If you lived in interwar, Weimar era Germany which political faction would you have supported?
I personally would have gone with the National Socialists pre-Hitler. And the National Bolsheviks after Hitler had betrayed the party by sucking bourgeoisie cock he completely forgot about "class unity".
Hitler was essentially right, but premature. Let Stalinism rule Europe for a few decades and all Western European nations would be like Poland and Hungary now, hating communism and Jew-wise. Then we could be exploring deep space by now.
Brandon Richardson
No knowledge of future events, only information you had available to you at the time
William Cruz
Then probably Hitlerian national socialism.
Nathan Rodriguez
The SPD was always right.
They could have prevented both world wars and the cold war, if only they were listened to.
Nolan Wright
What does hating communists and Jews have to do with space faring?
Literally any party but Hitlerist Nat Soc would have prevented WW2.
Nicholas Campbell
A DNVP-led Germany would probably have stirred up some shit sooner or latter and started a war.
Grayson Williams
> Stabbing the KPD when literal RIGHT WING DEATHSQUADS are maurauding in the back is "right".
Parker Anderson
>killing communists in the name of Social Democracy >not the literal definition of right
Jayden Gutierrez
They hold humanity back.
Mason Jackson
SPD is the only correct answer.
Do they even teach you in your shitty school about Molotov-Ribbentrop pact?
Benjamin Reyes
>the people who got humans into space in the first place held humanity back user pls
John Cook
I'm Catholic so probably Zentrum.
Kayden Williams
The Russians?
Camden Wilson
So what you're saying is the whole "Christians/Catholics are cosmopolitan, self-hating, traitors" is, infact, true?
Parker Wood
This so much.
Anthony Cruz
It's true that you are uneducated moron who doesn't even know what was Zentrum.
Easton Thompson
>I personally would have gone with the National Socialists pre-Hitler. And the National Bolsheviks after Hitler had betrayed the party by sucking bourgeoisie cock he completely forgot about "class unity". This.
Julian Adams
What is it with you virgin faggots and revealing your "le sci fi" nerd bullshit powerlevel?
Hudson Perry
I would be a national socialism supporter, most likely. While I may support the national socialism that Strasser preached early on, once the economy tanked and the Nazi campaign got into full swing, I would likely end up siding with them. When you can't put food on the table, you're going to vote for the guy going all around the country in full-campaign mode saying he is going to make it all better. Hitler, whether you like him or not, was a great speaker who could enchant a crowd. He knew what to say, said it right and got elected. With no foresight and only the circumstances given to me at the time, Hitler wouldn't be a bad choice.
Jace Reed
>Literally any party but Hitlerist Nat Soc would have prevented WW2. Would it really? The military was secretly rearming itself well before Hitler was on the scene. There was a sizable portion of the population with conservative (by conservative I mean supporting the monarchy, Junkers, and militaristic values pre-Weimer) leanings who wanted nothing but to get out of Versailles and regain lost lands. I think some form of WW2 happens in one way or another with Germany at the center.
Noah Williams
Real Badasses.
Isaiah Davis
Natsocs. BUt only if i didnt knew ahat ww2 would lead too. I mean i would do anyhting to make germany win ,
Ryder Wood
I would have likely been with the communists but then i would probably join the strasserists later on due to nationalism
KPD is the only way to be. Save Germany from the wretches of Capitalism
Connor Allen
I would be a fan of hindenburg I would not like Hitler I would probably not be a resistance fighter or anything like that, I would however be very vocal of my dislike of Hitler would prolly end up with me being put in some camp once he gets into power I would be anti war Is there any centre party ? Id vote for them
Ethan Ramirez
kill urself
John Lee
Fuck off to /pol/ retard.
Go move to these "based" countries like Poland or Hungary, if they're so great why any sane person would rather live in France?
Btw, Jews barely have any influence at all in Europe. In the US sure, they are present, but it's only natural as a fuckton of the Jews migrated there in the past. Still, their role is marginal.
Justin Cooper
Christian party
Matthew Miller
In 20 years all urban areas in France will be brown shitholes like in America.
Zachary Hughes
No, in 20 years France will still be a far more livable country than "based" shitholes like Poland.
And no one cares about projections out of your ass.
Jaxson Morgan
France is going to keep collapsing until it descends into a reach/holy war that spreads throughout Europe.
Levi Morgan
DNVP, get Wilhelm III on the throne rather than his nutty old dad. Under him, Germany would be able to reclaim all its lost territories without being stupid enough to provoke an impossible to win war like Hitler did.
Jackson Murphy
What a bunch of lads.
Matthew Cooper
Well, what WERE the actual factions running around interwar Germany?
Jeremiah Rogers
Commie
Easton Moore
You're making me sad with this shit, how can /pol/ produce such morons.
Thomas Lewis
If you don't know then ur opinion doesnt really matter
Carter Jenkins
None. I probably wouldn't give a shit about politics just like now.
That said, i'd keep to myself, try not get on anyone's bad side and try to survive when the war comes. Then after war is over i'd live a comfy life thanks to a post-war Wirtschaftswunder.
Elijah Torres
I'd be part of the Bavarian People's Party. Which is a right wing pre vatican ii catholic party
Isaiah Harris
>Not moving to Poland >OP talking about political groups like it's fucking pledge week.
Christ.
Christian Smith
Poland was poorer than Germany.
Luke Cook
Wow, that's pretty stark. I thought Hitler was most popular in Bavaria/Munich?
Xavier White
So many retarded Nazis.
>Veeky Forums More like /pol/. What a joke.
Parker Walker
Nobody is emigrating to the US?
Isaac Kelly
Ernst Thalmann's
Austin Bennett
NAZBOL
Jeremiah Thompson
DVP is literally the right option desu.
Switzerland, at the latest in 1933
Josiah Cox
>No, in 20 years France will still be a far more livable country than "based" shitholes like Poland. If current trends continue, lol nope.
Oliver Sullivan
K P D P D
Caleb Ross
In all honesty, I would have likely found certain aspects of the National Socialist party appealing, but I would have ultimately supported one of the regular right wing factions. The National Socialists would have appeared to be too authoritarian and anti-Semitic, if I knew that about them at the time. I am Christian, and economically and socially conservative, and some of my ancestry is Jewish.
Carter Collins
This desu. Democratic Communist Germany would have saved the world from WW2
Ethan Campbell
USPD (socialist party) >No knowledge of future events, only information you had available to you at the time KPD (communist party) KPD was way, way too Stalinist. We would have seen WWII with Germany and USSR vs. the capitalist west. >Is there any centre party ? Id vote for them Zentrum was literally the most popular party throughout the 1920s.
Xavier Torres
Catholic centre party because I'm a catholic right of centre that believes in nobility and monarchy
Jack Robinson
>democratic KPD wasn't democratic. They were nothing more but Stalin's agents. Comintern was full controlled by the Soviets.
Gabriel Ward
BVP was the Bavarian party.
Juan Morales
DDP because giving your vote to a non-extreme, pragmatic and democratic party was literally the only not retarded thing to do at that time
Brandon Walker
>saved the world from WW2 Are you retarded? They would probably buttfuck all of europe alongside with soviets. Or would provoke british/french intervention just after election, which would piss off soviets.
Henry Diaz
>Democratic Communist Oxymoron.
Ethan Robinson
All of communism =/= Leninism
Benjamin Wilson
When has communism ever veen implemented democratically? Even the anarchist experiment in Catalonia and the Paris Commune have been totalitarian.
Jacob Lewis
No, those were anarchist.
Ayden Hernandez
They are supposed to share the same goal of a society with communists. Anyway, the point still stands, communism has never been implemented democratically.
Luis Baker
Yeah but we were talking about a hypothetical scenario of the KPD gaining widespread support in Germany. That would have been a communist party put into power by democratic votes.
James Walker
Being elected is not the be-all and end-all of democraticness though.
Elijah Anderson
Probably SDP, my family were hardcore (Swedish) social democrat supporters if you go back in time. For example there was an actual argument/conflict over the fact that one of my older relatives was together with a snobby, higher middle class man who voted for one of the right wing parties. Today it's more general political apathy though.
Hudson Peterson
Seeing what your country is enduring is awful, man. Hope things turn better.
Hudson Walker
Absolutely this.
Gabriel Robinson
KPD for sure
Xavier Gray
Without foreknowledge, either DVP, since that would be my current affiliation or KPD, since it would be different circumstances and I would've probably reacted well to them.
with foreknowledge, DNVP. Keep my head low for 12 years, as a non-member of the NSDAP, less flak from the allies
Jackson Sanders
Wer hat uns verraten?
Brody Wilson
This tbqh
Wyatt Brooks
Salvador Allende was democratically elected to the Chilean presidency in 1970, HOWEVER, that was by plurality only. The Christian Democratic Party formed a coalition with his other opponents (pretty much everyone) to oppose him and jump start the coup that put Pinochet in power in 1973. I'm not too sure about this, but I don't think Allende got very far with implementing a Marxist state in Chile in those 3 years. Whether or not it counts as "democratically elected communism" is up to the eye of the beholder. To me, even though Chile wasn't transformed into a state like the USSR or Cuba, it serves as probably the only example of a democratically elected Marxist in history.
Oliver Parker
I would just move to America.
Luke Peterson
SPD
Ryan Fisher
No. No. No. A million billion times no. First of all, Marxists taking over Weimar Germany is about as plausible as Hitler bending the knee to Versailles. Most Germans in the 1920's and early 30's saw the Nazis in the same light as they saw the communists: A bunch of violent radicals who would lead the country to destruction. However, the majority of the political parties of Germany were centrist, center-right, or just plain right wing. Among these were the old conservatives who wanted to see the monarchy reestablished, nationalists/militarists who wanted Germany to regain her former glory, and the middle class and industry, who did not want to see any form of Marxism in Germany. Even Paul von Hindenburg, who saw Hitler as a tyrant and wanted nothing to do with him, saw the Nazis as a better alliance than the communists. He even wanted to fire his chancellor after the 1932 Presidential election, where Hindenburg was elected on a pro-socialist/worker agenda, which he detested deeply.
So not only would the political climate never even allow for the KPD to take power in Germany, but even if it did, the war would still go on. With a communist Germany and USSR, it is likely the other Eastern European countries like Poland would fall red, yielding a map that resembled that Cold War Iron Curtain + a full (not partitioned) communist Germany. The other European countries + the U.S. would be fully opposed to them. Japan, due to territorial disputes with the USSR that came long before their march across the Pacific, would likely either stay as a third party fighting the USSR itself or align with the Allies. They would have to, starting at the French-Germany border, have to fight both the German and Soviet military and make it to Moscow. That would make for a still very bloody WW2.
Charles Barnes
You're a fucking retard if you think people didn't switch allegiances or form splinter groups within political parties.
Also why the fuck would you move to Poland it was even worse there.