symbols-largely-disappeared-after-the-civil-war-the-fight-against-civil-rights-brought-them-back/?utm_term=.80d456df11a9

Do you have a source for that assertion, friend?