Has anyone here ever been to a genuine roman themed festival, like medieval fairs?
I have been to Carnuntum last saturday and had a blast. I will dump any pictures I made and comment them, although I have to make a disclaimer: they are sometimes potato quality and I forgot to photograph everything because I became piss drunk towards the end.
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These are reenactors that LARP the Legio XV Apollinaris. The Legion was stationed in the Fort Carnuntum and later frontier town for most of the time. Most of the reenactors were germans who rejoyced in the prospect of being fascists again. The others were hungarians and real bros. Some hungarians also larped as Dacians and were just drunk all the time. When you wanted to take pictures with them, they would give you home made booze.
The free range museum Carnuntum contains a fully reconstructed roman thermae (public bath), a villa as well as several arceological digs.
Awesome stuff but it is only really worth visiting when the roman festival is being held. Otherwise it is really boring.
Feel free to ask any questions you might have. I'll try to answer them.
Matthew Torres
This is the plan of the area. There are 2 other venues that you can visit: The Amphitheatre and the Museum Carnuntinum. The former are the ruins of a large Gladiatorial arena and they someqhat built a shoddy arena on the top of the ruins. A small band of reenactors performed as Gladiators this year.
The Museum Carnuntinum is a small venue and basically just showcases the shit the archeologists dug up during the last 100 years. Emperor Franz Joseph II. initiated the Carnuntum Movement since he was a big Romaboo and there have been fantastic finds since then. I also learned why people had Dig shaped talismans with wings: Apparently they were the same shitty joke we make today: See this gaius? We found a new dank meme: dicks with wings!
Isaiah Nelson
Monitoring this thread.
Anthony Bell
This a scale model of what the forntier Town and the Legionaryfort might have looked like at it's height. Carnuntum had up to 55.000 inhabitants during the high imperial period and was an important waystation of the amber trade route to rome. Many important people either visited this place or even spent long years here. Marcus Aurelis at least spent 2 years here and Septimus Severus was proclaimed emperor in Carnuntum.
David Adams
Why oh why did I have to be born in rootless cosmopolitan NYC, and not someplace that actually appreciates history?
Lincoln Adams
any qts?
Josiah Howard
Tell me more about these winged dick talismans as I am unfamiliar with them.
Jayden Rogers
This is the Signum of a Legion. It is reconstructed and guide told me that the Curator went through 10 different versions before they got the order of the gods right: Jupiter on top(not in the picture) then The Legion number, then you have the emperor, Minerva and finally Mars.
In the same tract you also saw some excavated roman tomb stones. Awesome shit. One rich guy built a whole, huge ass crypt for his slave. Most of the graves were found by farmes through the ages since the romans never built tombs inside a city.
Aiden Perry
>ywn be a Roman official designing a comfy provincial villa with your architects
Cooper Butler
See pic related. Many historians theorise that the Talisman thing started as simple joke and got out of hand once it circulated through the Legions. Like every stupid religion of the time, they also carried every stupid joke/meme of the time.
Ryan Butler
maybe you could larp as a 1920's Jew bootlegger or part of a 1980's central park wolfpack
Nathan James
There was a show of roman cavalry but I missed it. I only saw some smaller breeds of horses. The owners a 3 guys who like to larp as romans and specifically bought smaller breeds to make sure they looked like the historical part. Horses were very small in antiquity compared to today.
Christopher Gutierrez
There were also a multitude of vendors. I only managed to photograph one, because frankly, only this old lady was worth it. Like any other medieval fair, they sold shit like necklaces and genuine bone shit.
This vendor sold roasted nuts. She used the recipes described by Apicius book from the 1st century AD.
Dominic Taylor
The first event of they day was a mock fight between the Roman Legions (3 reenactor groups. 2 from germany and 1 from Hungary) and the Dacians (all from Hungary). The fight went badly for the romans and they lost round one. I missed round 2 but the romans won round 2. I will post now the other still images of this heroic defeat. Note how the romans use a mixture of Chain (Lorica Hamata) and Lamellar (Lorica Segmentata) Armor. The latter was only worn by more experienced and wealthy Soldiers. Your inital kit as Legionary was funded by the state/general on a loan. You had to pay it all back in full. Sometimes raw recruits went the first year with meagre/ no pay and did the odd jobs around camp to scrape by. Being a roman Soldier only really made you money when you stopped being an FNG. Nobody knows if the roman soldiers had a specific term for FNG.
Charles Russell
The roman Legions had a multitude of different roles/ positions. You had specific hunters, scribes, engineers and other Jobs that needed to be done by the Soldiers in your collunm. The smalles unit of Soldiers was the contrabinium. These men of the same Squad/contrabinium had one junior centurion as commander, shared a tent and fullfilled a specific role in their cohort.
Matthew Carter
The life of a Legionary was really harsh and even the smallest offence was punished with severity. Each Legion was able to make camp every night, erect a defensible perimeter and continue marching the next day. After the Marian reforms the roman army had a smaller baggage train than contemporary armies: The Soldiers carried many of the essential items with them and were nicknamed: Marian Mules.
Tyler Wood
The things often found on a baggage train: Slaves, spare parts for weapons (the Pilum had 3 different parts and were used by the Legions like Grenades today. Each part was stored seperately and was used to refurbish spent/ damaged spears), camp followers, non essential food, spare wood and spare horses. There was more but I only mentioned the things the guide specifically recounted.
Ryder Reyes
Like I mentioned, the Dacians won round 1. There was another mock fight later in the day but I was visiting the Gladiators so I missed round 2. Rome won round 2.
The Dacian reenactors were nice people. They only spoke hungarian and allowed to pose for a picture while they dressed you in Dacian garb. I held a small Falx. After the ordeal I was offered booze by the Dacians. I think it was home made schnaps.
Matthew Hill
Next I visitied the roman camp. It was very tidy and featured the top of the line weaponry. The thing on the table is a Manuballista. I was mainly used in Sieges to knock out enemy Vehicle crews and supress enemies so the Soldiers could advance safely. A projectile from this machine could penetrate chainmail from a distance up to 300 meters. It is basically handheld scorpion.
Jayden Stewart
Here another shot from the camps. White tents were for people from a higher status. Equites, People of note or more experienced Soldiers. Brown tents were the rank and file Soldiers.
Brody Martin
The next thing I saw were 3 women from italy performing a a roman dance. The dance was nice, the women were ugly.
Daniel Flores
After that I visitied the Villa Urbana. The large reconstructed House in the centre of the complex. it houses common rooms, a public bath and several craft rooms.
Asher Jackson
To ensure that a Villa was always the right temperature, a hollow floor was employed. Thorugh ovens heat was poured beneath the floor and kept the House and the bath warm during all seasons.
Evan Perez
This is the first section of the bath. Here moderately warm water was kept in a small pool.
Aaron Bennett
In this room guests would rest from their bath and prepare for the second, far hotter bath.
Nathan Kelly
This is the final room in the thermae. The decor is hand drawn and it took the curators 1 whole year to get every detail right.
The Villa Urbana also had reconstructed graffiti. Sadly I forgot to take a picture but the most funny was: 'Gaius, I will stab you in the dick if you lose the next fight.' The text was written next to crudely drawn Gladiators.
Dylan Diaz
The next few rooms were the residence of a smaller offical. The Governor's palace is still an archeological dig and is presumed to be double the size of the Villa Urbana. I took the pictures near the end of the festival so there are no more pestering bystanders running into my Photographs.
Easton Cook
The common room. For offical meals with guests/ clients of the magistrate.
David Roberts
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Oliver Hall
There was also a small room in the Villa were you could drink genuine roman herb wine(mulsum) and eat roman bread. I drank too much of the former and the latter was flour mixed with water and herbs. The bread was then fried in a pan and not baked.
Hunter Lopez
The most common roman meal was pulsum. A flour stew mixed with vegetables and sometimes meat. Romans rarely ate meat and poured garrum, a fish sauce, over everything like ketchup.
Alexander Wright
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Dylan Jenkins
Any questions so far?
Tyler Lee
This is a forge/ market stand that belonged to guy named Lucius. He was tailor/ cloth peddler in carnuntum. His house was also reconstructed as well as his herb garden.
Christian Moore
This is Lucius' house. There was guy in there Larping as his slave. He explained his joba, told general tales about Slavery and so on. Most romans did not own a slave. The middle class romans owned one, maybe two. The richer ones had a staff of Slaves and officials had state owned slaves. The Super rich owned Armies of slaves that worked fields in Egypt/ Italy as well as mines in Dacia, Illyria and Spain.
Even if a slave was freed by his master, he was still the clinet of his former master. That client/patron relationship was very important in roman society and was usually followed to the letter until the collapse of the western empire.
Aiden Collins
A small plaque that contains some history of Carnuntum.
Hunter Martin
Next I watched the Gladiators. The fights were not premeditated but every reenactor used only wooden weapons. (duh) There were also no fatalities since killing Gladiators was extra costly. Most Hosts of games only rented Gladiators from a school and had to pay a hefty fine if one of the Gladiators bit the dust. It was far cehaper to slaughter criminals and christians in the arena.
Alexander Ramirez
There were several pairs. All fights were very tame and very boring. The commentator was also a woman who had no gift for showmanshit and ruined a potentially good atmosphere with borish commentary. The only good fight were the two Gladiatrices. Unlike the men, who fought rather methodically and restrained, the two women whacked at each other, cursed and committed several fouls. Yes, to ancient romans Gladiator fights were serious business and they had their own sperg crowd that were fanatic fans. Similar to D&D nerds today.
Michael Nguyen
Note the lictors who were in the collumn. Every event in rome had an offical consult the Auspices if the gods were pleased with the proceedings.
Ethan Perry
This is the front of the Museum. At this point I was very drunk. I forgot to take fotographs from the exhibition. It was great though. Definitely check it out if you ever make it there.
Blake Hernandez
Here you see 3 roman officialls again consulting the Auspices. The final event for the day was the payment to the Soldiers. Even this event needed sanction by the gods. The old prayers were often in a crude and impossible latin and each prayer had to be redone if it was interrupted or the speaker screwed up. Basically if you were in the crowd and started yelling something, the Guy performing the ceremony had to start over.
Every adult roman male could perform a religious ceremony. You had to do several things: Cloak your head, because you can never speak uncloaked to the gods. Wear a toga. Sacrifice an acceptable offering in a brazier. Walk several times around the brazier and make sure all evil spirits are gone. Consult the Auspices. You look through a crude twig, like a bishop's cane, in the sky for birds. If you see birds in your selected parts of the sky, the gods like you and proceed. Say the prayers and don't fuck up. You're done.
Overly complicated and the romans took this procedures very very seriously.
Ayden Brown
That's all folks! I hope you enjoy my dump. There will be a late antiquity festival later this year. If I visit it, I will dump pictures here again.
Liam Sanders
No and i never will. All the fun is in europe
Christian Walker
comfy
Logan Gomez
Well looks like I have a solid reason to visit Austria now.
Kayden Lewis
The closest I've ever been to a Medieval reenactment was Pennsic because I live 40 minutes south of the site in Pittsburgh, but the SCA feels more like a subculture than a reeinactment community. I'd love to go to some of the Viking fairs in Europe someday though.
Jordan Brown
Sounds like a fun day out
Lucas Butler
is there any of this shit going on in Europe in mid october to mid december? It doesn't necessarily need to be Roman, really any sort of historical fair. I'm going travelling and wouldn't mind paying a good one a visit.
Brayden Cruz
>mid october to mid december There are dime a dozen Medieval fairs in Europe the whole year. The main season is from june to Early October. beware though, most of these fairs are just rip offs aimed at families with little kids.
Specifically for you I can only recommend the Medieval Christmas Market in Vienna. It is held on the grounds of the Austrian Military Museum. You can visit the market on Dec. 1st to Dec 3rd this year. Other than that better visit Europe in the summer. The good ones are all in June or July.
Jonathan Perry
>There will be a late antiquity festival later this year. If I visit it, I will dump pictures here again.
Fucking do it. Late Antiquity is far more interesting to me.