Why has virginity always been prized in women?

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caveman time > woman is slut > make many babby > babby hard to feed find food for babby > tribe enters crisis

>virgin on marriage night

Wew lad!

Dude. Most kids died in child birth back then and if there were too many babies they'd just leave them in the woods.

This, but to expand, due to the patrilineal inheritance of land and wealth.

Now now we have no proof Theodora was a whore. She just dressed like a whore, lived with whores, and was a profession which was considered a Whore in all but name

No one like sloppy seconds.

pregnat woman even more useless than normal woman

Goose beaks aren't dicks.

This, obviously.
Also, because you don't want to waste any resources at all on a kid that's not yours, and you want to make sure your genes have actually passed on.

This isn't it at all, you mongoloid. It's all about secure paternity

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Human nature and theres nothing post-modernists can do about it men will always find virgin women more desirable as partners than some used goods

A key that opens all locks is more valuable than a lock opened by any key.

A pencil that is sharpened too many times ends up as a nub, while the pencil sharpener has done its job well.

Men for whom sex is generally unavailable are typically drawn to the idea (but never the experience) of a virgin because of their sexual ineptness. If you ask someone who has regular sex wether they would have sex with a virgin or not, many of them if most most would say no.

It is no coincidence that virginity is prized in cultures where sexual neurosis is prevalent. Sex and virginity are not a big deal, they only put on this mysterious aura when you've been sheltered from it.

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where is the original image?

How is babby formed ?

Unquestionable paternity and maybe telegony.

>not wanting hundreds of dicks in your cheerios

What are you a fascist?

Good thing sex doesn't sharpen and shorten your dick, literally or metaphorically

>all this illiterate academia memes
Telegony is the answer
sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/10/141001090238.htm

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>If you ask someone who has regular sex wether they would have sex with a virgin or not, many of them if most most would say no.
I'm fairly certain that they're more inclined to say no in an attempt to virtue signal since prizing virginity is considered a patriarchal remnant of the dark ages and he would not like to ruin his reputation.

Congratulations, you now understand why explaining virginity with metaphors is stupid.

the castle and lock analogies are true equivalences

1: men (generally) want sex more than women, as proven by porno, fap rates, sex rates between gay men, heteros and gay women

2: so women are in higher demand sexually than they are in monogamous relationships where roughly every man is paired with a woman

3: if a woman is promiscous, then it is rational for a man to not waste time with her unless of course he is one of the most attractive men only interested in sex

So prizing virgins, or at least chasteness in the modern world, is actually a virtue in a man, it means he wants a long term relationship and isn't solely interested in sex. You can talk about male dominated societies and how men try to impose this on women with marriage, but it isn't wrong, unless you want to live in /r9k/'s nightmare where Chad gets all the girls and a proportion of men are lonely all their life.

Of course the world isn't like /r9k/'s nightmare. Most women aren't interested in being used for sex, if Chad doesn't want to commit most won't be the female equivalent of a "beta orbiter" and offer him sex whenever he wants.in the hopes he might change his mind.

I take the side of reddit in scolding /r9k/ for having high standards and a deluded view of relationships, though it doesn't change the fact that a slut isn't a desirable partner.

Of course then there are STDs, which are still a thing.

Kawaii

>used for sex

Fuck off, you can't "use" someone for sex. When I smash a bitch she wants to get smashed. Nobody is "using" anybody.

Virginity has been prized in men too. No wait thats not the proper word. Virginity has been seen as sacred in men. Ascetics hold the highest regard in most societies comparable to kings in some cases.

Caesar on the Germans:

>Their whole life is occupied in hunting and in the pursuits of the military art; from childhood they devote themselves to fatigue and hardships. Those who have remained chaste for the longest time, receive the greatest commendation among their people: they think that by this the growth is promoted, by this the physical powers are increased and the sinews are strengthened. And to have had knowledge of a woman before the twentieth year they reckon among the most disgraceful acts.

Not virginity

Abstinence

There's nothing noble about a homeless 3rd worlder "refusing" to eat food. It's different for someone who can actually acquire food.

Explaining something with an analogy, as if that automatically makes that true, is a fallacy. You are literally not explaining anything. Comparing people to objects and then explaining how those objects function doesn't actually make that function suddenly apply to human society.
Like, you can relock a lock but not a person's virginity, so why are we even discussing locks and keys?

I don't really disagree with the stuff you're saying, but lock and key stuff is the most brain dead way of rationalizing this.

This is wrong.
I think Germany is not a muslim and virgin shithole like many countries that you would expect to think like this.

But It's clear that virginity is even is desired by men of all ages, all Status and all political orientations and all cultues.

And yet she ended up being one of the most faithful, capable, and supportive empress in the history of the world, not just the history of the Roman Empire

Really activates those almonds

>having sex pares away a man's penis
Great analogy everyone knows men can only have sex ten times before their dick fades away.

t. virgin.
You are literally using her body for your pleasure you moron.

I think you are the virgin user because that is the big selling point of sex.

What the fuck are you even on about you braindead faggot?
>hurr durr i'll agree with him but claim he is wrong

And she's not using my body for pleasure? That's the SOLE reason people have sex ya dumb bitch

Only a virgin would use virgin as an insult

>im not using her because she's using me too!
Fucking brainlet virgin. Only a virgin comes on the internet bragging about smashing bitches.

No, bragging involves exaggeration and unnecessary interjection. Men naturally discuss conquests.

>i totally smash plenty of bitches you guise seriously but i'm not using their bodies at all
t. virgin

So, having sex at all and mentioning it means you're a virgin? hmmmm

When I say bitch I don't mean like in a disrespectful way if that's what you mean

>mi lady !

She and her husband ruined Rome, Italy and Africa literally because he had delusions of grandeur. He's only praised by romantic fags, and she's only praised by feminists who know her because romantic fags wrote about her husband.

TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE

I could never understand why fedoras think anytime a man has sex with a woman for any reason but "twu wuv" he's "using" her. Redditors always get their panties in a twist.

>A-All sex is rape you sexist PIGS!!
>Male sexuality is predatory and wrong!

Fucking homos the bunch of them

I'm not him or an english native speaker but how the fuck do you call her a bitch "respectfully".

Only in patriarchal societies

As if there's any other kind?

it's as simple as this

thats literally the opposite of what fedoras think, if anything they think that all women are sluts who seek to entrap innocent men

Are you insane? Fedoras are the classic atheist redditor feminist.

>Don't worry m'lady, I'm not like those sexist PIGS on Veeky Forums

>If Invade you the option, would you open a brand new soda pop, or one that had seven penises in it?

those are mgtows, they're pretty much equally bad though

>reading this post
>ny teenybopper sister says the word "cheerios" in the next room over to her friend in the phone
is cheerios the new codeword for dick

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Because it's a lot harder to remain a virgin as a woman than as a man. All a man has to do is keep his zipper closed, whereas a woman has to pray no one rapes her every single day of her life, especially during her childbearing years, AND do all the things we've been told not to do to "provoke" it.

*not* do all those things.

It's honestly harder to not rape than it is to be raped.

We cannot go alone at night, cannot expose our breasts, cannot expose our thighs, cannot go swimming alone, cannot work out in the men's side of the gym, cannot be alone with boys in a classroom without a teacher, etc.

The paternity thing and also unironically this.

For the same reason people wanted to be the first on the Moon or on the top of Mount Everest.

All other reasons like paternity uncertainty are bullshit. There is literally no reason why a virgin wouldn't cheat on you, but a non-virgin would. It's literally all about the privilege of being the only one who saw and felt her private place.

>All other reasons like paternity uncertainty are bullshit. There is literally no reason why a virgin wouldn't cheat on you, but a non-virgin would.

That's not the point, retard
The point is that a non-virgin can have fucked a guy few days before the wedding and already be carrying the child (and lie saying it was made during the wedding night)

With a viirgin, you're sure she never had sex with anyone else before and thus isnt carrying any child

So you basically still have 0 certainty that the children will definetely be yours.

Also, Hymen is not really a thing, the Vagina doesn't always bleed and sometimes it bleeds not just the first time but the first couple of times. So you literally have no way to determine if she truly is a virgin anyways.

When people say "used for sex" they're usually implying that a degree of manipulation is involved.

I feel like there are a lot of reliable subjective ways of getting a sense of it.

This is false I got raped at a sleepover by my ex I was 11

Would you prefer a nice, unopened can of soda or one that's open and has had several other men's dicks in it?

Modesty is a feminine trait that good men used to value.

Can someone explain this to me? I always though it would be pretty easy to tell if a child is your child or not.
Also, wouldn't evolution select for men that are able to recognize their own children? i.e. man realizes woman's child isn't his. Man then goes off to have a kid that is indeed his own.

this too

There's an instinctual aspect to it too, at least for me. I don't see sluts as relationship material.

Also it shows that a woman values fucking around more than being in a relationship, considering women generally have the option to do both.

Kind of like what this guy said

>I take the side of reddit

lmao please leave

this is bait, right?

Even if your rape paranoia were realistic, it would still be easy to remain a virgin considering the significant majority of people DON'T get raped.

Yes. Spinners are code for drugs too

Because men have a biological urge to exclusively pass on their own genes

See some guy one the street, look at your non virgin soon to be wife, think "someone like that stuck his dick in my wife" , be disgusted.

Simple.

Men just know virgins will be more loyal sexually I guess.

Virginity was only important for the perfumed asses of nobility in their little circles for a lot of reasons mentioned above. The common man didn't really give a shit about the purity of his wife, he cared more about how fertile she is, how loyal she is and how good around the house she is.

Keep in mind back then a couple didn't work like a typical 80s couple.

For one thing, men went to war frequently, this means there are now thousands of kilometers between the man and the woman. The woman will sleep around either because she likes cock or because she needs to, the man will sleep around either because the only pleasure he can get out of his wages is wine and whores, or because he likes raping the wives and daughters of the peasants he killed. Maybe when he returns home some army would've passed by and some solders would've raped the wife as well. Even under Christianity or Islam those things happen and you couldn't do anything about them other than go on with your life.

Also, even if times are peaceful and the couple is relatively well off, chilling on a farm there were still issues. The husband had his family and the wife had hers, chances are the marriage happened for some other ulterior motive, which, whatever it was, it was meant to link those two families together. Even if they don't get along with one another, say the wife cheated and the husband beat her, they couldn't outright divorce and if they tried to kill one another they'd start a feud between two families which could rile up the whole village. So it was heavily encouraged for the couple to just work it out, keep having kids and at least pretend you love one another. Back then, marriages meant land, food, water, wealth - life and death. Commoners had a lot of shit to deal with on a constant basis, virginity was the least of their worries.

yes but unless the real father is black, most babies look alike when they're born. By the time the "father" realizes whats going on, he's already invested years of live into the lustspawn; this makes the man THINK he can live with the fact that his wife mothered a child with another man, but in reality he will hate the child until he dies.

this

I don't care what anyone says. Female degeneracy is gross and wrong.

you're pretending that the only classes of people were nobility and urban labourers living in squalor.

in rural areas where everyone knew everyone and people followedreligious codes of conduct, of course it mattered if a potential wife had a reputation for loose, premarital sex.

we took that as seriously as muslims in muslim countries do now.

It's not like it was something tat was absent and never part of general european culture until the 20th century when it popped up out of nowhere just before being torn down by the birth control pill and contraception changing culture in the 50s and 60s.

It's not always easy. What if the child takes after the mother?

a pencil sharpener get worn and dull by sharpening too many pencils

>There is literally no reason why a virgin wouldn't cheat on you, but a non-virgin would.

but this is the case. there are studies proving that the more previous sexual partners a woman has, the more likely she is to cheat.

you're rightthat being the first does feel really good too

t. beta

People did follow religions and codes of conduct but my argument was that at the end of the day things necessary for survival and a good life were more important than virtues. All the books I've read that were set in rural environments like villages are countrysides showed this contrast between material things and virtues. People couldn't afford to be zealots or even picky for that matter. Peasants would travel to the nearest hub of trade to sell their stuff after the harvest and the brothel owners would send their girls to pick them off from the marketplace because he knew the peasants just got some cash and their wives couldn't compare to clean, shaved expert whores.

City life was like that as well for your average craftsman, landowner or artisan, they were the ones that visited the brothels most and women slept around for favors all the same. If a lord or a prestigious knight or a rich merchant visited the city, women would throw themselves at him even if the priests frowned because they knew a night with that man could change their lives.

The difference between Islam now, and in the olden times was how family worked for women. If we're christian, you marry my daughter, she cheats on you and then you kill her, I'l do my best to kill you back. If we're muslim, you marry my daughter and she cheats on you we'l stone her to death together like the best of buds.

Would you rather use a new shiny onahole or share one with Tyrone?