Fucking hell, I can't take it anymore. The stock market is going to crash in the next months, and I want out. How do I diversify? >permanent portfolio Promising, but I want do decrease my exposure to stock by more than 75%, and are the other constituents good for this specific market climate? >crypto Extremely unstable, Bitcoin has the chain split problems and I don't want a large portion of my net worth in any crypto. >raw materials Fucking terrible, look at what happened in 2008. This is not a good investment if you believe the economy will suffer a downturn. >long bonds (7-20 years) Again, is it a good investment in this market climate? How did the longer bonds fare during the 2008 crash? I can't find any information, my brokerage doesn't have any ones with that long history. >gold Difficult/expensive to invest in unless you're okay with having non-allocated gold. Otherwise decent.
Gold and long bonds seem fine, is there anything else I should consider?
Well, presuming you're not in a shithole country bonds are fine. What makes you think that the stock market is going to crash?
Chase Sanchez
it's primed to crash, It has before and it will again, Just a matter of what the trigger will be.
Evan Edwards
True, BTC is basically a more unstable version of gold. But I don't want a large portion of my net worth in any crypto, and BTC right now has large problems. Yes, precious metals in general seem like they could be good. Looking at the graphs, extrapolating. Banks can crash, it's not given that I'm buying only gov't bonds. I'd buy foreign bonds anyway, my country is too small to have interesting bonds for purchase.
Hudson Carter
If you're confident that a crash is coming, why not buy bear funds? I.e. HDGE and the like that bet against the market. You may also want to consider low end consumer product manufacturers and retailers, as if a recession comes, people seek cheaper products. Treasury notes are also an option if you just want to park your assets and ride out a storm.
Parker White
The fees tend to be exorbitant and you have unlimited downside, but I might want to take a small short position. No leverage and
Oliver Jenkins
Where can I find the price (not interest rate) of the t-notes/t-bonds?
Ryan Hernandez
Fed bonds did well, better than the local gov't bonds, keep in mind insolvency is still a risk. But remember fed interest rates could fall following a recession. Low grade corp bonds generally do better because their yield increases with the higher degree of risk. Walmart got hit but in comparison to industry peers they did rather well. Link is a list of closing prices from 07- present >tinyurl com/wmt-closings Stock price took a hit of 25% or so but did rebound in the following couple years The price is determined at auction and varies based on the yield. Currently you could get 2.22% yield on about $100 (US t bond)
Easton Barnes
I should clarify that "low grade corp bonds did better" in comparison to high grade corps.
Andrew Rodriguez
Where can I see auction price history for federal bonds? I can't find anything on Yahoo Finance or my brokerage.
Connor Williams
Assuming this is what you're looking for regarding the long bond data.
Thy are talking about a coming crash even on Bloomberg...
IMHO farmers will become rich when shit goes down. If you can't buy a tractor - buy some non-teminator seeds.
Bentley Bennett
The trouble with long bonds is they are very sensitive to interest rate changes. A good rule of funds is to look and the bond or bond fund's duration. For every 1% market interest rates increase, the value of the bond will fall by the (duration in years)%. E.g. if rates go up 1% a 30-year bond will decrease in value by 30%. Interest rates are at the lowest in history with not much scope for decreasing further.
Grayson Ward
PER ratio suggests stock market won't crash anytime soon.
Levi Gomez
Fuck, you're right about that. So I should stay away from bonds too. What else is there? see
James Carter
If you have a decent amount buy some cheap properties and take the rent pill
Angel Davis
Your portfolio needs to embrace multiculturalism? One word: Bancor.
David Clark
Bitcoin faggot. When the stock market falls or war comes, crypto prices soar to the fucking moon.
Jace Sanchez
Yeah but that analysis is flawed. You never lose money on a treasury unless you sell.
The US gov will pay you on time and give back your principal
Angel Garcia
it can crash tho read about USA bull market
Hudson Torres
It's illegal to rent out stuff in my country unless you're charging Socialist Rents™. I was considering bitcoin, but what's going on now with blockstream is too worrying. I'd buy them via an ETF or something, I just want something to invest in that isn't the stock market.
Levi Williams
My grandparents just gave me $500 through Scottrade to start investing with.
I don't know what I'm doing and how I should start if the market crashes.
Joseph Young
short cyclicals, long defensives thank me later long silver, short banks with heavy net short exposure to silver. in the risk-off theme with increasing volatility PMs will need to reduce risk exposure.
