Is hypergamy and the end of forced monogamy/arranged marriages a good thing as it ends the dysgenic effect on the...

>women
>capable of love

>The only way to save the world is to completely override our biological instincts

Image didn't go far enough, why stop with just women? Anti-natalism is the answer for all of humanity.

>tfw she doesn't text back

In traditional society at least you can work and if you got a descent position a faithful wife if pretty much a given.
Dating is lame if you are not Chad.

This implies that there's a very easy route from "good genes" to psychological agency.

Which there isn't really. If a woman is attracted to a man because he has a lot of money, this doesn't mean he has good genes. It just means that he was socialized correctly; he might still die when he's 45 from a heart attack.

I suppose men are? Because you said so right?

Fuck off reddit roastie cunt.

Haha. Jokes on you. In the future, the technology exists so that all men and women are genetically modified into futanari traps with functional breasts and vaginas.

And we will have a space program and will will have sex with all the aliens.

>In traditional society at least you can work and if you got a descent position a faithful wife if pretty much a given.
>being this deluded

>implying socializing correctly doesn't have a genetic basis as well
Friendly reminder people still become billionaires through looks alone.

That was a genuine question not just a clever quip to insult you for how stupid, biased, and naive you are.

And I told you to fuck off because I'm not interested in discussing anything with a woman.

It is true, a part if my familly still live in one of those.

Why does it always come back to the same thing of fags only angry because they are having a hard time getting laid? A lot of this comes from men and women not lowering their standards anyway thinking they are entitled to 9-10/10 Beckys and Chad's. As if going with shallow and people like that is good for anyone.

male virginity has never been particularly prized

I didn't say it didn't have any basis in genetics, but good socialization obviously is something powerful.

...

Maslow's hierarchy of needs puts having sex on the same level of breathing.

Way to expose your normalfag privilege where you can't even comprehend how devastating being an incel is.

Who hurt you? I bet if you just moved on and stop letting it drag you down instead taking it as a learning experience you would find someone better for you? This is the problem with 99% of males and females who got together with toxic people.
Just give it a go, user. No need forcing bitter forever.

It's more sociability than standard lowering desu, even with low standards hard to find a girl if you speak to a just few per year.
Then there is autismo

>if you hate women you're just sour graping xD
You're part of the problem if you unironically believe that.

I don't know why autists don't just go to Las Vegas and buy a hooker and get over the girl that was way above their level.

I mean plane tickets to Thailand aren't that expensive and neither are the prostitutes.

Or are you just looking for a mother figure you can fuck? Or is it you can't afford as you don't do anything but live in your mothers basement?

>tfw not even a toxic ex to blame my problems on

But we don't want a girlfriend you fucking retard.

Where do you see any of that implied in the OP? It's a valid, neutral question.

I don't know about you, but I lowered my expectations and fucked a fatty. Incel's think they deserve good looking women because they watch Jewish porn to make them betas. Really. Just go to a bar and fuck a fatty or old woman.

what is this logic
>he doesn't like whores?!?!?
>ill just show i'm a bigger whore then him!!

It's not about physical satisfaction, it's about knowing that someone has seen you as a suitable mate.

Because they genuinely believe that if they were only born 100 years ago they would be having so much sex with their christain wives rn.

ya nailed it user

Actually. If you worked hard and made lots of money, there are plenty of women who will have your baby, but you probably like reading Veeky Forums too much.

You could probably convert to Islam and meet a good Muslim women too, but you probably never did any task seriously in your life.

But no, your expectations are set by watching porn and you expect your sex life to be like that.

>Because they genuinely believe that if they were only born 100 years ago they would be having so much sex with their christain wives rn.
Empirically correct though. What's the incel problem like in KSA or India where marriages are still arranged? Victims of chemical accidents and the genetically malformed notwithstanding of course.

Shit tier trolling, apply yourself reddit.
captcha: Avenue Gayton

Really? Why do married people. Men and women cheat and have been doing so for thousand of years. It was expected that European nobility men would fuck mistresses

Marriage out of love is a fucking modern meme.

Expect for people who marry their prostitutes.

Procreation is in the decline in the West due to the expectations that emerge from society, and the troubling economic factors that are surrounding us: people are not willing to live like 18th century factory workers, and this is where we're heading, especially when the immediate example, their parents, sported a lifestyle that is now impossible for the majority of population. good fucking luck buying an house in your 20s.

It's not about hypergamy, or wome being sluts, it's about young couples who are presented with 2 choices: a tolerable life, or an absolutely miserable, oppressive and tiresome life with children, in which you'll never be sure that you'll sctually be able to support him, while also living in a society that is becoming progressively more oligarchic and stratified in nature.

I guess birthrate will skyrocket in a few generation, once the memory of post-WWII prosperity will vanish and when the misery that is now creeping on us will be fully internalized.

What? These people want relationships like they had in the 1950's, but they are too anti-social and edge lord even to bother going to Church where they could meat a like minded woman who wants to have lots of babies and be a good Christian.

I mean fuck. Do you really expect to meet throw back woman on Veeky Forums? Fuckers need to be religious. Go to church or convert to a religion that has arranged marriages.

You people are too unmotivated.

>Privilege
>Incel
Huh? Look you faggot. I'm not the most attractive person in the world but I just don't think people of both genders, including nerds, would find it so hard to get laid and even more importantly (more in the case of girls) be able to get into a long lasting relationship with a person who cares about them if maybe they did a little self reflection and also lowered their standards. I have seen plenty of nerds and less beautiful people who are able to live happy lives together with similar interests.
But I guess screw me for going outside and observing how people think and behave I guess.
This is getting painfully obvious that it is not a Veeky Forumsrelated thread now btw.
suit yourself, user.
Mom or some other crazy cunt abused you? Still stands. You can't let it drag you down for ever. I know it's hard but it's as irrational as women who do the same because "no daddy ='[" or he abused them.

>These people want relationships like they had in the 1950's
I'm really not sure how to explain we don't want relationships with women, reddit. I don't want a traditional wife, I want all women dead.

Who said anything about love?

What number?

I was talking to that guy who didn't want to fuck prostitutes.

I mean technically either way you are paying for sex so why not just be upfront about it.

Blaming women for not fucking you for free is autistic.

If being gay is a choice, why don't you just have sex with men?

Who says I don't?

Are you arguing that women can not have desire?

You believe in arranged marriage? I mean by all means ask your parents to hook you up then idk...I don't think all men or the women are always happy with those marriage and it usually comes down to we need to stay together because our parents invested so much into this(Indian weddings are huge add expensive affairs) so let's try to make it work or pretend even if we are miserable as fuck. In theory, I guess it preserves marriage often but don't you think sometimes it goes to far and pushes people to their limits?
And wtf is incel? I looked it up and it seems like some Reddit bullshit. And you guys like to accuse others of browsing that site?

Maybe.

Oh so you're a psychopath then? Why didn't you just say so? I wasn't sure if you were just trolling to get a reaction.
I really don't know what else to say then but just know most of the world isn't going to conform to your beliefs so might as well kill yourself now or get over it and continue fucking dudes. Gay marriage is legal now anyway.

>most of the world isn't going to conform to your beliefs
It doesn't have to.

>hating the psychopathic sex makes you a psychopath

Nah. Both men and women can be prostitutes.

Some rich old women have boy toys.

Ok. That doesn't change much. There is already the science to splice genes from two egg cells to initiate the "fertilization" reaction in women with out actual sperm. It just needs to be perfected and should take too long.
But you're right, at worst men that hate women like you and women that hate men will be able to have kids without ever having to associate with the opposite sex. Meanwhile, as many people are heterosexual, mentally stable, and seek companionship from the opposite sex for marriage and raising a family, they will continue to have kids the old fashion way. Seems like win-win, though I feel aritificial wombs will be perfected much later.

Kek
Do you know the meaning of psycopathy ? It's actually a nonscientific version of antisocial personality disorder with varying degrees of lack of remorse and conscience.
you haven't proven that all women are pscyhopaths except with nonsensical arguments and stormfaggotry. All you have proven is you are one.
While the disorder is rare, Men are actually 3x more likely to suffer from it than women according to the DSM, but yeah I'm sure you're not biased at all. I mean when was the last time you heard a woman making such a threat to all men? More so when was the last time you saw a woman go through with it?
Really makes you think.
Anyway this thread is turing into shit. Fast.

>While the disorder is rare, Men are actually 3x more likely to suffer from it than women according to the DSM
Considering DSM was composed by Dr. Amanda McRoastie from the University of Muh Cunt I wouldn't put too much faith in it.

oddly enough you managed to pop out of some roastie's cunt too and nobody is putting faith into anything you say either, so maybe you're onto something

all that crap is basically ruining society

Even the latest version(DSM 5)?
I thought many feminists dislike the DSM in general and were especially mad about that one; apparently it was biased as men were more likely to be diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder while women with borderline personality disorder based on the definition. Same thing with austim.

They think it is all bases on gender stereotypes of both genders. Yet they didn't say anything about men also being more likely diagnosed with narcisim. I think they are just being full of it imo though.

Hypergamy is dysgenic. Sarah had 5 partners in the last year and she is now pregnant. Pregnancy greatly reduces Sarah's social leverage and freedom, but the more poor she is, the more likely she is to have babies often anyway. This implies hypergamy overreproduces the scum over the elite. Let's talk about polygamy then. Polygamy implies women will be extremely picky and share the best males they judge for reproduction. Polygamy obviously leads to fatherless babies, and the more poor the women, the more likely they are to pop up more babies as well. Polygamy implies no female selection, which would lead to poor genes in a few generation, while monogamy requires a both female and male selection. As for evidence, see how polygamy animals do against monogamy races ie. lion vs tiger, and r-K selection.

>women are psychopathic
That is objectively false. It's been observed that women are more prone to emotional empathy.

sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278262608000055
psycnet.apa.org/journals/bul/84/4/712/

And wait, now I definitely know you have no idea what you're talking g about. Not only are you ignorant of the current controversy surrounding the DSM and feminists, you think it was a woman who invented it meanwhile it was a psychiatry committee headed by a male psychiatrist....
Only the current presidents of the association are women.

Reality is however different. Mathematics implies that for every woman of good genes there is a man of good genes, and that since women select men before men select women, men are actually even better genetic creatures, that is, there are more good men than there are good women. This is the price of being able to pick mates.

> implying 9-10/10 burger female even exist

>women are more prone to emotional empathy
Hahahahah oh wow
>literally UNABLE to comprehend the benefit of anything that doesn't benefit them directly
>incapable of self-secrifice
>empathy
"No"

>LINDA Rueckert, NICOLETTE Naybar
>(((Hoffman)))
Sounds like a super credible source.

A BNWesque social order is basically inevitable.

What a stupid comeback. A hypothetical girl having a high number of sexual partners doesn't even entail that a hypothetical guy's number is low so it's a shitty comeback if it's meant as "lol you rarely get laid!", A guy could have slept with 40 girls while a girl could have slept with 41 guys and the "higher than yours" premise would still apply, which not only wouldn't make the guy seem unsuccessful with women but wouldn't even make her less of a slut in his view.

My thoughts: Many of the people(mainly men) who claim to be more negatively affected by this are socially inept or autistic; people who would have been shunned in the past anyway(the latter even more since no one knew autism was and all it's spectrums until the mid 20th century and then early 2000s). People were less sympathetic to mental disorders unlike now so if you had "social anxiety" expect no one to give a fuck and just blame you for it. Otherwise, the issues solved by men and women. Lowering their standards and realiizing they are not entitled to an attractive mate. Attraction is fleeting anyway, find someone who is like you in interests and personality.

As for pic related, it's retarded for any woman to get mad at a guy who doesn't want to marry you when you sleep around alot. It's their opinion on what they want. Women(Christians) do this to men too. They just want to sleep around a lot and force agree with their lifestyle. While I'm sure there are some guys who don't give a fuck, and that's fine, don't expect every guy to do the same. Why would anyone , man or woman marry a person who slept with 30 or more by the time they are 20? Were you a prostitute at some point in your life? People don't go into puberty until like 12 really.
It's natural for people to feel like you don't take relationships and commitment seriously. There are double standards yes, but once you get to high levels like I mentioned, gender doesn't matter anymore. It's just sloppy.

>implying there aren't a thousand broke ass hoes out there that look just as good but lacked the social skills and business acumen to translate those looks into a fortune.

>Feelings over facts

Self-sacrifice for what? Friend? Family? Honor? An idea? Many women will sacrafice everything for their children or their family members so they can be safe or happy.
The thing is this male idea of "honor"(which I assume is what you are speaking of) is just one way of looking at the world.and it is biased to say it is the only correct way to look at the world.
the honorable to do, is not always the "nice or kind thing to do" sometimes it can be down right cruel or vicious.

>It was expected that European nobility men would fuck mistresses
Now THAT'S a modern meme.

He doesn't know this because he doesn't get out much, user. Nor does he interact with people, let alone the opposite gender.

Sure, let's ignore the empirical data.

>LINDA
>NICOLETTE
Yes user, women exist.
> ((()))
That's not even a Jewish last name.

Since no one has any arguments, I'll just be on my way.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

You can't scientifically quantify empathy you dumb cunt brain.
>That's not even a Jewish last name.
Yes it very much is.

ITT:

>He acts like Veeky Forums is is safe space
>Like he belongs here and isn't just trespassing
Cute.
Wait so how do you know that women don't have empathy and that men do have empathy? Like wtf? This thread is a joke just for circle jerking psyxhos who hate women. Should have known from the OP pic. Fuck off.
Thread REPORTED.

>This thread is a joke just for circle jerking psyxhos
>Like wtf?
>Thread REPORTED.
BACK
TO
REDDIT

What? That is the opposite of what is going on think this thread.
It's just a circle jerk. No one even agrees with the pic related in OP. She is obviously a cunt who wants to dictate how everyone should react to her life style. That is not how life works.

You don't belong on this board. You don't argue with facts or historical relevance.
YOU go back to where ever you came from before I report all your posts so hopefully you and your brethren can banned. Fucking summer and edgy teens. CHRIST!

>He acts like Veeky Forums is his safe place
Not at all sweetie, I'm just telling you that nobody cares that you're leaving the thread.
You ARE leaving the thread right?
:^)

>666
>modcucking
Satanic woman trying to fuck with my head. Murder yourself.

>implying the average Veeky Forumstorian isn't an underage burger

Wasn't that , user you faggot.
I was just making. Statement
No seriously though get off this board you contribute nothing of value but "muh feels" and irrational emotions(in you case anger).

>accuses others of safespacing while simultaneously reporting everyone she doesn't like
Nice self awareness cunt.

>Simultaneously reporting emotional faggots who contribute nothing of value to this thread let alone this board but tantrums and psychotic outbursts.
ftfy

You okay honey?
You seem a little upset, I mean you didn't even bother to check the formatting, grammar, or spelling of your post before you clicked submit.

Try not to post when you're going through an emotional crisis, you only bring down the board quality when you do.

So YOU can't handle the heat and YOU want this board to be your safe. Fuck off cunt, women aren't welcome on imageboards and never will be.

What heat? there is no argument going on here but stormfaggotry and feelings.You shun all facts; that's why the other user left. This thread is pure autism. That's not "heat" but nonsensical drivel. Screw me for wanting to keep up quality intellectual discourse on this board right?
Then fine I give up. Veeky Forums was in fact a mistake.

>stormfaggotry
>implying stormfags don't love their whyte princesses and don't want to protect them like the beta white knights they are

2 seconds on google will tell you that Hoffman is a common German surname.

Why are you still arguing.? just leave the thread. It's not Veeky Forumsrelated and no one is offering any rational arguments backed by facts.

Is it possible to be in an open relationship, and take the other person seriously? I feel like as soon as I know she's banging another dude, her value to me is going to plummet and start the decay of our relationship.