Germans are united in their hatred of the French, it's the one thing they all agreed on
Ayden Collins
Perfidious Albion.
Nicholas Ramirez
>I hate krauts who disagree with me but I hate other countries even more t. Otto von Bismark.
Asher Clark
jesus what a clusterfuck
Ethan Rodriguez
They didn't think like Total War players.
And if they suddenly started conquering German areas without any justification, the German Princes would not be amused and would support the Holy Roman Emperor. And an united Holy Roman Empire was a much scarier entity than France.
Elijah Jones
Look it up. If there was a war in Europe at the times you're talking about, it was fought partly in Germany.
They were immune to invasion before the Prussians and Habsburgs centralized them.
Brandon Wood
>And an united Holy Roman Empire was a much scarier entity than France. total demography of the empire is less than France. And overall the land yields less per square meter.
Ayden Moore
They did But then they invaded Russia and lost, which cancelled all their previous conquests...
Brody Price
Couldn't they have been harsher during the Treaty of Westphalia?
Alexander Reed
Should have just waited 5 years, rebuilt a massive fleet and invaded England first instead.
Napoopleon was a gigantic retard.
Asher Reyes
Yea if only he was as smart as you
Hudson Cox
It feared the Germanic warrior.
Lincoln Nguyen
History isn't an eu4 game. They had no reason to take them out.
Isaiah Scott
The HRE was a lot stronger than most give it credit for, mostly because in the case of war declared by an outside power, the Emperor generally had no problem getting the various duchies and princedoms to contribute to the war as they all had incentive to defend the emperor and their privileges given by the HRE.
A Holy Roman Empire was quite a fearsome force once said contributions made it to the field, with Austria and the princedoms fighting off the Ottoman Empire at the height of their power under Suleiman.
It wasn't until the Reformation erupted into the 30 years war did the HRE become too divided among itself to effectively project power, but this was parallel with the rise of Brandenburg-Prussia and the strengthening of the Austrian Empire. With the Prussians taking advantage of the divided empire to attempt uniting Germany, and ironically, France's dissolution of the HRE after Austerlitz only German unification more achievable without the Imperial system keeping them in check, later leaving the Prussian/German steamrolling of France a few decades later.
Aiden Young
exactly. Too bad he wasn't. retard.
Which is why half of them kept going at war with the emperor and not listening to him nor pay him any taxes.
Mason Ramirez
Well yeah but a total war between them would be disastrous for both.
Jace Gomez
fear*
Christian Baker
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Juan Hill
>having a good old war with your bros every now and again is a bad thing
Get a load of this guy.
Lincoln Cox
HRE was big. France was strong.
So no, I don't think it was 'scarier'
The what?
Aiden Foster
>They didn't think like Total War players. Someone couldn't handle the banter.
But they did that. Look at the 30 years war, it's France bullying the Habsburgs without even declaring war for most of the time.
Ayden Gutierrez
what are you talking about? The peace of Westphalia was more or less a status quo ante bellum, who would have enforced what on whom? No block was powerful enough to win the upper hand