What went wrong?

What went wrong?

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Poltava

Nothing much, really, except some problems because of immigration that have been blown out of proportion by propagandists. If you don't believe in far-right propaganda, you know Sweden isn't nearly as bad as it's often portrayed.

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it's literally 25% niggers and muslims

It's actually 75% niggers and muslim

Your country has more debt as percentage of GDP than the USA and Greece.
Importing debt free humans to indebt will only work for so long.

Do you have proofs?

Don't know if you're "joking" but since this is Veeky Forums and surely some retard is going to believe it.

From 2014
>Researchers estimate that approximately 6 percent of the population is Muslim.

Source: state.gov/documents/organization/238650.pdf

No, I was wrong, turns out its not that bad anymore.
It was in the 90s. I guess importing debt free humans actually worked out.

Did you pull that out off your ass?
>implying dept in percentage of gdp indicates how well a country's economy is doing
Why the fuck do faggots like you know so little about economics?

learn something new everyday

>6 fucking percent
>Scandi country
what the fuck

6% is still fucking ridiculous statistically. European nations are not Islamic civilization, nor are they this cosmopolitan one for all all for one American society.

Wisdom.
I mean, its still bad, but not as bad as Japan, Italy, USA, Spain, France, Canada, UK, India, Brazil or Germany, in that order.
Greece isn't on the list, since I am not sure how much of their debt is debt, and how much is charity at this point.

It's about the same in most european countries

Looking past the usual stuff, I fucking hate the Nordic concept of a justice system.
Criminals NEVER get punished in Nordic countries unless you consider staying in a hotel to be a punishment and they always intend to let the criminal back to society to repeat its crimes after being "reformed". It's sick to the core that a society doesn't care about victims rights and safety. Sure, maybe that works out well with the liberal interpretation of rape there but when actual rape happens there should be an actual punishment.
A healthy minded people don't produce a sick culture.

Just bad immigration system.

Just make it more meritocratic, deport criminals, keep the good ones, then you're good!

How about you keep the Nordics Nordic and kick out the shitskins?

That is the problem with the retards from stormfront!

You think that categorizing all of them in the same group will help?

Why not judging them individually? You may end up with much much less immigrants but the good one will be good, whatever their race.

Those who only thing about groups are usually retards who want to be associated to HIgh IQ white

>Those who only thing about groups are usually retards who want to be associated to HIgh IQ white


This so fucking much, HIgh IQ people are present within all race, the other race may have much less High IQ people than white but doesn't change the fact that they exist.

Why losing free ressources just because of the other savages?

Liberal modernist faggot. The world is not about your egalitarian cosmopolitan dream. They have a right to preserve their cultural and ethnic character.

Good muslims don't exist Sven, and you are dumb if you think they do.

>Liberal modernist faggot. The world is not about your egalitarian cosmopolitan dream. They have a right to preserve their cultural and ethnic character.
>Aka.I don't know shit about cognitives genes

A black man with a IQ of 105 and a white man with the same IQ are much closer (when we talk about cognitives genes) than a High IQ white male and low IQ white male.

Why losing free ressource? You must have a low IQ, otherwise, you will not say some retarded shit.

>Liberal

Nice try retard! I'm for a meritocratic immigration.

Norway has a recidivism rate of 20%
salve.edu/sites/default/files/filesfield/documents/Incarceration_and_Recidivism.pdf

USA has a recidivism rate of 44.7 % for federal prisoners and a 76.6 % for state prisoners (and that's just within the first 5 years of release)
huffingtonpost.com/christopher-zoukis/report-documents-us-recid_b_9542312.html

Say what you want about punishing criminals but if the mission statement of a justice system is to protect the populus from criminals then I'd dare say the US system of justice is a monumental failure.

>Good muslims don't exist Sven, and you are dumb if you think they do.

You're aware that muslim is just religious right?

Not all of them are muslim.

>Nice try retard! I'm for a meritocratic immigration.
That's fucking liberal as shit, you sound like some retarded "conservative" American.

Ethnic character is more than IQ rates you idiot. They have a right to preserve their society as it is, and not let foreigners infest it.

They have no right actually. There is cosmic right to exist as an ethnos.

Swedes have moderately high IQs but lowest rationality out of any breed of human. Their abstract neurology seems to make their extinction inevitable since they never make good collective decisions regarding their ethnos.

This so fucking much!

Their immigration system is shit, then they claim "lul it's because they're nigs/spics"


Well, if you accept anyone, then that's your fault.


>That's fucking liberal as shit, you sound like some retarded "conservative" American.
Do you have a brain?

Meritocratic immigration is seen as racist in a lot of countries, the alt right and SJW are a plague.


>Ethnic character is more than IQ rates you idiot
>They have a right to preserve their society as it is, and not let foreigners infest it

How can good people ruin a society?

Go ahead, tell me!

Life's not an RPG

This, but those who complain here are edgy kids who don't know shit about history

The brainwashing that's been going on there for decades isn't natural, it's been a top down tyranny that's been forced upon them. They may have no hope at this point of recovering by I am arguing more on the principle of the thing.

>How can good people ruin a society?
Can you not understand anything? It's not about whether they are good or not. They are not Swedes, they will never be Swedes. I'm fine with a small number of expats having residency but that's about it. Some black as coal African will never be a Scandinavian. Funny you same people think it's fine for Africans wanting the white remnants living there from colonial days to go away is not only perfectly fine, morally righteous.

Life's not a polfaggot fantasy where the poor Swedish people(YAAAAY) are born to be National Socialists but brainwashed by an evil Jewish(BOOOOOO!!) system into acting like a bunch of deranged loons either.

The way Swedes act is coded in their DNA and their society is an extended phenotype of their genetics. I really don't care if polfaggots can't reconcile reality with their Aryan Germanic supremacist fantasies.

>The brainwashing that's been going on there for decades isn't natural

You sound like if t's not their fault.

Europe want to basically like china, their solution is to bring a lof ot low iq people who will end up working for corporation at a cheap price, because now europeans cost too much.

If you want to stop that, just end the welfare state, work more, and the best will stay.

>They are not Swedes, they will never be Swedes
Again, How can good people ruin a country?

New Zealand is fine.

Low IQ people are not the one who improve society, those who denies that have low IQ.

Like it was said, High IQ people have much closer cognitives genes between them than low IQ.

It's retarded to not wish for more high IQ people just because of retarded low IQ.

>The way Swedes act is coded in their DNA and their society is an extended phenotype of their genetics
>Aka. I don't know shit about geography, relation, history and cognitives genes

Stupid low IQ.

You sound like /pol/ actually.

Calm down dude!

I hate /pol/ too but you have gone a little to far, Sweden's history is due to their geography, genius people..etc

You're arguing with an ethno-nationalist ideolog. No amount of contemporary cases of anything that does not fit into his ideology will make as much as a dent in his resolve to have blind trust in his position. To him it is not about feasibility or matters of human solidarity since his arguments revolve around a not yet realized utopia. Anything which is not taking the steps he deem necessary to actualize this utopia seems to him to be on a road to cultural annihilation.

Who the fuck cares what you like and dislike...

It works, you paste brained retard.

Basically this.

Even though history should show him how wrong he's.

Those newfags from stormfront haven't watch LOGH.

"Genes determine everything? What nonsense. Hereditary physical qualities have no effect on people, that's for individuals. Heredity concerns family background, not personal abilities. Those who blindly believe in such theories generally having nothing in their own lives to be proud of... they are the people I despise the most."

I try to have the most unbiased perspective on the world I can though while /pol/ is mainly about seeing all things in a way that supports their ideology 100%. All the cognitive dissonance there makes it hard to browse.


Sumerians also had a great past until they went extinct. Past doesn't determine the future.

I don't think Swedes aren't gonna start acting in a way that will change the course of things to come.

Lol what...

This MUST be bait.

Nope but I realize Commies and Nazis are both opposed to my perspective.

As a Swedish person living in Sweden, this is false.

SJW and alt right, both communities with retarded utopia.

None of them take truly account of history/philosophy.

Sad

Scandinavia is being Americanized, we use an excess of loan words and sometimes use English completely in speech, especially with the young. Our mentality and believes aren't shaped by local traditions and cultures anymore, but global english/US dominated internet culture. Haven't you noticed how many swedes are present on the site comparatively to our population size? So no, we weren't a cosmopolitan society, but the city cultures of the three big cities of Sweden are trying to shape us into that, into an "upgraded" image of america with the old swedish moral superiority and welfare state.

>stockholmare

kill yourself

>Scandinavia is being Americanized
The entire world is being Americanized. If you really want that to stop, then pray America suffers a worse Depression than the one they suffered in the 30's.

Not being under Danish rule.

I'm not, I'm just reporting about the current internal conflict. The social and cultural elite are positioned within our big city cultures and control the flow of our development and economic. And the rural populace is being either displaced with them moving into cities, or as in the work, being replaced. The new swede, regardless of ethnicity, doesn't adhere to the old mentality of Lutheran work ethic and embracing hardship, they want multicultural food, entertainment and high tech functionality. The struggle needed to attain this while still living the old nordic way is one they're not willing to embrace. Not unless a leader emerges that pretty much gives very strict and honest direction. We have a existential crisis of personality, we don't know who we are as a culture, or why we do what we do.

Do you know who the government here is importing, you absolute fag? The niggers with the low IQ which is double worse so that these low IQ people can work the hard labour for peanuts thus driving the wages down. It's not only about preserving our culture which is also extremely important.

Olof Palme.

>The nigs with the low IQ
>/pol/tard can't into reading

Most of us are for Meritocratic immigration, Just like with Australia, New-Zealand...etc

Your ideology isn't better than the one who try to make Europe the new China with low iq people who will work for corporation at cheap price.

Please, read books about history and philosophy and come back in 4 years.

Like I said, nothing wrong with having more High IQ people, regardless of their race

In 2015 Sweden recieved more immigrants than ever so any estimation before that year is most likely wrong.

> I fucking hate the Nordic concept of a justice system.

Works better than yours. Go bust some nigs on marijuana charges. It's so helpful.

It's your fault.

I bet you're a europoor who depend on welfare right?

You have a part in it, you're probably too lazy and cost too much, that's why they bring a lot of low iq people with welfare, because then, their friends will come, and will have to work for corporation, with a low salary.

It work for china's corporation, so if you don't want to finish like chinese, go being a hard worked and depend less on welfare.

200 years of neutrality went wrong since it basically made the swedish national identity fade away.

This. He 100% deserved to get shot.

This is literally Islamophobia

Just saying, if you only import people much smarter than the average citizen they will become disproportionately wealthy and influential. If they have a culture that is opposed to assimilation eg. Hinduism that can became problematic in the long run but if they are East Asians or Jews(Orthodox Jews are neither rich nor smart) they will be assimilated.

Letting this bald faggot become prime minister.

It's probably the retarded stormfag who's got ass blasted in the "redpill" thread.*


>Aka.I don't know shit about history.

I think you don't understand the point of individualism between High IQ people, they will assimilate more easily than anyone else because they bring something to the country.

Meritocratic immigration isn't bad, regarless of the immigrant's race.

Because their cognitives genes are much closer between them.

I didn't say it's inherently bad but you can't dismiss the idea of them staying within their culture/religion/ethnicity.

I think you should read some books about history/philosophy

Because /pol/ fucked up your mind.

I think the main problem why people don't assimilate is because they arrive in majorities.
A few of Koreans i know in Australia want nothing to do with their culture

What the fuck are you talking about?

You seem to know nothing about the real world and non-western cultures. History doesn't support you and western philosophy is irrelevant to oriental cultures.

In 2014 sweden accepted 31220 asylum applicants.
>migrationsverket.se/download/18.39a9cd9514a346077211b04/1485556218895/Avgjorda asylärenden 2014 - Asylum desicions 2014.pdf

In 2015 sweden accepted 32 631 asylum applicants.
>migrationsverket.se/download/18.7c00d8e6143101d166d1aad/1485556214929/Avgjorda asylärenden 2015 - Asylum desicions 2015.pdf

In 2016 they accepted 67 258 asylum applicants.
>migrationsverket.se/download/18.2d998ffc151ac3871592564/1485556054285/Avgjorda asylärenden 2016 - Asylum decisions 2016.pdf

The increase in 2015 is nothing but in 2016 we see a rise of about 100% which is quite drastic. The ratio of acceptance took at dip in 2016 compared to previous years but that is to be expected with such a large quantity of applicants (111 979 compared to 58 802 the previous year). My two cents on this issue is that with the emerging migrant crisis in Europe all European countries ought to up their intake of refugees but at the same time it has to be done right. The EU is reluctant to put a plan in place or even have the much needed discussion. NIMBY policies are popping up across Europe and might just be a bigger threat to EU stability than immigration poses at this, at least at this moment.

>You seem to know nothing about the real world and non-western cultures
>t./pol/tard

Not only you showed how much you lack of knowledge but you discredit yourself by trying to disprove history itself.

This.

But /pol/tard can't into logic/reading/history/philosophy

Try to construct a rational argument for history supporting you.

Same.

The non white I know are fine, immigration isn't massive in my country. (few thousand per years)

Never had any problem with immigrants in my case.

Social democrats

>Being this new

Not him but

>...and a high level of discourse is expected. History can be examined from many different conflicting viewpoints; please treat other posters with respect and address the content of their post instead of attacking their character.


Please try to post in accord to the rules or leave.
Some boards you might enjoy if you can't get used to the rules.

Carolus

Socialism and marxism, that's what went wrong.

Fuck off, black people are a very tiny minority i Sweden. Arabs are the numerous ones.

Kill yourselves.

Denmark have a lot as well.

Sweden is lost. Forget about Sweden, it's already over.

>3rd world country by 2030

>They have a right to preserve their cultural and ethnic character.
Keeping a few immigrants will not destroy their ethnic or cultural heritage.

you should get outside more. browsing /pol/ everyday is damaging your perception of the world.

>i have no proof or anything that would support my statement

Forget about Sweden, give up on us.

speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.454/sweden-to-become-a-third-world-country-by-2030-according-to-un.html

Literally Stockholm syndrome: the country

Somalis are actually pretty common, less than arabs but not what could be described as a tiny minority.

its one of the best countries in the world to live in, so not much

somalis are probably the group that reproduce the most in the country. they literally have like 5-8 children per family whereas the swedes get a child or three if any.

I think some of his ideas were fair enough, he just trusted too much in society's capacity to handle big demographic shifts. Not to mention the terrible urban planning of the 1960s which helped the rapid ghettoization of Swedish cities.

Tbh, that image was a Trump parody.

Which says a lot about current US government functions.

In 2012 there were 43 966 Somalis living in Sweden. For some perspective: The population of Sweden that same year was 9.519 million people. In 2012 Somalis made up less than half a percent of the Swedish population (0.46%).

Stay honest, stay factual, user.

It was an attempt at a Trump parody, backfired quite hard, as per usual Sweden made a fool out of itself, again.

>What went wrong?
Absolutely nothing. Sweden is objectively one of the best countries in the world. Free Healthcare, Free Education, Direct Democracy, High life expectancy, zero government spying bullshit, and one of the few countries where Human Rights actually means something. Sweden is the closest thing to Heaven on earth. Anyone who lives in Sweden and has the gall to complain can go fuck a Cactus. Go look at the rest of the world and be grateful for what you have.

What do I have? A government run by childless women hell bent on being the dumping ground for the refuse of the world, where cashing welfare cheques pays more than working?

>3rd world country by 2030

Obviously its great to live in Sweden if you compare to the rest of the world but compare it to the Nordic countries or the rest of Europe