Who else finds Islam psychologically fascinating ?
I mean it turns converts from normal people into blood thirsty fanatics, and I don't think I ever met as muslim that couldn't be diagnosed with some psychiatric problem like NPD, BPD or PTSD.
It's a perfect religion for war, conquest and pillaging, yet it has just enough lawfulness, virtuousness and stability to maintain powerful societies and cultures working for centuries.
Has any culture ever managed to do achieve such a perfect balance of savagery and lawfulness ?
>It's a perfect religion for war, conquest and pillaging, yet it has just enough lawfulness, virtuousness and stability A successful army needs both. Discipline among combatants of the same side, rapepillageburn for everybody else. >to maintain powerful societies and cultures working for centuries. Muslims warring against each other before even the standardization of the Qur'an shows this is not the case. >Has any culture ever managed to do achieve such a perfect balance of savagery and lawfulness ? Yes, and the answer is any. As in any other. If Islam worked as well as advertised it, it'd rule the world, but this is not the case.
Gabriel Moore
Christianity before the modern era? These days there's very few Christians that's actually religious. If you find a married Christian girl, she's probably up for cheating.
Nathan Ward
Its creator was a war lord who spend his life conquering stuff.
Christianity was started by a hippie.
Zachary Martin
Ancient Rome.
Jack Smith
>mean it turns converts from normal people into blood thirsty fanatics >I don't think I ever met as muslim that couldn't be diagnosed with some psychiatric problem Doesn't sound like you've met a lot of Muslims. Go see the Muslims in Bosnia or Indonesia. Islamic terrorism is motivated by a political ideology and draws recruits from young men who are stupid, impoverished and/or mentally ill.
Lucas Rodriguez
But Christianity didn't tell it's followers to wage war. The waging war part was a decision of the followers and many times the justifications like "Deus Vult" was something made up, not written in the texts.
Many civilizations did the same thing, but how many did it for religious reasons ? How many had divine instructions to conquer the world and how to treat x and y ethnicities ? How many were following a dogmatic guidebook that can not be altered ever ?
I've dated a Turkish girl and got aquainted with her family and friends. These are the "secular modern" muslims. At first they seem pretty normal, until you start getting close to them and see how many irrational things they do out of cultural norms that come from their religion.
Emotional and physical abuse is pretty normal for muslims, and they don't see anything wrong with it.
Hunter Jones
>Emotional and physical abuse is pretty normal for muslims, and they don't see anything wrong with it.
>irrational things they do out of cultural norms that come from their religion. Such as? Methinks you're just experiencing culture shock.
Adrian Stewart
>Emotional and physical abuse is pretty normal for muslims Have you ever seen a turkish soap opera? The first episode always has a woman getting the shit beat out of her as an introduction to the story.
Eli Bell
It's also aesthetically pleasing in it's own way.
Thomas Kelly
>tfw the middle guy is dead >tfw everyone in that picture is probably dead by now
Leo Morgan
>how many did it for religious reasons ? Religion is the means, not the end. >How many were following a dogmatic guidebook that can not be altered ever ? If that were the case, it would be a weakness, but what matters is the intepretation, and that gets altered quite a lot.
If religious texts didn't contain only incomplete and conflicting information that would allow communities to come up with all manner of interpretations of the "eternal" to suit their contingent political needs of the day, they would discard them and come up with better ones.
Elijah Cook
GO AWAY, ZIONIST SUBHUMAN.
Parker Scott
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Levi Adams
That's one show and it's based around rape and how disgusting it is for anyone to ever blame a woman of rape, if anything that show is pretty damn progressive for the east or west.
Dated a Turkish girl once and I didn't experience anything out of the ordinary.
Alexander Jenkins
>this meme again
Hunter Ward
Good
Christian Cruz
So does Girl with the Dragon Tattoo tbf
Brody Wilson
>the "Christ was actually a violent extremist who advocated war against all other religions, because he tipped over some tables once" guy is back
Zachary Morgan
>implying most of the westerners who ran off to join IS and other jihadist groups over the years aren't/weren't middle class with university educations
David Anderson
This. I had to do surveys on known terrorist targets in Afghanistan and most of the terrorists are well educated and fairly wealthy (for Afghan standards) and a lot of them come from the big cities.
No joke they all have this weird idea of justice. They're not to much different then these new age college students in the West. The only difference is one hasn't been as violent as the other yet.
Zachary Cook
Explaining the difference between Christianity and Islam by comparing Jesus and Muhammed is retarded because Islam doesn't say that Muhammed was better than Jesus. In fact, Islam says that Muslims should emulate Jesus as well, and the Biblical Jesus has essentially the same character as the Quranic Jesus.
Hunter Robinson
>Has any culture ever managed to do achieve such a perfect balance of savagery and lawfulness ? Christianity
Hudson Cox
>666 What did OP mean by ?
Zachary Parker
Not questioning the authenticity of your statement, I'm just curious. Why were you doing surveys on such people, and how were these surveys conducted? That sounds like really interesting work.
Oliver Reed
>I mean it turns converts from normal people into blood thirsty fanatics It doesn't
Julian Diaz
>maintain powerful societies and cultures working for centuries. Nigga the Abbasids literally crumbled apart
Lincoln Cox
I would say that the quranic jesus is even more of an hippie than the biblical one
Justin Green
I was deployed in 2011/12 (usmc infantry) and was stationed on a small base that held and investigated Afghan individuals.
You'd also be surprised how many ways they spell Mohammed, it was pretty funny.
Lucas Carter
Any cool stories to tell ?
Jayden Perry
Google "Saudi Arabia".
Evan Bailey
>perfect balance Yeah, maybe for the second half of the 1st millennium. Nowadays the scale is tipped towards savagery.
Julian Bennett
name a significant contribution to mankind in the last 300 years from a muslim from an islamic nation
Mason Jenkins
I almost got brainwashed into joining ISIS by listening to that oddly hipnotic naashed music. Also nice trips satan
Colton Nguyen
>Cat Stevens >"peace and love man" >Yusuf Islam >"immolate Salman Rushdie"
Brody Barnes
Mohammad Abdus Salam made significant contributions to the theory of the unified weak and electromagnetic interaction between elementary particles
Ahmed Zewail made significant contributions to the studies of the transition states of chemical reactions using femtosecond spectroscopy
Rashid Sunyaev Sunyaev developed the theory for the evolution of density fluctuations in the early universe. He has collaborated in important studies of the early universe, including the recombination of hydrogen and the formation of the cosmic microwave background radiation.
Aziz Sancar made important contributions to the mechanistic studies of DNA repair
Omar M. Yaghi is known for work in the design and production of new classes of compounds known as metal-organic frameworks (MOFs), zeolitic imidazolate frameworks (ZIFs), and covalent organic frameworks (COFs)
Mahbub ul Haq developed Human Development Index and founded Human Development Report. He also made significant contributions to game theory.
Muhammad Yunus has pioneered the concepts of microcredit and microfinance.
Masatoşi Gündüz İkeda made important contributions to algebraic number theory
Kerim Kerimov was a founder Soviet space program, as well as a lead architect behind first human spaceflight (Vostok 1) and the first space stations (Salyut and Mir).
So far I have only mention Muslims who were born in the last century.
Henry Hall
Nonsense they make up completely different narrative about jesus. They claim jesuses teachings are completely the same as muhammeds and that christians have just corrupted the message. Their jesus has nothing in common with christian jesus whos teachings are completely opposite of muhammes war mongering.
Thomas Murphy
actually alot (most) jihadis come from rich or middle class backgrounds. They're usually well educated too. There is no evidence to suggest that most members of terror organisations are mentally ill either. Islamic terrorism is just that, terrorism based on islam, not a political ideology. Terrorism was even practiced by muhammed and his followers, and is prescribed to muslims in the qu'ran
Nolan Jackson
>he thinks bosnian muslims aren't violent
thats cute
Julian Stewart
such as beating the shit out of women and kids?
Jace Powell
W H I T E S H A R I A
David Bailey
To be fair, we know a lot more about Muhammad than we do about Jesus, supposing he even existed
Aaron Brooks
Except Quranic Jesus isn't the central figure of the Quran, Muhammed is, and Muhammed's message overall is much more "kill all the women from the defeated tribes", like Old testament shit.
Elijah Price
No, it doesn't rule the world, don't confuse the world with the Democratic Party in the US
Dominic Young
>I don't think I ever met as muslim that couldn't be diagnosed with some psychiatric problem like NPD, BPD or PTSD. I've met several at unit and they're not much different from anyone else though their families are conservative.
Julian Carter
>I've dated a Turkish girl and got aquainted with her family and friends. These are the "secular modern" muslims. At first they seem pretty normal, until you start getting close to them and see how many irrational things they do out of cultural norms that come from their religion larp.
Josiah Cook
>Jesus, supposing he even existed This meme again.
Ian Stewart
t. Serbian subhuman
Ryan Bennett
>Muhammed's message overall is much more "kill all the women from the defeated tribes"
Islam explicitly prohibits the killing of innocent women. According to all major schools of Islamic jurisprudence, you can kill a woman only if she either takes a direct part in an armed conflict against Muslims or commits any of the crimes which are punishable by death in Sharia (such as murder, for example)
Landon Walker
Typical American scum, sticking your nose where it doesn't belong just so as to distract your people from the president getting a blowjob from a jew
Blake Morgan
> Islam doesn't allow the killing of innocents.
Problem is, Islam condemns anyone who isn't a Muslim as a hypocrite, and what is the penalty for that?
Cameron Anderson
The only reason that Christianity was non-violent was because the Romans stamped out any and all revolts.
If the religion had emerged in the same situation as Islam, in a decentralised, chaotic region just begging for unification then it would have been violent.
But even then Christianity has been plenty violent regardless, the Crusades in the Near East, the Baltic, Spain etc.