So who has a better claim on Alexander? Greeks or Macedonians? I mean it was the Macedonian empire

The Greeks.
Modern day Macedonians (FYROM) are the most annoying and shameless wewuzzing LARPers out there.

Ancient Macedonians identified as Macedonian, not Greek. Greeks hated Macedonians because they were jealous, and now they try to rewrite the history.

>Again Ancient Greeks considered Ancient Macedonians inferior, lower class, barbarians and so forth, they never saw Macedonians as Greeks and that is Greece Achilles heel.
I wish this fucking meme would end, the Greeks called other Greeks barbarians if they were at war with them. Reminder that the Spartans called the Athenians barbarians during the Peloponnesian war

>856 AC - Bulgaria occupies over 90% of what is today Macedonia
That region was not in any way what was considered Macedonia back then, your argument falls flat there

>Ancient Macedonians identified as Macedonian, not Greek

this

No one cares about ethnicities and backgrounds, the true successor was Ptolomey because he wasn't a fucking moron like the rest of em

>youtube.com/watch?v=2AdgCe0cf9g

HAHAHAHA GREEKS BTFO

>Before
Greeks hated the fuck out of the Macedonians, Epirotes, and Thracians, and called them Barbarians.
>Now.
Greeks are obsessed about calling Macedonians, Thracians, and Epirotes Greek.

Really joggins the noggins.

Greeks getting seriously BTFO in this thread, can they ever recover?

The reason Greeks are so scared of modern-day ethnic Macedonians is because they fear them claiming the Macedonian region of Greece. They fear Macedonia because they know they have no real claim on the Macedonian region of Greece so they use the fact that since it's currently under Greek jurisdiction to say that ancient Macedonians were Greek.

this

Modern day "Macedonia" is just a bunch of Albanians LARPing as Greeks and is north of the actual historical Macedonia.

they are Bulgarians who have been held by Serbians for too long and now are experiencing an identity crisis

Boy, the aggregation of similar tribes and city-states into a single nation sure is a hard concept to get your head around!

Well seeing that modern Macedonians are just ethnic Bulgarians it would rule them out completely.

The strongest.

You fucked up your own argument you retard.
This is proof that Alexander is Greek and the show is just wrong.

> He was Macedonian, he was born in Pella

Pella is greek...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pella

It's like saying Leonidas wasn't Greek, he was Spartan, because he was born in Sparta.

>Macedonians
>Macedonian empire

How do Greeks possibly think they would have a better claim?

>For about 3400 years there were Greek people but not a unified Greek kingdom or Republic of any kind. Greeks weren't called Greeks because of the country they came from but the region.
Wasn't there a situation where "Hellenic" soldiers arrived on one of the "Greek" island taken from Ottomans, and after asking some kids why they look at them with such curiosity, they learned that the people of this island have never seen "Hellenes" and consider themselves "Roman"?

They are delusional

>byzantium empire emerges

The ancient Macedonian ethnicity doesn't exist anymore, and the majority of the kingdom's lands are inside the borders of modern Greece. The ancient Macedonians were also much closer to Hellenic culturally than to any of the shit-eating barbar tribes that bordered them, much less any tree-fucking slavs that arrived in the region 800 years later.

Persia.

Are you actually retarded?

>t. niko nikolov

His empire was.

How the fuck will Greeks ever recover?

The Slavs, modern Macedonians, were still hanging around in Belarus at this point, though. You can make the argument he wasn't Greek (it'd still be bs) but you really can't argue he was a modern Fyromian.

There is literally no such thing as Slavic blood. Slav is just a language. Sure, the Slavs brought language to the Macedonians, but the Macedonians were still always who they have always been.

>Sure, the Slavs brought language to the Macedonians, but the Macedonians were still always who they have always been.

They've always "been" the ancient Hellenistic Macedonian people, a people with an entirely different language and culture with whom they share no meaningful connection beyond the flukes of genetics?

don't forget Amphipolis, Alexander's tomb is also in Greece

This, here is a map of Macedon during the 4th century BC. Almost all of it, including Alexander's birthplace is located in modern Greece.
Alexander the Great and his kingdom may not have been fully Greek, but they we're a hell of a lot more Greek than the ancestors of Modern Macedonians living out of the boundaries of the ancient kingdom

FYROM occupies what was considered as Paeonia during the Ancient times, sure there was a Greek tribe there, but they weren't called "Macedonians"
Macedonians and Epirotes were the leftover Dorians from the Dorian invasion and most likely had a Dorian Greek dialect, albeit slightly different
Alexander's dynasty was 100% Greek, since it came from Argos and he was half Molossian, another Greek tribe from Epirus through his mother, Olympias
The only reason FYROM is considered as Macedonia is because of the Ottomans and lazy western contemporaries

Alexander Was fucking greek he was from the argead dynasty claiming origins in southern greece!

No. Just stop. Macedonians in the FYROM are not in any way the same people as those who dwelled in Macedon at the time. The argument is not whether Alexander was a greek or a Modern Macedonian, it is, and always had been, whether he was an ancient Macedonian of greek descent. Alexander's Macedon has precisely nothing but a name and a vague geographical similarity with modern Macedon. Stop kidding yourselves.

This, regardless of what you think of the Makedonians themselves, Alexander and his family came from Argos. Do these Bulgarian LARPers think Argos was "Slavic"?

Yes, despite clear, obvious, undisprovable evidence that he was Greek.

>Macedonians aren't Slavs
>speak south Slavic language

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