Holocaust

Can I get all the proof that it happened without a shadow of a doubt?

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>can I get thousands of eye witness statements, captured documents, artefacts and sites

ALL the proof would be a big ask for actual historians, nevermind memesters on a Taiwanese bee keeping forum

Read a history book.

Would you be open for new proof or do you have some personal agenda which makes you deny proof which would be legetimate for anyone without said agenda?

ITT: /pol/ about to get BTFO once again

Statistics of German Jews before and after Nazi Germany, after considering emigrations, etc.

Can you fuck off back to /pol/ and stop making these shit threads?

Nobody cares about your obsession with Jews.

For one: not a single serious historian doubt it happened. This should be enough. And there thousands of people researching the holocaust.

>guy with ugly face has similar opinion to yours, so you're wrong
this meme has to die

t. guy with ugly face and wrong opinion

Can I get all the proof that it happened without a shadow of a doubt?

something like this OP?

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the French Revolution... Did it really happen? can I get all the proof it happened without a shadow of a doubt?

Here's a link to the trial of Adolf Eichmann were he himself confirms it happened: youtube.com/watch?v=QaN7DR8Zj5o

Type "holocaust bodies" in any image search engine and think for your self if all results are staged and fake

Here's a lot of material though the site was made by (((them))): www.yadvashem.org

Also, please note that Jews weren't the only victims of the Nazis, millions of sick people, Sinti & Roma, Gays, all kinds of dissidents and very many civilians all over Europe were murdered as well.

The problem with Eichamnn is that Holocaust deniers will always cling to "He was tortured" meme to confirm that it didn't happen, much like with Rudolf Hoss. There's no point in citing all of this if the person will refuse to accept the differing opinion. He'll either forget about this or just ignore it completely and go on with his posts as if it had never been disproven. Although I still appreciate these posts since this can help with those who are a bit more skeptical or want more info to debunk dumb shit.
You know, come to think of it. It's quite hilarious how most holocaust deniers are using the same tricks Hitler complained about Jews using in his "Mein Kampf" book.

In case anyone's interested in Hitler talking about how Jews "argue":
>Should they fail, in spite of their tricks of logic, they acted as if they could not understand the counter-arguments and feeling themselves cornered, hastily transferred the discussion to another field. They uttered truisms and platitudes; and, if you accepted these, took this acceptance as applying to other problems and matters differing essentially from the original theme.
>If you cornered them on this point they would escape again, and you could not force them to make any precise statement. Whenever one tried, to get a firm grip on any of these apostles, one’s hand grasped only a slimy jelly which slipped through the fingers, but coagulated again a moment afterwards.

>If your arguments were so telling that your adversary felt forced to give in on account of those listening and if you then thought that at last you had gained ground, a surprise was in store for you on the following day.
>The Jew would be utterly oblivious to what had happened the day before, and he would start once again by repeating his former absurdities, and if nothing had happened.

/pol/ BTFO

this

muh greatest story never ever told

Can I get a quick rundown on that? I tried watching it once but saw it was heavily edited with scrolling text and shit. Amateur as fuck, trashed it instantly.

eichmann looks very jewish himself

Guys, we have this thread every fucking week. Sage and let it die quietly.

They regurgitate a lot of nonsense, like implying Germany was entire to blame for WW1 in Versailles, when the 231 article disproves it itself:
>The Allied and Associated Governments affirm and Germany accepts the responsibility of Germany and her allies for causing all the loss and damage to which the Allied and Associated Governments and their nationals have been subjected as a consequence of the war imposed upon them by the aggression of Germany and her allies
Also IIRC they unironically mention Danzig massacre, take that with a grain of salt, though, memory's a bit cloudy.

noticed that too, many Nazis were completely ugly and short/fat whereas many of their victims and foes looked very aesthetic (no homo)

Hitler a good boi, he dindu nuffin!

The Holocaust = untermensch trying to exterminate the übermensch or The Untermensch Uprising

Them damn Jews be lying about the Führer and shit

maybe they were just mad because they were so ugly...

Didn't Goebbels walk in a fucked up way too?

yes, also he was a manlet

Really makes me think.

I think he had one leg longer than the other because of a disease he suffered as a child.

mfw surname is Goring and got called Hermann through out History class when I was at School

It's not that bad to be called Goring, could've been worse, like Hitler. [spoiler]Like me[/spoiler]

are you an obese pederast too by any chance

>Asks for proof

>Literally posts a picture

Why is this topic always 2 sided. Either it's "muh 6 gorrillion" or "muh it didn't happen but I wish it did".

>Camps intended as labour camps to collect the Jewish population until they can be moved to Madagascar.
>War.
>Massive food shortage due to shitty logistics and ally bombing.
>Anti-Jewish sentiment meant Germans took priority over prisoners for food.
>Officers had an Iron fist so prisoner mistreatment and killings were rampant.
>Typhoid outbreak.
>Lice.
>Zyklon B.
>Unable to handle the amount of prisoners nor can they handle the disease outbreak.
>Shoddy makeshift gas chambers made because muh eveil nazis were evil.
>Zyklon B convenient for job.
>Crematorium ran at full capacity.
>Crematorium too slow, calls for mass graves.
>War ends.

I might be really wrong but this seems more reasonable than the explanation in the textbooks.

lmao, are you guys related to them?

You are really wrong. For all the talk about muh allied bombing, I've never once seen any evidence of supply shipments being disrupted to camps like Birkenau or to any of the AR camps because of it, in large part because they were in Poland, both farther away from the main targets in western Germany, and less vital to the war effort.

Secondly, Zyklon B wasn't even the sole gas used to mass murder; the AR camps tended to use carbon monoxide for their poisonings.

Thirdly, the amount of cremation capacity installed in Birkenau, (pic related) would be enough to go through the entire camp population in a bit over a week. And for some reason, even after the supposed typhus epidemic killing everyone, they kept bringing in more and more prisoners, and they even tried to hold onto them when they liquidated the camp.

You had large quantities of intentional murder, all the evidence points to it.

Himmler made it pretty clear that the goal is extermination of Jews, nothing less.

Why is it so hard to accept? More brutal shit happened in the war.

>You are really wrong. For all the talk about muh allied bombing, I've never once seen any evidence of supply shipments being disrupted to camps like Birkenau or to any of the AR camps because of it, in large part because they were in Poland, both farther away from the main targets in western Germany, and less vital to the war effort.
I will need to rethink that par then.

>Secondly, Zyklon B wasn't even the sole gas used to mass murder; the AR camps tended to use carbon monoxide for their poisonings.
Never knew they used it in any large quantities. Still Zyklon B was a delouser and CM is not that specialised.

>You had large quantities of intentional murder, all the evidence points to it.
I forgot to add the fact they intentionally murdered the infected prisoners. I only implied it, I should be clearer. Wont doubt the fact that there was a lot of intentional killings.

Numbers seem to be exaggerated in some places and the reasoning behind it sounds too simplistic and reeks of post war propaganda.

That's Himmler, the man was a nut. The original plan was known as "The Madagascar Plan" but it didn't go through since the defeat at the battle of Britain.

>The original plan

who gives about "the original plan" when discussing what actually happened? Does a judge let someone go for a murder charge if they say "my original plan was to just punch them in the face!" Goering said he wished more jews were killed during Kristallnacht, I dont know why you guys pretend there wasnt even this deep hatred of jews by the nazis.

>Still Zyklon B was a delouser and CM is not that specialised.
They also kill pretty well in enclosed spaces.

>I forgot to add the fact they intentionally murdered the infected prisoners. I only implied it, I should be clearer. Wont doubt the fact that there was a lot of intentional killings.
And then they keep bringing in more and more people, even though these camps are killing thousands a day. That doesn't sound like a plan of elimination to you?

>Numbers seem to be exaggerated in some places
Based on what exactly? Why would Topf and Sons exaggerate about the crematory capacity of their own furnaces? Hell, even if they did, it implies that the Nazis who were ordering them WANTED higher cremation capacities than could in fact be achieved, which again points to wanting to murder a lot of people and dispose of bodies quickly.

> and the reasoning behind it sounds too simplistic and reeks of post war propaganda.
What? Seriously, what? Auschwitz 1's cremator could handle about 2,300 bodies a week. If they went ahead and installed more burning capacity around 1943, it's because 2,300 bodies a week wasn't enough. That doesn't ring any alarm bells to you? Especially since they decide to expand their capacity by over 1000%?

>the man was a nut
And coward on top of that. Yet he was still Hitler's top lad along with Heydrich (another atendee of the Wannsee conference).

>The original plan
In those times Nazis still had to manage their international reputation. Not to mention Madagascar plan would end up like Nazino.

>Still Zyklon B was a delouser
Nazis made a specialized version (without the warning odour) for killing people.

>I believe X is exaggerated based on literally nothing or some random rationalizations with no evidence
This is just as bad as stormfaggotry.

>. Still Zyklon B was a delouser

yeah because it was a poison gas used to kill the lice. So the obvious conclusion is that more of it could then kill a human. Theres a reason it says "poison gas" on the cannisters.

Actually, you need a lot less Zyklon B to kill people than you do to kill lice. Humans have much faster metabolisms and absorb the stuff way more easily.

>it's a lie, guise. All those ovens, shoes, glasses, bank accounts, photos, witness, writings and documents are a big hoax. It was all typhus . Be a smart, believe me.

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>Holocaust revisionist claims that the holocaust was basically a forced resort. There was nothing wrong there, they had a pool after all!
>Some people actually buy it as a truth

As John Cleese once wisely put, the problem of stupid people is that they have no idea of how stupid they are.

Can I get all the proof that the Napoleonic wars happened without a shadow of a doubt?

>dude it was no different than the jap camps in america!

Beethoven's "Eroica", perhaps.

"I commanded Auschwitz until 1 December 1943, and estimate that at least 2,500,000 victims were executed and exterminated there by gassing and burning, and at least another half million succumbed to starvation and disease, making a total of about 3,000,000 dead. This figure represents about 70% or 80% of all persons sent to Auschwitz as prisoners, the remainder having been selected and used for slave labor in the concentration camp industries. Included among the executed and burnt were approximately 20,000 Russian prisoners of war (previously screened out of Prisoner of War cages by the Gestapo) who were delivered at Auschwitz in Wehrmacht transports operated by regular Wehrmacht officers and men. The remainder of the total number of victims included about 100,000 German Jews, and great numbers of citizens (mostly Jewish) from The Netherlands, France, Belgium, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Greece, or other countries. We executed about 400,000 Hungarian Jews alone at Auschwitz in the summer of 1944"-Rudolf Hoss, commandant of Auschwitz

But they're all Jewish shills, can't you see past the smoke and mirrors and realize my arbitrary sources are the real deal that cuts through the fog like the light of God?

>b-b-b-but he was forced to say it
Oh wait, he was actually imprisoned for admitting that.

(talking about the pic)

They were worker camps and thats it

the guy who ran the camps says otherwise.
see
also, the soccer team is all British POWs and they all confirmed everything that happened there.

>Anti-Jewish sentiment meant Germans took priority over prisoners for food.

A war crime in itself.

>he actually believes "World War 2" happened

It's even named like a movie

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