Transitioning from males to females is natural

Look at my pic. In a society of free sexuality. There are basically 3 types of people. Chads, Stacys and Beta males. The amount of women not getting laid is really low and can therefore be ignored as it can be assumed that they'll probably find mates among the top beta males.

However half men (the beta males) aren't reproducing because women don't want them. Their fate is to die alone without reproducing.
If I'm not wrong there's usually two roles in a family. The role of the man and the role of the woman.

So these beta males have to find a new role because women are no longer going to accept them as men. Since they're submissive, delicate and small, they've more in common with women than men. That's why their new role in society can be as women.

That's why beta males are transitioning into women and more and more are becoming traps and fembois. This is all a reaction to this isn't it?

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It very well could be. As a dominant alpha male, I welcome it with open arms.

This is all just speculation. I'm discussing this because this board says humanities. And I thought you guys were into that artsy society development shit.

really made me think

This is all bullshit. And humanities does actually involve proving you have factual bases for your grand assumptions. Not to mention your argument isn't even internally consistent. Is the drive caused from a lack of reproduction or a lack of getting laid? In a world with reliable birth control, the two are not the same thing. How do you know the "amount of women not getting laid is really low" and not worth considering? What makes you think that society is becoming more 'haremized'?

it's crazy enough it might work

>In a world with reliable birth control, the two are not the same thing.
Most people born in the west are because the birth control didn't work. I'm assuming this though. I think it's a fair assumption. The number of planned pregnancies is probably low.

How do you know the "amount of women not getting laid is really low" and not worth considering?
Because no matter how ugly a girl is, she can always get laid with minimal effort. Chances are she'll get pregnant because she's no used to casual sex and then choose to keep the baby.

What makes you think that society is becoming more 'haremized'?
I know for a fact that all the alpha guys get laid the most. You'd be stupid if you don't realize that.

I just think everything I said was against your personal agenda. You don't want sexual freedom to be cause of gender desphoria

>Most people born in the west are because the birth control didn't work.
Well, you'd be wrong.
cnn.com/2016/03/02/health/unintended-pregnancy-rate/index.html
Less than half of pregnancies are unplanned in the U.S. And 42% of THOSE are aborted.

>Because no matter how ugly a girl is, she can always get laid with minimal effort. Chances are she'll get pregnant because she's no used to casual sex and then choose to keep the baby.
Let' see some actual studies into that other than your own intuition.

>I know for a fact that all the alpha guys get laid the most. You'd be stupid if you don't realize that.
Let's see some actual studies to that effect then. You remember that one about the high school hook ups? Pic related? That doesn't seem to be showing that all da wimminz flocking to alpha males.

>I just think everything I said was against your personal agenda. You don't want sexual freedom to be cause of gender desphoria
No, my agenda is ACTUALLY PROVE WHAT YOU'RE FUCKING ASSUMING YOU GODDAMN RETARD. Because you're demonstrably wrong about well, pretty much every claim you've made.

Of course my guesses aren't correct yet because society is still in the early stages complete sexual freedom. The norms haven't changed completely. But sexual freedom is complete, you'll see that I'm right.
Maybe most girls don't fuck chad yet, but it is the end game of sexual freedom. The pieces are still falling into place.

>It doesn't matter that everything I factually claimed earlier was wrong
>It's just a trend that hasn't developed yet
>I of course have no evidence that anything is moving in this direction, BUT I'M RIGHT!

Do the species a favor and kill yourself.

/r9k/ btfo

>that picture
WHAT THE FUCK

The fact remains that the number of children with gender dysphoria is increasing.
There has to be a reason for this. And I suppose one reason could be the sexual freedom. Sexual freedom does create haremized societies.
Many there's many people that will say that they liked girls at first but then started liking traps eventually because they had no hope with girls.

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Americans jesus fuck what is wrong with your children? The normal age to lose your virginity here (at least among the middle class) is around 19

>Romantic and Sexual
Wait was it both? Which was which here?

Where are people who didn't have sex in high school in your pic?

This is crap, women standard is lower than ever and any retard subhuman can fuck a random bitch just by being retarded

Why am I a virgin then?

You're right op.

Not that user but the intent was to observe romantic relationships.
If you're studying snowflakes, you don't keep track of the Ones that never formed

Only 40% of men that ever existed reproduced, after the dawn of agriculture that fell to around 6%, then returned to it's normal number as civilization came into being.

Basically what is happening now is the development of an ideology which can only be called "National Chadism". Chad's impregnate the women and then taxes are extracted from the beta male workforce to pay for Chad's child.

The elite provide birth control for women which alters her instinct to find beta men attractive, which lets the average beta get married and rarely have sex, but when the women stops using the birth control she reverts to her primal instincts and seeks impregnation via alpha male. Soon the elite will ban paternity DNA testing to maintain stability in society and prevent a beta revolt, in France for example child DNA testing is already illegal.

Many betas however are aware something isn't right about the modern sexual marketplace, many of them become cynical and drop out of society, video games, drugs, TV, computers, obscure hobbies, ect. I predict in only 3 generations beta male genes will have been totally removed from the human gene pool.

Beta male can easily come from beta women that get pregnant by chad.

Beta male genes*

>actually falling for the alpha/beta meme

>in France for example child DNA testing is already illegal.
Why is that illegal? Why?
Is it to prevent cucks from finding out?

doesn't matter if every man was a genetic turbochad, women and normy hanger ons would still gradate men into alphas and betas

A lifetime spent obsessing over porn has left you with impossibly unrealistic standards, so you only pursue women way above your league and then mope when they don't give your fat ass the time of day.

Some shit about maintaining "family stability"

Brief history of human sexual dynamics and its civilizational repercussions

Humans have evolved to live in harem societies, this is the natural pattern, what our ancestors have adapted their genes and deep-rooted mindsets to. In this kind of society, women are attracted by aggressive and violent, dominant alpha males, who keep harems and get to reproduce, while everyone is left either starving for leftovers or isolated and sexless. They sought aggressive and violent men because society, at that time, was aggressive and violent, and that preference remains for most women nowadays

What changed everything was the development of religion in the millennia preceding the Neolithic Revolution. The very idea that religious faith could be developed before agriculture providing a material basis for it was shocking to anthropologists, but it revealed something about human society, before everything else, before politics and economy, there is a cultural element, and in the first primitive religions, as remarked by Will Durant in his "Story of Civilization", the prime objective was to regulate the sexuality of women. That was necessary to break the natural harem societies and give beta males, many of them being probably priests of the new religion, access to reproduction.

This was the first beta revolution and sparked the development of agriculture and civilization itself. Ever since this moment, the history of human sexual dynamics has been cyclical, during periods of war and strife, the development of sexual regulation arises as a way to pacify society by denying access to women by aggressive and violent alpha males who create strife in society, this then creates wealth and prosperity, which then causes a breakdown in social mores as women feel free again to act upon their desires.

We are living such a time, and I don't think we will see a change in our lifetimes. Right now there is so much wealth around that that beta male labour is unnecessary.

>This is partially due to the official desire to "preserve the peace" within French families, with the French government citing psychologists who state that fatherhood is determined by society, rather than biology.
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How do you explain boypussy empires? Did they crack the code?

This means that there's nothing we can do. Beta males simply have to wait and cope with this bullshit while chads destroy society.
That's why they're becoming traps and trannies right?

Pretty much, I, for one, prefer isolation and going monk.

Serial killer is another option.

Since my religion condemns homosexuality and how I'm not really a trap, I prefer the same as you.

>They're literally arguing that fatherhood is a social construct

Is it though?

>There are basically 3 types of people. Chads, Stacys and Beta males

[Citation needed]

>The amount of women not getting laid is really low

So is the amount of males

>However half men (the beta males) aren't reproducing because women don't want them.

[Citation needed]

Go bac to r9k or pol, retard.

this is accurate but one thing it dosent account for is age demographics

men tend to rise trough domminance hierarchies as they age, if they live life right and dont fail completely into any one of a million behavior sinkholes

meaning a 30something beta that has his act together is as atractive as some alpha type, especialy to a younger female, all things being relative and screwups not accounted for

one thing society does do to shit that up tho is the autistic logic of same-age relationships, namely that once a dude has worked his ass off for 15-20 years and finaly made something of himself the notion that he might capitalise on this by getting that 20yo girl he always wanted is frowned upon, which imo is retarded and fucked up

>this is accurate

It really is not.

>what our ancestors have adapted their genes and deep-rooted mindsets to. In this kind of society, women are attracted by aggressive and violent, dominant alpha males, who keep harems and get to reproduce

No, pretty sure those are baboons, not humans.

it's the easiest way to explain why my crippling insecurity and self-loathing doesn't attract people regardless of gender or relationship.

Is it wrong for me to feel ill looking at that pic?

>Knights
>Ancient

>This is the kind of content that &humanities is responsible for

The fault of this showcase of retardation lies on the hands of the anti intellectualism/ "dumb it down brah" culture generated by bodybuilding forums+PUA+MGTMWOW+/pol/

Sorry but they're humans. Everyone on /r9k/ knows that I'm right.

whats inacurate about it?

i mean its a infographic, so its somewhat a generalised shema that dosent realy go into anything deeply but as a general representation of how humans function it isnt realy that off, even if it presents two extremes that probably dont match statistics 100%

>in France for example child DNA testing is already illegal

Stop this meme already, we can do it in other countries and we can do it in France if we ask a judge, it's stupid and inconvignant but there is no total ban

It's based on imagination, Not in actual data

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You have to go back

According to their paper roughly 33% of the students were not romantically active. It would be interesting to see the gender distribution in those 33%.

top lad

What's so bad about the pic? It just shows that the average person had one to three romantic or sexual relationships within 6 months. That's not a lot. Technically, you can categorise a single date as a "romantic relation".

>Everything I have read online is real, cuckolding is a sexual norm, and only turbo chads get laid and women are always promiscuous, most men down get sex and /pol/ is 100% right about women despite never interacting with them
Get off the internet and go outside for a bit user, its weird but having unlimited information at your disposal on a computer gives you a really narrow perception of reality. Go outside and see you little slice of the world, clear your head and improve yourself as a man, and who knows, even you might find a girl in the process.

"alpha/beta" is such a dumb way to look at the world. "Chad" doesnt get the engineering gig, "chad" doesnt cure disease or create antibiotics. Chad is a cop or a security guard or in some lucky cases a high ranking business person because daddy is CEO, but without family money a chad is just your typical coach potato when they grow up.

>Transitioning from males to females is natural
This statement along is enough to prove you're a total unnatural psychopath.

>Le improve yourself

Maybe he's better than you.

Who the fuck do you think you are to look down on him?

>"alpha/beta" is such a dumb way to look at the world. "Chad" doesnt get the engineering gig, "chad" doesnt cure disease or create antibiotics. Chad is a cop or a security guard or in some lucky cases a high ranking business person because daddy is CEO, but without family money a chad is just your typical coach potato when they grow up.
He still gets all the girls.

I went outside today to take an exam with a bunch of normies. I even said hi to a blond roastie. I also saw a chad.
Sorry but this is a cultured world view that's been tried and tested by everyone on /r9k/ and we aren't wrong. The 80 and 20% is real.

chad gets all the 6s-9s, but the 10/10s go for old white men because ultimately money>better sex

Yeah that's true.

However traps exist because of this.

It is. The "biological father" only matters medically.

Why do you assume that?
Don't you think a biological father would be closer to his children?

Another problem with the French doing this is that the women go unpunished for cucking their men. Injustice is when a criminal goes free.

in a sense it is in the same way motherhood is: you can be raised by and call someone other than your biological parents your parents. but this utterly disgusting that they are preventing cheaters from being caught and trying to undermine the bond between a father and his children. how long before they use this as grounds to deny a father visitation rights? this post-modernist bullshit is sickening.

the actual development is that video games cause people to lose interest in sex. chads are doing the grills because theyre the only ones who still talk to people irl.

I love watching all these idiot alt-right people get terrified of the women they feel entitled to having sexual ownership over will all join Chad’s harem if they are given the right to act even an iota more free than in Saudi Arabia. The fact is retards, that no woman who is not not a prostitute (A job less common per-capita now than ever) wants to be wife no.8 in some obese 60 year old’s fuck harem. It is in fact easier for a guy like yourself in the western world to reproduce now than at any point in history. Ye Olde days you all pine for were in fact full of monopolized sexual access where the only way vast amounts of men could get laid was through prostitution or rape.
Look back to the Neolithic Revolution, vast swathes of the male population produced no descendants while a small amount got huge harems. Nowadays polygamy is practically non-existent in the first world.

Polygamy might be absent but chad still gets to switch from girl to girl and all their virginities. while the rest of us get nothing.

Could be. I wouldn't be surprised. What I find more interesting is how the alt-right/anti-SJW/manosphere movement reacts to such matters. It seems to me that most of the people who see something bad about the left side of the picture are also the kind of people who talk shit about communism. Yet on the left of the picture, we have a glorious sexual free market - whereas, on the right of the picture, we have pathetic sexual communism.
Similarly, alt-rightists tend to support economic nationalism. Yet economic nationalism is a form of state control over the economy, and therefore a form of socialism.
Scratch the alt-right and you see that beneath the paint, they are really just leftists.

There is. Technology has progressed to the point where you can pass off as the other gender much more easily. So any dysmorphic tendencies have a greater opportunity to be expressed.

Alt-rightists are cancer and gender dysphoria is real.

This is retarded, how come the 1s aren't reproducing under sexual freedom?

Nobody wants them when they can have chads so they become trannies.

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& Humanities.

>Humans have evolved to live in harem societies,
No they do not, that's total bullshit. Gorillas keep harems, Humans are tribal like Chimps and Bonobos. Everyone exists as part of a small community which pools resources in order to maximize chances of success, the best hunter gets with the prettiest girl, while everyone else gets with someone within their league. Most people form a breeding partnership with a committed partner, but like every other animal which practices committed partnerships cheating is rampant, which is most of the reason why monogamy was institutionalized and ruthlessly enforced.

You don't start seeing harems until the late Chalcolithic and Bronze Age, because that's the moment in history when men started producing enough food by themselves to raise multiple families. Ramses II had hundreds of wives, Chinese Emperors built mini-cities of women they seized and made into one of their wives, all closely guarded by eunuchs.

When the Bronze Age collapses, the harem model virtually disappears in the west, and the succeeding iron age societies were oppressively monogamist, though some gave leeway on things like divorce and adultery, but towards the end of the iron age you had things like the Lex Julia which codified social conservatism as the law of the Empire, and Augustus was so keen on enforcing it that he sent his daughter to a nunnery for being a defiant slut. Even in China, where harems persisted among the upper class you had growing Taoist and Confucian schools of thought which enforced and indoctrinated social conservatism among the lower classes, and while the practice of harems continued for quite some time in Chinese history it remained in a gradually diminishing minority, until the modern day where Chinese form committed partnerships like every other human society on the planet.

harems are making a comeback in the modern world thanks to the sexual revolution

They aren't actually. People may have multiple partners in their lives but they only have one at a time. The modern generation even sleeps around less than Boomers did. The Idea that all the women are living in harems and not entering into one-on-one relationships is an /r9k/ fantasy meant to make them feel good about being Neets. Just go on a damn dating site and you'll find someone pretty quick, but I guess complaining about non-existent conspiracies to keep you a virgin takes less effort.

Women are sleeping around with chads willingly instead of being locked in harems. Just because chad one every night doesn't mean he isn't switching them every week.
There are more virgins now than there were in the past due to this behavior sky rocketing in popularity.
Explain all the trends of herbivore men and virgin NEETs. They didn't exist before.

Stop pretending things are better.

>Chads
>Stacys
>Betas

Are you 14?

Nah, that's just an illusion. Marriage rates are declining because for many women it does not make economic sense to enter into an entangling legal arrangement. But they're not all getting divorced to go be an objectified fuck-doll in Chad's harem, they're mostly either remarrying or they're entering into an informal arrangement with someone they like better. It's only the damaged ones which take it to the extreme.

Humans and monogamist birds have always been partners that cheat on each other, and occasionally one man is made (or voluntarily decides) to raise another man's child or two. That's not a harem, and there's literally nothing wrong with it.

But lets not forget that the dominant religion in the West centers around a man who did just that: Joseph was well within his legal rights to divorce Mary when he discovered she was pregnant and the only thing he knew is whose baby it wasn't. But he would have been well aware that by doing so he would have condemned Mary to the life of an impoverished prostitute, and the child a horrible quality of life and probably dying before reaching adulthood. Luckily the better angels of his nature held out, and he ended up raising one of the most important individuals in history, regardless of whether or not you think he was literally the son of God.

That's because humans are tribal by instinct. The tribe is an ideal to live by, and that's what you're ultimately passing down: an ideal which transcends blood and speaks to the truths that all humans are intuitively aware of. That's why it's not immoral for people to adopt; you're passing your family values and shared heritage and sense of community down to someone who will do that with the children in their own houses.

>Nah, that's just an illusion. Marriage rates are declining because for many women it does not make economic sense to enter into an entangling legal arrangement. But they're not all getting divorced to go be an objectified fuck-doll in Chad's harem, they're mostly either remarrying or they're entering into an informal arrangement with someone they like better. It's only the damaged ones which take it to the extreme.
Everything you said here only applies to women and men over 30.
Everyone under 30 is living on 2 week "relationships" which should be called friends with benefits.
The youth are all flocking to jump chads bones and maybe temporarily settle for a beta if chad isn't available at the moment.
You're too old to realize the degeneracy of the sexual freedom in today's society.

If they were all so desperate for some "Chad" then said Chads would through selection pressures become a small handful that possessed all the women and no women would bother to go to literally anyone else. This obviously doesn't happen because that would be mathematically impossible with everyone being in (short-lived or no) monogamous relationships. Your little pity party can not even physically happen unless women have somehow found out how to be in two places at once.

>You're too old to realize the degeneracy of the sexual freedom in today's society.
Nonsense. The youth are having sex at lower rates than previous generations.

latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-millennials-less-sex-20160802-snap-story.html
>The proffered reasons for millennial abstinence? A culture of overwork and an obsession with career status, a fear of becoming emotionally involved and losing control, an online-dating milieu that privileges physical appearance above all, anxieties surrounding consent, and an uptick in the use of libido-busting antidepressants.

The problem with you young whippersnappers is that you make impassioned appeals to idealism, and it's only until you reach final maturity that you begin to realize not just the importance of scale and perspective, but also the importance of taking the material circumstances into consideration, rather than writing it off as bad or degenerate morality. I'm sure nobody really wants to be mired in a culture of overwork, male or female, but that's not young people's fault that's old people's fault (people much older than I am) so blaming them is only demonstrating how little of the world that you actually perceive. But that doesn't mean you can't grow as a person.

When you learn to let go of idealism, you'll no longer idealize women and they will find you more tolerable, and you will realize that most of them want a Chad in their life just about as much as you do, but what they want less is a man who holds them in barely concealed contempt.

>everyone being in (short-lived or no) monogamous relationships.
They're not. More people are single than ever before in the west.

>but what they want less is a man who holds them in barely concealed contempt
So they're going to settle for me and I'm going to be grateful?
That's not going to happen.

How are things not better? If you're not in, like, the bottom 20% of male physical attractiveness, you can get laid without too much trouble. You can have multiple women. You can live out all sorts of crazy fetishes. You just have to make an effort.

>If you're not in, like, the bottom 20% of male physical attractiveness, you can get laid without too much trouble
Check your privilege bastard.