Don't really consider myself a leftist or anything but I don't see how he is wrong when it comes to capitalism, the United States, etc. I don't know a lot about anything though, so perhaps I'm missing something
Is Chomsky wrong about his political standpoints?
No
Nah he's pretty much spot on. One of the smartest people probably ever.
>The Republican Party is quite literally more evil than Hitler and the Nazis
He's right. Nazis were autists but you can't fully pin the blame of the war on them. Neocons, on the other hand, are actively seeking war and to fuck up foreign countries leading to millions of innocent deaths.
t. First year Uni
The republicans didn't kill 6 gorillion of Joos though.
No they killed millions of muslims for the jews instead
Bill Glindon and Obabo didn't exactly hug muslims either.
You're right. America is shit.
Not on the Nazi level though.
Everything. Especially free will
>Is Noam Chomsky wrong about anything?
Sports having no value other than preparing young men for war, and thus being government tools of oppression.
Comparing American Imperialism to Nazi Invasions for lebensraum =/= the US is literally worse in every single way
nazis had cool uniforms, american doesnt have cool anything
ITT people forgetting that Chomsky is also a linguist that published academic works about linguistics
He is an "anarchist" so don't take him very serious. good linguistic thought
People also ignore Zizek's other work, and only treat him as a failed politician.
>good linguist though
It's funny because UG is unempirical nonsense and Chomsky is one of those guys always going on about muh empiricism
America has cool anarchist memes
Neither did the nazis
I'm not well versed the specifics of what he says, but I have a hard time believing a Cambodian Genocide denier has any good political points.
From what I've seen and read, he's one of those academics who excels in one area and then thinks he's now qualified to talk about everything else. Kind of like Black Science Man, but with dangerously retarded opinions.
>is babby's first intellectual wrong about anything?
I remember being 19 too.
No one did.
Those who can't. Teach.
He appeals to the young left like the comedy shows appeal to them. They have no idea what is being said but it makes them feel smart.
What exactly do you think he was right about?
please list off your next-level intellectuals befitting your wise and learned 21-year old self.
And that is bad?
That's all he is. That's his field.
LIST OF CHOMSKY LIES
“He begins as a preacher to the world and ends as an intellectual crook.”
– Arthur Schlesinger
(Commentary, December 1969)
“Noam Chomsky skittles and skithers all over the political landscape to distract the
reader’s attention from the plain truth.”
– Sidney Hook
(The Humanist, March-April 1971)
“In his ideological fanaticism he constantly shifts his arguments and bends references,
quotations and facts, while declaring his ‘commitment to find the truth.’”
– Leopold Labedz
(Encounter, July 1980)
“Even on the rare occasions when Mr. Chomsky is dealing with facts and not with
fantasies, he exaggerates by a factor of, plus or minus, four or five.”
– Walter Laqueur
(The New Republic, March 24, 1982)
“After many years, I came to the conclusion that everything he says is false. He will
lie just for the fun of it. Every one of his arguments was tinged and coded with
falseness and pretense. It was like playing chess with extra pieces. It was all fake.”
– Paul Postal
(The New Yorker, March 31, 2003)
I. 10 Chomsky Lies About Communist Mass Murderers – General
II. 10 Chomsky Lies About Communist Mass Murderers – Indochina
III. 10 Chomsky Lies About Modern History
IV. 10 Chomsky Lies About the Cold War
V. 10 Chomsky Lies About the Indochina Wars
VI. 10 Chomsky Lies About Latin America
VII. 10 Chomsky Lies About the Nicaraguan Civil War
VIII. 10 Chomsky Lies About Terrorist Atrocities
IX. 10 Chomsky Lies About the War on Terrorism
X. 10 Chomsky Lies About Middle East Politics
XI. 10 Chomsky Lies About the Arab-Israeli Wars
XII. 10 Chomsky Lies About the Arab-Israeli Peace Process
XIII. 10 Chomsky Lies About His Collaboration With Holocaust Deniers
XIV. 10 Chomsky Falsifications – Indochina
XV. 10 Chomsky Falsifications – Other
XVI. 10 Chomsky Citations of Worthless Sources – Indochina
XVII. 10 Chomsky Citations of Worthless Sources – Other
XVIII. 10 Chomsky Numerical Distortions
XIX. 10 Chomsky Lies About Political Ideas
XX. 10 Chomsky Lies About Himself
I could post anyone whose worldview isn't embarassingly one-dimensional. An intellectual generally challenges your worldview, not make you nod your head.
Chomsky is a lendary linguist, a great media expert, an embarrassing political commentator.
Remind me: what is Chomsky's position on US involvement in the Balkans war and WW1?
>DUDE TERRORISM ONLY EXIST BECAUSE ITS SO HOT!
Hes a self hating cuck pinko retard and cambodian genocide denier. Hes the typical sociopath closet aristocratic socialist
Why does Gnome Chumpsky lie so much? What's his end game?
Is Bill Clinton a neocon?
Serious question desu, I try to not get bogged down in terminology but Bill bombed Yugoslavia when Bush abstained.
Blame America First, apparently.
please reread and follow my instructions carefully
No. Neocons are people who used to be liberals, and then switched to being Republicans. They never become Conservatives.
Trump is a Neocon. Bill Clinton remains a moderate Democrat.
Probably not. His wife espoused neocon ideology though (see her positions on Iraq, Libya, Syria). Note I'm not saying that she is a neocon. I don't think she is anything really, she just knows where her bread is buttered and doesn't have the balls to say "no" to Wolfowitz, Perle, Frum, Wurmser, Cohen et al.
So is bullshit?
>Neocons, on the other hand, are actively seeking war and to fuck up foreign countries leading to millions of innocent deaths.
Plenty of people who wouldn't be described as neocons are interventionist and even warhawks, so at the very least to pretend this is specifically neocon behaviors is disingenuous.
Doesn't the american left kick up a fuss about Trump figures because they're isolationist? I don't want this to stray into the present but just the other day American liberals and centrists were getting there nickers in a twist about Trump shutting down the CIA programs that armed and trained Syrian rebels.
american liberals are retarded children who'll support anything that's against what drumpf wants, even if its something that the democrats themselves campaigned for. not that the gee o pee are any better DESU
I think Jordan Peterson has a fantastic point.
If you cannot see that you are the kind of person who would have been a Nazi throwing Jews into the death camps, you are not in touch with your true nature.
Not more evil, more dangerous. One is actual, the other is potential. One is affected by intentions and character, the other by power. Since America is the global hegemonic superpower, which the nazis weren't they are more dangerous.
Nice reduction. Chomsky is definitely not a dogmatic empiricist if you actually read him. Just because he's averse to theory doesn't mean he's some materialist, empiricist, logical positivist. He picks up a god damned lot from cartesian rationalism.
He's a lying piece of shit contrarian.
perhaps, seems like a dangerous generalization.
I like the sentiment but can you please explain its relevance?
This is honestly shocking.
Chomsky is clearly a genius, with a lot of world class accomplishments in several disciplines but I guess that doesn't inoculate you from being a bit mental to say the least.
I guess if Newton believed in biblical prophecy and alchemy, we shouldn't be surprised that gnome is not in touch with reality.
Trouble is, I guess, now we accept those who believe in the alchemy of antiquity to be incredibly ignorant or insane.
People who respect Noam's political views are maybe as much as half the western world, and the "educated" half.
He's overly optimistic about anarcho-syndicalism to the point of delusion. But he's otherwise a genius, definitely a good introductory real "red pill" in the sense of cutting through mainstream propaganda. Also a linguistic and philosophical genius. I admire his moral commitment.
That to say "this group of people is inherently more evil than that group of people" is absurd.
Liberal education is not worth having.
Sometimes hes right and sometimes hes not. youtube.com
>Syrian rebels.
At this point of time the situation is so confusing that i doubt that might increase stability
What if some group of hypothetical people want to create vast human suffering for little or no benefit, while a different group opposes them?
Are they the same level of evil?
Zizek>Chomsky
people should understand that he sees himself as a dedicated critique, hes not trying to be objective, he sees himself as the guy who always tries to nitpick the mistakes. and he does that well. but he is not objective, so you shouldnt get your opinions only from him.
Even if you think it's justified, you can't deny that American military 'adventurism' has led to hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths.
>new generation of altrightists trying to bash chompsky
how cute
Universal Grammar in the precise mechanism that Chomsky proposed is probably not "correct", but it doesn't really matter. He wasn't the very first, but he sure as hell pioneered the field for all intents and purposes and further research.
It's like pooh-poohing Einstein or Newton because they were wrong about two little things.
The one thing where he was straight wrong, or at least inconsistent, is advocating for a ban on gun as a left-libertarian.
>I don't know anything about a person except what right-wing spindoctors have presented, and that must be true.
Idiot detected. Please get yourself castrated ASAP.
The thing is that Chomsky really is a polymath. I'm surprised to read someone who presumably is not a SJW BLM fedoralord use the "stay in your own lane" argument.
You ever taught a day in your life?
"Evil" is all in your head, m8.
He didnt say more evil, he said more DANGEROUS, on account of climate change denial, an existential threat that surpasses any tyranny. The nazis also didnt have nuclear power.
Yes climate change is real. No its not a ploy by the chinese to destroy the coal industry.
At least a fair amount of these look like bullshit.
>BLM
What does the bureau of land management have to do with anything?
Yo momma so fat that...
archive.fo
(((Neocons)))
If the sport uses a ball of some kind, it's preparation for the hunt.
Those who can't teach, teach in the College of Education.
No. Islam delenda est.
There is no try.
you are a double moron
So much this, only people in their academic honeymoon can take this old fart serously.
>inadvertently become major contributor to computer science.
>start writing books about america being nazi kraut germany
You guys are really confused. UG is pretty uncontroversial among linguists if you actually ask them about it.
Bill Clinton was a new democrat or basically what would be considered republican light.
That's a bad argument. Everything is "in your head". The world is "in my head".
Agreed desu
>Did an international studies degree, middle-eastern studies major
>Whole fucking cohort in love with Chomsky (they were as pretentious as I was) and his views on the arab-palestine ways
>Get High Distinctions/Distinctions
>Teacher practically fawned over him too
>Put out differing opinions, generally found his work to be aggrandizing and inflammatory as opposed to answering any real questions
>Wrote an essay, cited and argued against him with counterpoints
>Get nothing but a Credit for the entire time of the unit (no matter how hard or how little I tried), Teacher becomes unwilling to deal with me, talks patronisingly down to me for the entire time I remain at university undertaking as if I'm a fucktard
Chomsky shat on my academics and made me a small c conservative.
Not him but how so?
>not even smart enough to know the way to get good marks at uni is to feed professors their bullshit back to them whether you agree with it or not
>waaaaaaah Chomsky did this!
Your perception of the world is in your head, but it exists without you. "Evil" is a metaphysical concept bro. Blades of grass, cheeseburgers, sea cucumbers eating shit on the sea floor, balls of nuclear plasma, they exist even if your brain is being eaten by vultures.
Premising an argument on 'Who is more evil' is junk thought.
>Studying a bullshit degree like "international studies" with a "middle-eastern studies major".
Found the problem right there buddy.
How's bicycling around delivering taco bell and chipotle going?
That actually sounds pretty useful in the current times we live in.
Objectively incorrect desu, since I was a reasonable student in all other subjects, the cow had a problem with muh right wing opinions and she is well known for it
It was a double major with IR.
I work for a finance company. Most people get jobs that have nothing to do with their degrees; they're just a retard test.
nod an argumund :DDD
>too stupid to write a good essay
>gets bad grade
>Muh left wing skool!!!
/pol/ pls drop out
He actually said That? Christ, what a fucking simple minded twit. Still holding a grudge against Chad from high school.
You can tell what he's going to say to just about every question. Take that how you will
He's not even right about Sapir-Whorf
I too love when mechanical engineers ask me about their fantastic ideas for wireless mind control and power transmission because they think that having "engineer" on their diploma makes them an expert in all sorts of engineering.
People should stick to what they know, and realize when they're not well versed in a topic.
"good" and "evil" are labels for patterns of behavior
physical pain exists in the real world as a result of people's deliberate actions, so the consequences of being "evil" are real
therefor you can evaluate the consequences of deliberate act and consider ones that cause more harm to be "more evil"
His book about the crimes of American presidents would be fine if it wasn't for the fact that in it he ignores the existence of the Soviet Union with all context that comes with it.
>whataboutism
chicago.suntimes.com
Also amusing tale of Chomsky and socialist regimes.
yep, its bad to kill people. Get over it.
Do you even know what the fuck I'm talking about? Apparently not. He claims that the entire communist conquest in 20th century never happened and that American reaction to it was basically their own campaign against everyone. Removing Soviet Union removes the entire context behin American political strategy during the Cold War.
It has cool black people.
You didn't name anyone doe.
en.wikipedia.org
Chomsky tried to ruined a guy's career over this.
and how he's going to say it
(agonizingly slow, evasive and accusing the person asking a question of asking a loaded question/not being on point/claiming it's not the real issue)