Why is Poland allowed to worship a military dictator but not Spain or Portugal?

I mean army was shit. No modernization etc.

Tell that to the fash

> Wandycz characterizes him as "an ardent Polish patriot who on occasion would castigate the Poles for their stupidity, cowardice, or servility. He called himself a Polish Lithuanian, and was stubborn and reserved, loath to show his emotions."

>Greatest Polish national hero
>mocks Poles for being stupid

Read this

It's true. Most of our people are stupid

>Franco
>More than 190 concentration camps, holding 170,000 prisoners in 1938[7] and between 367,000 and about half or less million prisoners when the war ended in 1939.
>At the end of the Spanish Civil War the executions of the “enemies of the state” continued (some 50,000 people),[180][181] including the extrajudicial (death squad) executions of members of the Spanish maquis (anti–Francoist guerrillas) and their supporters (los enlaces, “the links”)

>Piłsudski and Sanacja
>According to the surviving documentation of the camp, more than 3000 people were overall detained in Bereza Kartuska from July 1934 until August 29, 1939.[12] However, the camp's authorities stopped formally registering detainees in September 1939, after mass arrests began.[13] According to incomplete data from Soviet sources, at least 10,000 people had gone through the prison.[14]
>Detainees were supposed to perform penal labour, and at least 13 people died during their stay.[3]

They are not comparable. And most prisoners of Bereza were actual terrorist (Ukrainians and right-wing nationalist).

>anti–Francoist guerrillas
Don't tell me those couldn't be flagged as "terrorists"

Except Piłsudzki was a revolutionary himself and took over what was a democratic country.
(a good one at that, women could vote and minirities had equal rights)

Franco made Spain Great Again

You are still comparing 13 deaths from mistreatment (and other causes) to 50,000 executions.

Franco was a bloody murderer.

Poland is still a mostly backwards, nationalistic country despite being a EU member for a long time. They haven't modernized completely yet.

So?

>that he dun goofed starting from 1926. Or 1930 at the latest.
Can you elaborate? I am actually interested.

>completely
>implying they even started

>yet
kek

How does that make imprisoning at least 10k people okay?

I see the german hate for slavs is still alive and well

He dun goofed with his coup d'etat of 1926. Later on, after he failed to reconcile with the opposition, he started to jail them. Moreover, as he aged he became more and more detached with reality and failed to recognize the need to modernize and mechanize everything.

Not him.
>criticise culture
>lol racist bigot
Every time.

taking in 3rd world countries was a mistake, they do nothing but leech

>Pilsudski is the symbol of nationalist Poland
>he was supported by socialists
>his coup was against nationalist government

Kill yourself Jean-Claude.

>at least
Those are Soviet estimates. Before the war only 3000 people were imprisoned.

>Most of our people are stupid

Amen. Poles are unfortunately easy to sway by elementary-school-level propaganda. Case in point: the bullshit about refugees that our government is spreading to gain support.

>polish nationalists are dumb
More news at 11

Think of their options.
>study in Europe
Lol taking our place, we should be getting educated not them!
>work minimal-wage in Europe
They took our jobs!
>work illegally
Criminals!
>live off welfre
Leeches!

Literally what do you want?

what kind of bs? honest question, not from poland

He murderded people worse than himself to protect the Spanish people. That makes him a hero.

>However, the camp's authorities stopped formally registering detainees in September 1939, after mass arrests began.
Read your own sources.

>accept these refugees or we will sanction you

They are basically admitting the migrants are a problem and that no one actually wants them.

It's not even about refugees at this point, it's about free money(500+ etc.)

Not ony he fucked up the economy for 20 years but he created an enormous division between the country.

i want them to at least try to do teamwork
it's ok to suck, but willingly do it is not good

>Dats right Poland. Let in deez Muslim niggers to commit crime and fuck up yo nation even doe you no to support your own citizens cuz Germany wants you to.
Kys

So... you want them to have jobs?
If you're just content with them having regular jobs then you're set, most of them do find work.

Those whom he murdered too were spaniards too you retarded yank.

>September 1939
Yes, that's the start of WW2.

im not talking about those who come here to work or whatever, im talking about the decisions their country leaders take (which are a reflection of plebs fb spam)

youtu.be/EAexp0w3H3c

Spaniards who were going to destroy the Spanish nation.

The leader of our governing party said almost literally: "the refugees bring dangerous diseases".

They spread such bullshit openly, while their meme-producing shills (Polish Internet is infested with paid shills) spread memes that even /pol/ would be embarrassed of.

How so? The communists and anarchists weren't even popular before the retarded army started the war.

Ah yes, except the republicans were literally antifa.

He's not wrong, Islam is the most dangerous of diseases.

This can be true though

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Mol

Poland itself is still a second world tier country and source of emigration. Why the fuck would they waste resources letting in niggers and towelheads who'd be better off elsewhere? Fuck Germany and fuck merkel.

that was said by many politicians here too (italy) and many actually believe it
you should have heard them when ebola was still a thing
still, the plebs are the ones to blame for believing such bs, politics is simply telling them what they want to hear

>Fuck Germany and fuck merkel.

>How so?
By starting a civil war, brutalizing average spanish and taking orders from Comintern.

WHAT THE FUCK I HATE RUSSIA AND ESTONIA NOW

apparently the entire visegrad group is edgy in your opinion.

Well, the cheaper cost of living would make settling people there cheaper than it would be to settle them in central or northern countries of the EU. But they'd probably move out, just like they moved out of Portugal, despite the government being super-pro-EU and there being no strong opposition to refuge settlement.

>tfw you willl never impregnate polish girls with your sacred sperm

because europe is giving them a lot of help to grow, would be nice to be thankful

>by starting a civil war
Except they didn't start this war.
>brutalizing average Spanish
No. It was mostly anarchists that weren't controlled by the republican government. Nationalists systematically murdered people.
>and taking orders from Comintern
Only the Communists.

You very image says "28% of colored people suffer from AIDS" which is a BS of epic proportions.

Secondly, it's beyond be how Poles could so easily forget how it was nice and fun to be judged by actions of individuals. During 1980s and 1990s Poles criminals often traveled to Western Europe to steal every shit that wasn't nailed down, and Poles were dismayed to be stereotyped as a nation of car thieves. And just look now - one black psychopath infected few women with AIDS - and now suddenly all colored people (so, not only Blacks) spread AIDS.

Funny how Proles complain about them being "leeches" but Poland is the welfre queen of EU.
All they do is take money and now they have to do something to contribute.

The civil war was started by Franco.
The popular front won in France too and they did not destroy it.
The socialist party did not take orders from the comintern.

>let in niggers from disease ridden nations who've never had a vaccine in their life
>BUT THEY'RE DISEASE FREE WE SWEAR

>take money from eu for healthcare programs
>should start spreading vaccines right
>waste it on buying adidas suits instead
>blame niggers

mmh right

>let in niggers from disease ridden nations who've never had a vaccine in their life

Syria pre-war was pretty ok by world standard, including vaccines. That is the country from which the refugees come from, not the fake ones which Poland isn't obligated to take in (and refuses to do so).

Don't forget Poland has literal state propaganda.

Meanwhile in Spain:
>fnff.es/
The oficial Francoist foundation that promotes the dicator´s figure
>theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/30/spanish-woman-given-jail-term-for-tweeting-jokes-about-franco-era-assassination
Jail term after tweeting jokes about the assassination, which ocured in 1973, of a Francoist head of government.
>elpais.com/diario/2007/10/16/espana/1192485613_850215.html
A senior and very democratic politician who calims that "live was fine with Francoism"
>elpais.com/elpais/2017/03/30/gente/1490895938_776301.html
The heirs of Franco ignore the law to avoid opening to turistic visits a palace which the dictator received as a present.
>elpaissemanal.elpais.com/comics/familia-franco/#!/foto/1
A brief comic about the heirs of Franco, and how they make their livings

>All those republicans raping nuns and alienating everybody didnu nuffin, dey was gus boyz.
Also I thought you leftards didn't like the great man theory of history? But when it politically practical it's okay to make a statement as simplistic as "Franco started the civil war" I Guess.

Tbqh TVP was never good but this shit now is literally Goebbels tier

>Don't forget Poland has literal state propaganda.

Yeah, it's so horrible that their ratings are diving. So, our govt is making a new mandatory tax to prop it up.

So does USA. It's called mainstream media.

At least the TVP is great for major lulz.

every country has mainstream media
the problem is how controlled they are

Dude, I want your Yankie news networks and it's nowhere near the bullshit that the Polish state TV is broadcasting.

Two-party system for you.

Yeah but they are some people who unironically watch this shit

You don't understand the scale of it. It's literally North Korea-tier "our great leader have done us a great service again, praise the lord" shit

How many of them. I know even some PiS-supporters that are embarrassed by what they watch.

My father and my grandma.

>polacks are shiting on their based right wing goverment
WHAT THE FUCK? /pol/ told me Poland is based

>believing anything /pol/ says

Franco did not start the war, he joined a coup, organized by other militarymen chiefly Mola. He end up being the undisputable leader thanks to the deaths of the General Sanjurjo and Mola in some aviation crashes.

So it seems that you knowledge about the subject is pretty limited.

/pol/ told me America will be great again

Poland has a birthrate of 1.29 that is even less than Germany (1.39)

They need those migrants

Not to mention young Pollocks are leaving the country.
>B-but muh 500+

He did not collaborated with Hitler, he wanted him jailed.

>civil war was caused by burning of monasteries
It was caused mainly by the agrarian reform

also i am not a leftard

>Poland has a birthrate of 1.29 that is even less than Germany (1.39)

And here you have the root cause why Poles voted in populists.

The country was developing fine for last couple of years, but people got less from it than could be expected. Especially young people who have to work long hours and constantly study to improve their skills. They had no time to create families and pregnancies were unwelcomed by private employers.

And you have PiS which promised 500 zl (roughly 130 dollars) for each child every month.

We have Ukrainians now, some say over 1 million already.

>some say
Really makes you think

the 1.29 stat is for 2014, anyway, do you honestly think refugees will become productive members of society?

>They need those migrants
Why? So wages can be lower and resources drained quicker?

>based right wing goverment

Polish government isn't right-wing. They are literal Bolsheviks, although this time with a Catholic and nationalist message.

This is literally a revolutionary government which openly disregards laws and court verdicts whenever it sees it fit. They want to transform the society entirely in one giant social experiment. In just two years they have taken over and changed for the worse: administration, schools, state prosecutors. Now they are taking over courts.

Also, they are the most nepotistic government ever. They don't feel any shame of it. Just two days ago one minister was filmed giving a CV od some guy's daughter to another minister. Their reaction when questione: fuck off, that's a non-issue.

I really hope I was one of those stupid kids screaming bloody murder over nothing. But the shit actually happening in Poland is big and has far-reaching consequences. It will take long years to repair what they have already destroyed.

B-but they won... that means they can do whatever