Was Islam responsible for the destruction of much of the cultural diversity in the middle east and North Africa?

most of the languages from the pic were dead before the arabic expansion. they had all been sidelined by aramaic already. Aramaic was mostly displaced by arabic but it's still around.

semitic is a branch, just on a higher level

bad argument. script doesn't say anything about relatedness

>if the script looks similar it must be the same
BASQUE AND ESTHONIAN SURE ARE SIMILAR RIGHT

Huh...So some Ethiopians/Eritrean's are descendants of Semitic immigrants who came from Southern Arabia a few thousand years ago? Could explain why some of em have an Arabid look

language =/= genetics
can you guys learn this at some point please?

No more than any other cultural hegemony spread by a strong, rising, and central empire/authority. In fact, even after Islam many cultural traditions still abound throughout the middle east and it is not as homogenous as you probably think it is.

If you want to lament cultural diversity and the loss of it, then go bitch about capitalism, globalism, and the USA.

South gulf Arabs really do look close your pic, clothing aside

Not really.

bbc.com/news/science-environment-18526428

The upperclasses look very Arabid, but most of their arabid admixture has been diluted in much of the population as a result of mixing with purer African groups over the Millennia. Some of their kings look straight up Arab though. See Haile Selassie. The king who unified Ethiopia a few hundred years ago could fit perfectly in Arabia.

I find it pretty sad that a dindu country in Africa has more Semitic languages than the whole middle east.

The cushite gene is already distant from West Africa and Nilotes and has caucasian facial features. The 20-30% arab just gives them lighter skin and looser hair.

Mix a west african or a ugandan with a Arab and they would look nothing like it

Language started with out arabs

>The Ge'ez language is classified as a South Semitic language. It evolved from an earlier proto-Ethio-Semitic ancestor used to write royal inscriptions of the kingdom of Dʿmt in Epigraphic South Arabian. The Ge'ez language is no longer universally thought of, as previously assumed, to be an offshoot of Sabaean or Old South Arabian,[16] and there is some linguistic (though not written) evidence of Semitic languages being spoken in Eritrea and Ethiopia since approximately 2000 BC.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ge'ez#History_and_literature

>Muh cushite
Fuck off somalishit

>Wiki

Sounds like someone with an Afrocentric bent wrote that. I find it hard to believe that a Semitic language is native to an African region.

Also, the oldest archaeological find in Ethiopia was a 3000 year old Sabaean temple . There was obviously a Sabaean(Yemen) presence in Ethiopia long ago. They were probably a colony.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeha

The oldest standing structure

There are ruins that are older

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dʿmt

You could have easily found this out if you cared to look

And they specifically talk about how the Sabbeans had a minor influence on the cultures around it

>Scholars like Stuart Munro-Hay thus point to the existence of an older D'mt or Da'amot kingdom, which flourished in the area between the 10th and 5th centuries BC, prior to the proposed Sabaean migration of the 4th or 5th century BC. They also cite evidence indicating that the Sabaean settlers resided in the region for little more than a few decades.[8] Furthermore, Ge'ez, the ancient Semitic language of Eritrea and Ethiopia, is now known not to have derived from Sabaean, and there is evidence of an Ethiopian Semitic-speaking presence in Eritrea and Ethiopia at least as early as 2000 BC.

>Sabaean influence is now thought to have been minor, limited to a few localities, and disappearing after a few decades or a century, perhaps representing a trading or military colony in some sort of symbiosis or military alliance with the civilization of D'mt or some proto-Aksumite state

the language has been around for at least 4 thousand years

AT BEST one guy (Kitchen) thinks they brought over the language 5000 years ago then assimilated. And most people disagree.

>Muh afro centrism

Hearing facts you don't like so you have to attack the person who said them

Nice ad hominem
again more fact you don't like

>Hebrew
>living language

>The only existing major non Hebrew Semitic language Amharic, does not resemble Arabic in the slightest.

Define major. Despite the number of speakers, Aramaic is spoken around the world due to persecution/dispersal of the speakers (as non-Muslims) since WWI.

The 'displacement' of Aramaic by Arabic has been complex. Much of the Islamic Golden Age was about matching Aramaic, while in Aramaic a system developed for reading Arabic in Aramaic script (Garshuni, which is still used). As a speaker of it, I don't notice any additional ability to speak Arabic (which I don't at all) from their Semitic relation.

Maybe, but Arabic and Aramaic are both very diverse.

>tfw when no Punic or Phoenician to learn and speak to natives.

The Middle East before Islam was dominated by Aramaic on the coast, Coptic in Egypt and a smattering of Greek all over. Those languages all still exist, so no

I think Coptic has only been a literary/learned language for at least a century, maybe several centuries. Just saying.

the difference is Christianity is only a religion. Islam not only spread Islam, it also spread the Arab ethnicty to non Arab peoples. Basically, all of north Africa from Morocco to Egypt + Sudan, and all of Syria and Mesopotamia became Arab, even if Berber nationalists still exist.

Only the Spaniards in America did something comparable.

Then how are there so many surviving religious minorities in the middle east and almost none in europe?

>Language started with out arabs

LOL no, nothing started out with the Arabs, who are the niggers of the Mid East.

They spread Arab culture, not Arab "ethnicity"/genes.

What religious monorities were in Europe anyway? pagans? jews?

Not just Berbers. Half the thread mentions Aramaic and Coptic, both of whose speakers are largely Christians and not considered Arabs. The latter is spoken by priests, let alone Christians. While the former did not become the minority in upper Mesopotamia until well after the Arab invasions, possibly the Armenian/Asssyrian genocide.

In fact, both Egypt and upper Mesopotamia remained majority Christian throughout the Middle Ages. IIf Christians there are considered an ethnicity now while the main difference is religion, it probably was in the Middle Ages. It's a big tendency in broadly Eastern Christianity for religion and ethnicity to be tied, with Greeks, Assyrians, etc. representing Christianity as much as Arabs represented Islam.

I didn't realize ethnic Bedouins were native to Egypt.

Wiping out all the pagans counts quite a bit because that was most of Europe religions.

No. Many of the Levantine Greeks assumed Arab culture and Islam willingly. Cause if they keep winning, God must be on their side.

Yes, but that is not necessarily negative. Cultural homogenization does reduce diversity but it also creates cross cultural connections, such as those that facilitated the Islamic golden age of knowledge and discovery.

>the maghrebis are ethnic arabs meme
Why don't you faggots try to instruct yourselves?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_North_Africa

>Only the Spaniards in America did something comparable.
The Spaniards, the Portuguese, the French, the Anglos... really makes you think.
Nevermind how most of Africa was westernized. You morons sperg about when you see Lebanese or Africans named Abdul or Muhammad but you don't care when they're called Michel or João or Gaston Felix Aimé Ferdinand David Joseph

>Mediterranean paganism and mystery cults
>Neo-Platonism and theurgy
>Manicheanism
>Heterodox Christianity
>Germanic, Slavic, Celtic paganism
>Tengrism
>Islam
>"""Heresies""" that were basically new religions in the same way as Babism, Bahaism or Mormonism that appeared later
Jews avoided complete destruction by being "people of the book"