The real number was 300k, not 6 million. And they died of starvation and typhus, not gas chambers or shootings

The real number was 300k, not 6 million. And they died of starvation and typhus, not gas chambers or shootings.

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Show me a nazi gas chamber.

Really? Why would Hitler rail against judaism so much, decry them as the scum of the earth, why would he take those people, and decide to keep them in a camp, using men and material for no gain whatsoever?

What was the purpose of the 4 Einsatzgruppen units (each consisting of 500-1000 members of the SS and Gestapo) during Operation Barbarossa? How were these units different than the Wehrmacht's Security Divisions (Sicherungs-Divisionen) and Guard Units (Landesschützen)?

Why would Jews inflate the number of holocaust victims when reparations paid by West Germany after the war were based on the number of survivors and not the number killed?

What did SS and nazi officials in internal memos mean by the word "Special Treatment" (Sonderbehandlung) regarding jews in their custody?

How could the prisoners at the Bergen-Belsen be starving to death when 3 km away the food stores for the camp contained "600 tons of potatoes, 120 tons of tinned meat, 30 tons of sugar, upwards of 20 tons of powdered milk; cocoa, grain, wheat and other foodstuffs." Why was this food withheld from the starving prisoners?

If the Jews were evacuated "to the East" rather than being exterminated in Poland, what happened to them? Why have so many family members of those "evacuated" never heard from their loved ones again? Wouldn't they try to make some contact in the past 70+ years?

Of the approximately 1,300,000 deportees sent to Auschwitz, only 400,000 were actually admitted into the camp. What happened to the 900,000 who were not admitted to the camp? Were they sent home?

How plausible is it the allied governments trained and deployed thousands of staff to axis controlled territory during the last year of the war create and plant thousands of false documents, faked photographs, forged diary entries in the correct places so that they would be discovered by liberating allied personnel without their scheme being discovered and exposed over the past 70+ years?

How were the victims of the nazis Aktion T4 program killed? How were their bodies disposed?

He saw the threat of jewish controlled bolshevism and the jewish banks attempting to control the world and fought against it. The point of the concentration camps was to deport the Jews after the war ended and the Jewish elite was dismantled.

The Jews have always been a hated sort in history, their lust for power and control dates back to the times of Charlemagne. The point of this exaggeration and falsification of history was to garner sympathy for the Jews and de-legitimize and even incarcerate people in some countries who speak against the Jewish elite currently in power. They do not want their authority questioned and so the populace is brainwashed into serving them (See America's loyalty to Israel) and never speaking out against the Jews in fear of being called evil or a "nazi" and ruining their lives.

Nice reddit spacing, by the way.

So, hitler, believing that the world's finnances were controlled by jews, and that jews were insidious, evil, clever rats, decided that it'd be a good idea to take men and material and spend it on holding people he was going to deport later anyway?

You mean line breaking, it's useful to strucutre things longer than your dick, you fucking faggot.

He had nowhere to deport them at the time. They would have likely been deported somewhere in Siberia or maybe Madagascar.

That made me remember about what Videla supporters in Argentina say.

>"No eran 3000 ni eran inocentes"

Address his questions, rather than trying to find a motivation of Jews that would justify them being hated, which is easy to do for any ethnicity.

Did you know that 100,000 Jews fought in a German uniform during world war I? This made them the largest minority group (in terms of % and raw number) 12,000 of them gave their life for their country and 18,000 received the Iron Cross during the war?

Sounds like they were patriotic and proud of their nation.

Did you know that thr orchestrators of the Communist revolution in Germany were Jewish, aswell? The revolution that led to Germany losing WW1.

Meant to reply to

They were winning until 1918? Were sailors who started revolt jewish?
Please explain mental gymnastics you use to come to your brain dead conclusions.

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And thats how Germany lost world war 1, thank you for great collage /pol, I finally see now.

Your infograph needs updating

Why does the OP of this thread keep changing the subject when he is asked to validate his claim?

>This judeo-bolshvist revolt was put down by the judeo-bolshevist government that surrendered
Really gets the old noggin joggin don't it?

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>The Jews have always been a hated sort in history, their lust for power and control dates back to the times of Charlemagne.

lol

do you mean to tell me charlemagne hated jews

>Wikipedia
>outdated Wikipedia page even
>lists Liebknecht as "Jewish", despite him not even being Jewish (and not being born into a Jewish family either)
>only highlights Liebknecht in the overview, but not in an expanded view, because it would show that he isn't a Jew, despite him being the most important of all the people listed
>doesn't list Mehring, because he is both not a Jew AND even possibly antisemitic
>doesn't list Pieck, not a Jew
>doesn't list Richard Müller, not a Jew
>doesn't list Barth, not a Jew
>doesn't list Eichhorn, not a Jew

youtube.com/watch?v=qTYSv_YQOVo&t=455s

>The revolution that led to Germany losing WW1.
Dude, by the time the revolution happened Germany was starving and getting its shit kicked in on the Western front, with basically no hope left of winning the war. Germany didn't lose the war because of the revolution. Quite the opposite - the revolution happened because Germany lost the war. And it wasn't just some narrow communist revolution, like you might imagine. It was a broad revolution that involved military personnel, social democrats, and many other groups as well as far leftists. The German government had proved itself incompetent in allowing itself to be pulled into the war, and had then proved itself incompetent a winning it. That government was going to get replaced one way or another.

>The revolution that led to Germany losing WW1
The Spartacist uprising started on the 4th of January 1919. The armistice that ended the war was signed on the 11th of November 1919.

Apart from complete ignorance and an obvious lack of research, is there any point /pol/tards actually employ to get around the fact that their main "argument" when it comes to "jewishness" of the German revolution is equating the whole revolution with a smaller segmentand pulling a few jews out of the hat to parade around as the masterminds behind the whole event?

Wrong

Not an argument.

Did you know that the German government financed Bolshevism to destabilize Russia?

I'm surprised they don't blame the Catholics in the Zentrum Partei for losing the war honestly

How much are you getting paid for this?

Nasionalsocialisten leverage the confiscated gods into a economic advantage.
Nasionalsocialisten also understood that the Upper echelons of the Jews is basically a International aristocratic class, which meant there was a real possbility of a proxy class war. And the proxy war did happen.

>2nd point
Because Jews as a elite social group, can do that, because they occupy a large enough space of academia and the upper society, to successfully do that.
Lots of other groups try to the same(Roma, Lapp, war genocides, Kurds, etc), but they lack the social position and cohesion to push their agenda. There is a reason why Holocaust is more than a small footnote of WW2, and why it misrepresented quite heavy handed.

>the systematic extermination of civilians (jews, Slavs, gays, gypsies, political opponents, religious minorities)
>misrepresented quite heavy handed

>mfw JIDF goes to this length to try and push their agenda
All you're doing is proving what an ideologue you are. Why do you even have that image saved to your computer?

So you're not going to read it and actually come up with an argument? Hehe get the fuck out :^)

Nice deflection. Answer my question, Chaim.

>Gets BTFO
>Tries to rapidly change the subject

Why are naziboos so pathetic?

I didn't post the picture, but it sure looks like you got nothing to argue with.

>Why do you even have that image saved to your computer?

What are you, a fucking child?

>The Spartacist uprising started on the 4th of January 1919. The armistice that ended the war was signed on the 11th of November 1919.

The Spartacist uprising started on the 4th of January 1919. The armistice that ended the war was signed on the 11th of November 1918.

>politely corrected

What's your agenda?

Oh my, thanks for correcting my mistake.

Asking those philosophical questions, I see. Why are we discussing anything at all on this imageboard, am I right?

You didn't address a single one of his points, all you did is say DA JUZE without providing a single scrap of evidence to support yourself. Just pathetic, leave this board and don't come back.

Can you prove that they died from typhus and starvation ensuing from supply lines being wrecked by Allied bombing? I assume that's what you believe happened, is that right?

show me were all the friends of my grandmother dissapeared to in the second world war

Yup, typical /pol/ack can't even form even a shred of an argument

>gets btfo
>has no rebuttal
>posts a meme and attacks the other person's character
Very impressive /pol/, you're really convincing us.

You're right, it wasn't six million. It was a total of eleven to twelve million, once you count all the non-Jewish groups (Poles, Russians, homosexuals, gypsies) who were also killed by the Nazi regime during the Holocaust.

Not really, just curious what the motivation is behind your obvious shilling. What kind of person anxiously comes to the defence of Jews and relentlessly starts spamming JIDF zealotry the moment they catch sight of criticism? Do you do it for free?

I like history and hate the ignorant falsifications of ignorant nincompoops concerning events that affected my relatives among many others from my country.

So you're motivated emotionally, which means you have no argument. Opinion discarded.

Each jew is worth 20 goy.

The fact you guys unironically believe this stormfront tier shit is very damaging to your own minds. It's ok if you didn't crack out of your teenage edgy shells yet, but I don't think (((facts))) from /Pol/ or any written book by a Jew-hating, tinfoil-wearing conspiracy theorist are really plausible

What's that? You want some reading material?
mp.gov.si/fileadmin/mp.gov.si/pageuploads/mp.gov.si/PDF/poprava_krivic/Crimes_committed_by_Totalitarian_Regimes.pdf

??? His motivation has nothing to do with whether his argument is valid.

Even if Polish Jews were majorly behind the uprising the idea all Jews were in cahoots is nonsense and cannot possibly be true. It is not physically possible for every single Jew to communicate to each other to that extent and there were many Jews actively working against the uprising, shooting commies in the streets alongside Protestant and Catholic Germans.

Jesus, do you have anything to say other than this postmodern "reality is not real" mantra?

Why does (((/pol/))) always deflect when confronted with their own shilling. This is a history board, people care about historiography here. That's what motivates almost all on topic discussion.

It is. There is a reason only Jews get mentioned.
Its also the reason its called Holocaust instead of Nasionalsocialisten's Great Genocide or some shit.

>I don't think (((facts))) from /Pol/ or any written book by a Jew-hating, tinfoil-wearing conspiracy theorist are really plausible
And let me guess, the newspeak people regurgitate from the sociological flimflam that is high school history lessons is? That's all I've read so far. Useful idiots spouting the entirety of the newspeak dictionary that state education has provided them.

What makes you think I dispute this?

Replace "argument" with "murder" and see how logically flawed your argument is.

When has anyone ever spoke in complete absolutes accusing a group of people for something e.g. Swedes are cucks, like they actually meant absolutely all of them - never. You're a strawman.

Tell me where you infer a 'postmodern "reality is not real" mantra' from my post.

>questioning the narrative is shilling
You've blown your own cover. BTFO.

Can these faggots die already

This isnt a pol echo chamber you wastrel

That I know Kikes had much more common with Hitlerism than communism or any other ideology and that fact Kikes always worked side by side with Krauts to achieve common goals of world controll as greatest fascist general Radola Gajda said.

If this so called genocide took place, who gave it the word "Holocaust"? Has this word ever been written or said by someone who took part in this so called genocide? If not Holocaust then what about Shoah?

Really makes you think.

Now let me guess, you're from the States? It's not a worldwide conspiracy, it's just your low quality education system.

>What makes you think I dispute this?
What you posted in , perhaps?

>questioning the narrative
That's not what this is, you're denying the truth.

>Tell me where you infer a 'postmodern "reality is not real" mantra' from my post.

>People don't agree with my conspiracy theory because they are paid by le Jews. This means I don't have to provide any other arguments for my theory, because my feelings are more important.

>questioning the narrative is shilling.
Spreading disinformation is shilling. That's what holocaust deniers do, whether done consciously or not. That's what the entire movement is based on.

Inb4 >anything that isn't jewish lies is disinformation

>Nvm that jews were forcibly held in camps and that there's no proof of supply lines being damaged to the point where food and medicine couldn't be transported to the camps to feed prisoners properly, it's true because my impartial sources that expose jewishbolshevikmarxistlibral propaganda say so!
>Nvm that people couldn't leave famine-stricken areas and food was taken from peasants and people who resisted were repressed and there's no proof of kulaks hoarding grain to the point of causing a famine, my impartial sources tell the truth unlike bourgeoisecapitalistfascist propaganda!
Really makes me think.

It doesn't matter because the 6 million figure is effectively history whether it's true or not.

The only purpose questioning it would serve is to fulfill some ulterior motive of propogating Jew hate, which well, you should've grown out of by now. That being said though, at this point it's more fun watching people get triggered by someone proposing an alternative figure that's

Why does everyone feed stormfags like you? All you do is insult and obfuscate without making any actual arguements and then claim you won cause you shouted the loudest. Your just here to try to get yous.

People calling out deniers on their bullshit is not sperging out.

OP is stil a fag and a liar.

i was they all emigrated and changed their identity...

>When has anyone ever spoke in complete absolutes
What exactly is your problem with 's pic then?

*i was told (by some denier)

>Inb4 >anything that isn't jewish lies is disinformation
how to btfo your entire post

>People calling out deniers on their bullshit is not sperging out.
never seen that happen, only appeal to authority happens in those threads from holohaox believers

>Replace "argument" with "murder" and see how logically flawed your argument is.

It isn't logically flawed and your attempt to make a murder analogy doesn't do anything to change that. It's a really basic fact that your motivation has nothing to do with whether or not your argument is valid. If you argue 1+1=2 it doesn't matter what your motivation is, your argument is still right.

seriously, fuck off

/pol/ is so fucking stupid

not necessarily. Your conclusion will be correct, but the argument that you use to reach it might or might not be valid.

To make a ridiculous example the statement
>1+1=2 because my house is made of bricks
Is technically an argument, with a valid conclusion, just a really shitty chain of logic trying to connect here and there.

.t pedant.

>Tfw browsing this thread in a publix break room

Oh, but it is. Because you've all been at it for years at this point, and instead of letting this shit slide down to page 10 you entertain it for whatever reason.

It doesn't btfo anything because holocaust denial is objectively rampant with disinformation. A lot of falsely attributed quotes, information taken out of context, completely fabricated pieces... if the truth doesn't fear investigation I'm wondering why it doesn't hold up so well in this particular instance.

>Your conclusion will be correct, but the argument that you use to reach it

The issue is whether your *motivation* matters, not whether your argument matters.

>pedant

No, a pedant wouldn't confuse "motivation" with "argument."

>objectively rampant with disinformation. A lot of falsely attributed quotes, information taken out of context, completely fabricated pieces
>implying this also can't be attributed to holohaox

Try reading the WHOLE post. And then realize I was only responding to the statement

> If you argue 1+1=2 it doesn't matter what your motivation is, your argument is still right.
Idiot.

>Landauer
>literally who
Leave it to Americans to be this uneducated.

Honestly, if the jews really have tricked us this whole time and managed to maintain one of the most complex and intricate conspiracies in human history I'm left wondering if they haven't really deserved all this alleged power.

They've proven themselves to be staggeringly competent if the theory is actually correct.

Why cant people have an anti semetic concersation without you keyboard warriors butting in. You are worse than male feminists

go back to r/history if you like enforcement of certain thoughts and heavy moderation redditshit

Are you thick? It's propaganda used by holocaust deniers to support their claims on the holocaust.

Free speech and the desire to have a higher level of discourse backed by facts and figures.

>implying your objective opinions are facts

are you?
are you seriously implying that holohaoxers aren't guilty of the same thing

This thread is hilarious

You actually can, there's another board that's perfect for people who don't like debates or having their opinions challenged much. You've probably heard about it, it's on this same website.

based MGGA jews showing that nazism isn't really anti-semitic

questioning the number of deaths is one thing, seriously talking about a "holohoax" is /pol/ tier bullshit and doesn't belong on Veeky Forums