Declare war on Germany and start WWII in order to defend Poland

>Declare war on Germany and start WWII in order to defend Poland
>Don't defend Poland at all
>Say you'll defend France when the Germans, now at war with you, come
>Don't defend France at all
>All allies gone, hide on your Island waiting for America to save you
What the fuck was their end game?

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Their endgame was to win. And they did.

>Don't defend Poland at all
But they did. They beat Germany after 6 years. It's not England's fault that the USSR also went in to Poland.
>Don't defend France at all
Sure they did. WTF are you talking about? Many British died in the Battle of France
>All allies gone, hide on your Island waiting for America to save you
Not really. The UK defeated the German air force in the Battle of Britain without the help of US personnel, although with US logistical help, yes.

>Don't defend Poland at all
They literally did the best they could. Real life isn't some shitty game where you can just transport an army to Poland and fight there.
>Don't defend France at all
They actually tried their best, its not their fault that the defense was bad.
>All allies gone, hide on your Island waiting for America to save you
What the fuck else were they meant to do? They were at war with all of Europe pretty much and still managed to foil German plans for their island.
>What the fuck was their end game
save the world.

>Don't defend Poland at all
Because their French Allies refused to launch any offensives.

>Don't defend France at all
Uh, thousands died defending it, mate.

>All allies gone, hide on your Island waiting for America to save you

Burma, North Africa, Syria and the East Indies.

survival mostly

Germany was kicking that ass until US and USSR came into the ring

They didn't win, America + USSR did

>They literally did the best they could
Jack shit?
>They actually tried their best, its not their fault the defense was bad
The British approved the maginot line and fled to the beaches after the first skirmishes. Their defense or lack there of is their fault.
>What the fuck else were they meant to do?
I dunno, not fuck up on such a horrific scale with previous choices as to get in that situation?
>save the world
They failed, they put the world in peril and America + Russia needed to save it.

Would they have even needed to try and survive if they didn't declare war to defend a country they weren't going to defend?

They didn't win, America + USSR did

You realize Britain actually took more beaches on D-Day and suffered higher losses than America?

>suffered higher losses
And this is "winning"?

to return with a vengeance

Germany had the initiative, but when they started slowing down the Brits had the time to pool their colonies and spies

England didn't really do much compared to America even after America pulled them out of the shit, though.

It just seems like England tried to piss off a bear, then tripped up it's friends while running away so the bear could eat them, and waited for the park ranger to come put down the mad bear.

Holy shit. this is what its like arguing with Americans. If you make it about territory, they'll move the goalposts to deathes. If you make it about deathes, they'll move the goalposts to territory.

England literally fought for a whole year alone with no promise of allied help.

England was actually the guys organizing most of America's shit until the very end

and of course there was the intelligence that made D-day possible

>Declare war on Germany and start WWII in order to defend Poland

Neville Chamberlain wasnt a hawk and was overly optimistic (which is why he was so quickly sacked)

>Don't defend Poland at all
A question you should be directing towards the French who actually had a large enough army to do so in the area.

That said the naval war and blockade started in full.

>Don't defend France at all
How so? Their initial forces were cut encircled and had to retreat to the British Isles (along with 100K of the French Army) and the French capitulated roughly a fortnight later. The British soldiers werent miracle workers.

>>All allies gone, hide on your Island waiting for America to save you

Not at all, they continued the blockade of Germany and Italy and beat them drove them out of Africa.

>What the fuck was their end game?
To win the war against a land based power as a naval based one.

You made it about deaths when you mentioned higher losses.
Not my fault you can't speak fucking English.

Like Operation Market Garden and other various disasters, yes.
I'll give them credit for D-Day, but the Brit who got that intel was literally drugged to death by his government for being gay. So the one sole Englishman that contributes to the war effort is essentially slowly executed by his government.

>but the Brit who got that intel was literally drugged to death by his government for being gay.

wft i hate Britain nao

>You made it about deaths when you mentioned higher losses.

I made it about both. I mentioned deathes more in relation to your idea the UK had no stomach to fight, when it fought the hardest of all western powers.

>refused to launch any offensives
Saar offensive maybe?

Dying most ain't much of a fight, boy.

cringe

Cracking the enigma code wasn't as important to D Day as Operation Bodyguard where the Brits managed to trick the Germans into believing the invasion was happening at Calais for 7 weeks (even thought they only expected to be able to manage 2 at most)

British Intelligence agencies wrecked the German efforts and crippled their ability to respond effectively.

Don't forget the Transport plan, in which most of the tonnage was dropped by British bombers which prevented rapid redeployment anyway.

>Saar offensive

More of a bluff than an actual offensive as despite their overwhelming advantage they were quick to to retreat and hesitant to commit

>On 7 September, in accordance with their alliance with Poland, France began the Saar Offensive with an advance from the Maginot Line 5 km (3.1 mi) into the Saar. France had mobilised 98 divisions (all but 28 of them reserve or fortress formations) and 2,500 tanks against a German force consisting of 43 divisions (32 of them reserves) and no tanks. The French advanced until they met the then thin and undermanned Siegfried Line. On 17 September, the French supreme commander, Maurice Gamelin gave the order to withdraw French troops to their starting positions;

>But they did.

When there was nothing left to defend. I'm pretty sure it means they didn't do shit no matter how you spin it. Sometimes even your country does bad things.

>Don't defend France at all
>All allies gone, hide on your Island waiting for America to save you

This really gets me. Thousands of young British servicemen gave their lives in France and in defending British civilians from attack. Sorry if I'm sounding like a special snowflake but if you want to criticize British foreign policy during WW2 then go ahead, just don't shit all over the brave young men and women who gave their lives when their country asked.

A poster who is indignant about British not being committed to the War who uses the Saar Offensive as an example of what commitment should look like can only be a troll

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA........AAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA

You didn't foil anything you drunk bastard. The Germans let you pussies escape at Dunkirk when they could have literally carpet bombed you. Hitler was being generous. BEING TOO GENEROUS AND SOFT WAS HIS DOWNFALL.

lol. That's actually a perfect analogy.

Holy kek my sides, either you guys are historically illiterate to the point of being borderline retarded or you're just trolls in a shitpost thread. Either way I'm loving it

>Declare war on Germany and start WWII in order to defend Poland
No user you are wrong

>successful economy

>took more beaches

>Fuller
Why not just use a Himmler quote or something

No it is contrived and cringe inducing

>When there was nothing left to defend.
What the hell did you expect them to do. Nobody expected Poland to go down in one fucking month. If you want to blame anyone, blame France. They're the ones who fucked up the Saar Offensive and then told Poland they didn't.

>British Intelligence
what an oxymoron

*loses empire*

The Empire had been increasingly cash-strapped since the Great War. Ending it in the way Britain did was probably the best way to make people feel relatively positive about the situation.

Partitioning the empire was a bit rushed and botched in some place honestly
And some fair bit are not done in good faith

What happened?

>losing the empire was beneficial and deliberate on England's part

The perfidy of this Albion

The Russians beat the Nazis

the eternal *nglo had but one goal, the destruction of the white race. The perfidiousness of their intelligence community made the Germans think they actually had a chance vs. the soviets, when they never did. Stalin purged every competent officer and bureaucrat by 38, gulag'ed half the fucking country before and during the war, and still managed to fucking destroy Germany, who managed to fail at taking a single one of the first real resistance points in Leningrad, Stalingrad, or Moscow. The *nglos condemned Poland, Hungary, and Czechia, all bastions of the white race, to decades of communism, so there would be no resistance to their cultural destruction of the west. Unlike their semitic brothers, the *nglos failed to account for the Americans stealing the mantle of protector of the oceanic sea trade lanes from them, and lost Empire.

>It is the 21st Century. For more than a hundred years The Anglo has sat immobile on the Golden Throne of Albion. He is the Master of Mankind by the will of the blood, and master of a million countries by the might of his inexhaustible lies. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Industrial Revolution. He is the Carrion Lord of the Commonwealth for whom a thousand Aryans are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly die.

>Yet even in his deathless state, the Anglo continues his eternal vigilance. Mighty Businessmen cross the muslim-infested miasma of the Continent, the only route between distant still important countries, their way lit by the Astroanglonomican, the psychic manifestation of the Anglo's perfidy. Vast armies give battle in his name in uncounted nations. Greatest amongst his soldiers are the Special Air Service, blood-engineered super-warriors. Their comrades in arms are legion: the British Army and countless commonwealth defence forces, the ever vigilant British police and the Web-priests of the Anti Internet Hate Crime Unit to name only a few. But for all their multitudes, they are barely enough to hold off the ever-present threat from aryans, muslims, muricans - and worse.

>To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody shadow-regime imaginable. These are the tales of those times. Forget the power of tradition and patriotism, for so much has been forgotten, never to be re-learned. Forget the promise of Empire and Glory, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the Continents, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.

The perfidious albion strikes again.

You mean

There endgame was to not lose. And they didn't.

The UK did not beat Germany, the UK survived Germany.
Soviets won WW2 in the sense that Soviets stopped Germany.
Italy was a non-issue and could not carry the european axis if Germany fell.

Japan was arguably "stopped" by America, but was already ready to surrender pre-nuking. America wanted to test bombs and remind the soviets who was in charge so they nuked them anyway.

All in all, though, when it comes to Europe UK did very little. They stood up to fascism, but they didn't do a lot to combat it. The Battle of Britain is widely regarded as an upset result and one that nobody saw coming, however even had the Luftwaffe won Operation Sealion was never really going to go ahead.

Soviets won WW2, UK survived it.
People who say UK did nothing are retarded; the UK not being able to combat the axis in an effective way at the time does not mean they "didn't do anything." There wasn't any more they could have done.

But people who imply the UK won the second World War are even worse. Soviets and American Logistics won it.

>Declare war on Germany and start WWII in order to defend Poland
Simply not true.
Germany started WW2 by declaring war on Poland.

Poland started WW2 by having the audacity to believe it has the right to exist.

Why british facism looks so stylish?

Look at Canadian economy in years 1939-1945
Canadian government borrow a lot money
and spent this money on military.
And in years 1939-1945
Wages have risen sharply in Canada.
Unemployment has fallen.
After 1945 Canada was still rich.

Eternal Angelo

The eternal anglo's endgame is always to shed other people's blood to maintain the status quo with them at the top.

This guy knows it

Blame Prussians for not assimilating them properly.

>implying Americans didn't fight in the Battle of Britain

Poland started WW2 by attacking Radio Gleiwitz

But wait there's more

>Greece remains neutral but acknowledges that Germany might invade especially after the Italian fiasco
>Promise Greeks that you'll send them armies to protect them
>Germany invades Yugoslavia and Greece because of British backed coup in Yugoslavia
>Send only a few Australian troops to Greece
>Don't defend Greece at all and retreat
>Proceed to blockade Greece causing mass starvation and famine

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name a better speech
you cunt

you can't*

it was a foregone conclusion that it was going to happen, I think the Brits were pretty smart to do it the way they did instead of trying to hold onto the colonies by force and getting repeatedly BTFO like France did.

>what an oxymoron

just like white/smart/thin americans then

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