>God gave us this land thousands of years ago >No he gave US this land thousands of years ago!
Explain to me why the religious context still matters at this point. Both sides are claiming something happened thousands of years ago, and slaughtering each other over it in the year of our lord 2017. The original generation might remember why the fight started, but now they're just killing to kill the enemy.
So how it the fix NOT as simple as "stop killing people"? What if this bullshit religious context is the ONLY thing complicating this fucking issue? Why is it still shocking people that a religion that sanctions revenge, STILL seeks revenge when you kill one of them? Explain the Israeli Palestinian conflict to me like I'm 5 and atheist.
A unique series of events resulted in Israel being able to claim the territory - primarily through the assistance of outside help. The Arabs are assmad and don't know how to take a loss
Ayden Cooper
Exactly. They are both pretty much religious fascists. The Muslims are mad because "MUHH MUSLIM ARAB LANDS CAUSE WE CONQUERED IT IN 700 AD" and Jews are mad because "MUHH HISTORICAL HOMELAND."
Jonathan Phillips
Wasn't that "unique series of events" just the reshuffling of the map lines post WWII?
Carson Sanders
That's what pisses me off the most. It's 2017 and they're still bitching about things they CLAIM their ancestors did fucking forever ago. Not only can neither side prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that their claim is accurate, neither side can use that proof to justify their actions in the here and now. Genocide, gassing, killing each other in their sleep, like there's land disputes and then there's just culturally sanctioned Purges.
How is it not as simple as, "fuck religion, show up to the diplomatic table and let's learn how to live together"?
Brayden Rodriguez
You see, Allah promised the Prophet Abraham (pbuh) that he and his descendants would have this land, forever. From Abraham (pbuh) came the Prophet Ishmael (pbuh) who the Arabs come from. We are the only ones to fulfill Allah's promise of a Kingdom, the Jews have never been able to do it. Instead they have been scattered, an accursed people who constantly kill the prophets, and claim they are superior. It's proof enough that the Jews are naive and their own God is on our side.
Aiden Wright
>Instead they have been scattered You mean kicked out of every country they ran to for REFUGE after you started slaughtering them when they refused to leave their homeland?
You're the only religion who thinks this behavior is acceptable, too. The only religion who thinks rape, murder, torture, and pedophilia is "OK" because some pedorast did it thousands of years ago and gave his friends pardons to do it too.
So taking religion OUT of this entirely, why is it so hard for you to stop killing people for the sake of them NOT killing you or your family in retaliation?
Eli Williams
It just blows my mind that pic related is still affecting our world in 2017. What's it going to take for people to realize that religion is killing more than it "saves"? Can't even prove these assholes were telling the truth! FROM A TIME WHEN THEY LITERALLY SHAT IN THEIR OWN WATER SUPPLIES for fucks sake.
Sorry, thread is dead. Let it die, along with my atheist ranting.
Blake Ward
"Palestine" never looked like that. The British Mandate was actually much bigger and wasn't being saved for Arabs exclusively.
When Israel became a state most Arabs fled their homes in the hopes that the ensuing Arab offensive would blow them up with the Israelis. Unfortunately that offensive was BTFO and then they couldn't return properly. Then they started firing rockets from schools. >cue "Jews murdered us and took our land" schtick
Zachary Davis
I see, so they formed refugee camps after they left their homes and the locations of those camps is now what determines "palestinian territory"?