>top headlines in the news for months >constant stories of what a massacre and struggle for troops it is >on CNN and other mass media daily >20 page long Wikipedia summary for some reason >grand total of 12k dead combatants on both sides combined
What the fuck? This would hardly even be a skirmish in 2nd World War. When are some actual battles going to happen in the world?
Cooper Powell
Air power, rockets and nuclear weapons mean that large scale battles will never happen again.
Aiden Nelson
It's a "the significance of a battle or event is determined by its body count" episode.
Archduke assassination? What's the big deal? Like, only 2 people died! WTF?
Jack Phillips
>12k dead combatants on both sides That's pretty deadly by modern standards.
Jeremiah Bailey
I mean the entire 2003 invasion had about 12k combat fatalities, the "Battle of Baghdad" 2k.
Mason Roberts
Well Ferdinands' assassination isn't called the Battle of Franz Josef Street, it's just called an assassination
Jacob Perry
BAGHDAD (AP) -- Here are some statistics that illustrate the scope of the fight that wrested the northern Iraqi city of Mosul from the Islamic State group and the legacy of the wider war against the militants.
252 -- The number of days Iraqi forces have been fighting inside Mosul. U.S. Central Command has described the fight as the most significant urban combat since World War II. Iraqi troops first punched into Mosul's easternmost neighborhood of Gogjali on Nov. 1, then later pushed west across the Tigris River. Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi finally declared victory on July 10 after making similar announcements in prior days despite ongoing clashes.
818,238-- The number of people who have fled Mosul, once a city of around 2 million people, and surrounding areas since the assault began in October until July 4, the latest U.N. figures available. Of those, 678,177 fled from western Mosul, the site of the heaviest bombardment and fiercest fighting.
3,351,132 -- The number of Iraqis across the country who remained displaced by violence in the fight against IS as of June 30, according to the U.N. migration agency . As Iraqi forces have retaken territory from the militants, more than 1,952,868 people have been able to return home. Of those still displaced, the vast majority are from Nineveh province, where Mosul is located. Some 700,000 are sheltering in camps, while the rest are living with extended family or in rented housing.
14,039 - The number of civilians with injuries treated in hospitals and field clinics
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on the outskirts of Mosul. The number counts only those who made it to those facilities. Thousands more civilians are estimated to have been treated inside the city. Hundreds are estimated to have been killed in Mosul during the operation, though no exact toll is known.
774 - The number of Iraqi security forces killed in the Mosul operation as of March 2017, according to Gen. Joseph Votel, the head of U.S. Central Command. He added that the 4,600 Iraqi troops were wounded. Iraq's military does not release death tolls, but many of the Iraqi units leading the fight have reported attrition rates of 25 percent and higher.
5 - The number of U.S. service members who have died in Iraq since the start of the campaign against IS in 2014. The most recent death was that of 1st Lt. Weston C. Lee with the 82nd Airborne Division. The 25-year-old from Bluffton, Georgia, died in April when a roadside bomb detonated while he was on patrol outside Mosul.
4,354 -- The estimate of the number of civilians killed in U.S. coalition airstrikes in Iraq and Syria from the start of the campaign two years ago until July 4, according to Airwars, a United Kingdom-based research organization that monitors airstrikes. The Pentagon has acknowledged at least 484 civilians killed in airstrikes.
4,356 -- The number of residential and commercial buildings in Mosul severely damaged or destroyed as of June 16, according to a survey of satellite imagery by U.N. Habitat. The large majority -- more than 3,000 -- were in the western sector of the city, where entire blocks were levelled by airstrikes and bombardment. U.N. Habitat notes these numbers cover only the damage visible in satellite imagery.
$50 billion - The amount of money Mosul's governor says will be needed to remove explosives and rebuild the city over the course of five years. As the Iraqi government struggles with an economic crisis, local Iraqi leadership in provinces retaken from IS are largely relying on money from the United Nations
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and other international donors.
22,671 - The number of airstrikes the U.S. led coalition has carried out in Iraq and Syria from Aug. 8, 2014 to June 21, according to the Pentagon . Airstrikes proved to be the critical factor in the conventional fight against IS, enabling forces on the ground to slowly retake territory after IS exploded across Iraq and Syria in 2014.
40 percent - The size by which Iraq's Kurds have increased their territory since 2014, according to HIS Jane's, a London based research group. The peshmerga fighte
Jonathan Garcia
ISIS only had 50,000 soldiers at their height.
Gabriel Bailey
25 years desu
Ryan Phillips
people have this tendency to equate big battles with decisive effect why isnt quatre bras isnt as talked about as waterloo why isnt smolensk or kiev talked in the same light as moscow swath 10 to skarbjna kaman 99 to operation badr hurtgen forest to the ardennes offensive 1st marne to somme rorke's drift to isandlwana port arthur to tsushima lake trasimene to cannae salamis to thermopylae philippine sea to leyte gulf
Jackson Rogers
>What the fuck? This would hardly even be a skirmish in 2nd World War. Welcome to modern warfare.
Landon Martinez
ppl dont fight anymore
contact, call airstrike avoid suicide bomber get blown up by IED
shoot shoot shoot at nothing
Noah Sullivan
>>grand total of 12k dead combatants on both sides combined user you donĀ“t know shit. >Fallujah +/- 2000 killed >La-Drang 2000 killed >Dien bien Phu 10.000 killed
12k is quite a lot
Cooper Morgan
It started with the vietnam war. Millions of bullets wasted for every single kill. Booby Traps, IEDs, tunnels, hit and run attacks, calling in air / artillery support and try to blow the enemy to pieces.
And that hasn't changed in all those years when a modern country is involved. Two undeveloped countries / groups throw their men at each other and who's left wins. Modern countries or undeveloped countries with support of a modern use technology for warfare and try to overpower the enemy with superiors weapons and not sheer manpower.
Eli Lopez
This isnt the 1940s user. Modern weaponry limits the number of fighters either side would throw into a fight.
Mosul and Grozny are two of the biggest urban battles in decades.
Matthew Robinson
Nah, something will go wrong at one point and the blood debts owed by each side will mean nothing short of total war.
Leo Myers
>literally maybe 1000 ISIS "soldiers" (basically a bunch of fucking guys dusted with a thin spread of actual hardcore fighters) >takes 100,000 Iraqi troops nearly a year to take back most of one large-ish city >mfw even when the Iraqi military is winning it's a piece of shit
what the fuck is wrong with Iraq's forces? they've been absolute garbage seemingly since forever, even by Arab standards
Joseph Harris
High level of direct information (internet), lot of journalists, ideological crusade, world is at peace so people are bored.
Jack Baker
>Victory in Mosul is closer than ever! Literally the last 9 months of news
Jonathan Russell
They were quite competent during Iran-Iraq war.
Cameron Roberts
>They were quite competent during Iran-Iraq war. >competent >competency >in the Iran-Iraq war >By any side Absolute toppest of all keks.
Brandon Turner
Kobani was much more intense and it had even fewer participants. Rojava gave ISIS a whooping like no other.
Wyatt Perez
They could just shell the whole city, then move in and shoot everything that moves but they are not allowed to do that. Therefore battle keeps on because they need clear every damn block and avoid killing civilians.
Luke Adams
Have you actually studied the war? Competent is not a word I'd use to describe Iraqi doctrine and military organization.
Colton Smith
why would you want more people to die?
Adam Bailey
Only 4,435 Americans died in the Revolutionary war. Didn't seem that we fought that hard and the British cared that much.
Cameron Diaz
Just gib isil some nukes
Jaxson Stewart
thats like a day on somme or stalingrad
Ryan Fisher
Autism from playing paradox interactive games
Dominic Howard
Oh wow two of the largest battles in the history of humankind, better judge literally every proceeding battle to their improbable standards.