Why did Mao's communist regime demonize Confucius

I never understood this

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It was in the style of the French Revolution's reset of history. China's history begins with the Revolution, anything before that is suspect.

because he was obsessed with moving forward. china had been stuck going around in a circle for like 400 years

although mao could have easily done a better job pushing china forward, for example not murdering millions and not demonizing ancient culture but rather moving past it, he certainly did help china move into the deng xiaoping even though hes still a retard

Promotes family dynamics, ethics, and rule of benevolent rules.

Mao was against family dynamics, ethics and benevolent rules.

because Mao was a dumbass, i mean there isn't really anything to explain

people need to understand that Mao is literally the worst leader of the past 100 years.

Why did Mao's communist regime make a dedicated effort to genocide sparrows?
Nobody fucking knows.

The Maoists were like a cult, they didn't like outside influences in general and confucianism was a big one.

>Mao
Fun fact: he was just following precedent set forward by the Nationalists.

It was the Revolutionaries that memed that Confucianism "held them back" and started doing edgy things like wearing military uniforms and sporting combovers while shouting "democracy! democracy!"

Modern Taiwan just does Confucianism nowadays as cultural learning and "muh tradition" while shitting on its principles simultaneously (i.e. gay marriage.)

Confucianism also was the movement that started government exams which basically means you would work in government making lots of money if you passed. More than your neighbor you dirty capitalist.

Communism is a cult. And all new cults must destroy the traditional family.

Being a fag is okay in Confucianism if you don't go public about it and try to make it a "lifestyle"

Being a boyfucking faggot is ok, I know.
But gay marriage is entirely different and is an affront to the Confucian concept of family.

After the collapse of the Qing, Chinese people realized that their traditions and conservatism were what was holding them back. To help China modernize the Chinese, people turned to 2 different foreign modern ideologies communism and nationalism. Both of these ideologies purpose was to modernize China and get rid of backward traditions and ways

The Confucius movie was hilarious in China. IRL Chinese history contradicted the retarded Marxist dogma of history, so they changed things like adding widespread slavery in an era where it didn't exist.

I agree. Most Confucian families will beat you within an inch of your life for being a homo.

Because they wanted to eliminate old traditions.

In their defense, Confucianism was obsolete and its strict adherence in the government was a major reason for the incompetency and ineffectiveness of the Qing bureaucracy.

>tfw you remember making this originally

Not just that, the whole clannish fuck you I got mine attitude of modern Chinese is heavily influenced by Confucian traditions warped by time and taken to it's extreme. In fact, part of the reason why Mao launched the cultural revolution was because of this, trying to get Children to rat out their family members, but he still ultimately failed at rooting out that mindset

>Charles XII of sweden
>not Gustav IV Adolf
>Reagan nowhere near the list

Whoever made this should kill himself

>Obama, who pulled us out of the recession
>No sign of Bush 2nd
Nigga...

Mao wanted China to be sovereign, stable and strong.

Confucius was a globalist cuck.

>Confucius.
>Globalist.
Negro what?

Get out

>Confucius taught respect for the Emperor and tradition above all else
>HURR Y do gommie not liek dis?

OP, you're a fucking moron.

Confucianism taught meekness and comformity.

Confucian China was torn apart, economically exploited and humiliated by every single foreign colonialist power (British, French, Dutch, Portugal, USA, Russia, Japan etc) just like the globalists wanted.

Mao wanted to instill a strong, revolutionary and disciplined attitude among the Chinese nation.

He wanted China to be strong/independent (national liberation) and revolutionary (socialism). Essentially the opposite of globalist Confucianism's cucked philosophy of meekness, comformity and enslavement to tradition (even and especially when those traditions did not benefit the average working person, but did benefit the globalist empires and monarchs and merchants and bankers and capitalists).

Mao redpilled China against globalist cuckoldry.

Well said. Here is your mango comrade

t. leftycuck

>78 cents were deposited into your account
Try again, globalist cuck.

>Maoism is not globalist

At least learn your own Ideology leftycuck

Napoleon III wasn't THAT bad...

"We will no longer surrender this country, or its people, to the false song of globalism" - Mao Tsetung, PLA victory speech and establishment of People's Republic of China (1949)

nice fakenews

Death to America.
Death to Israel.
Death to the American-Zionist plot.
Long live the Islamic Revolution.

Great guerilla fighter.
Absolute full retard of a statesman.

The emperor and empire was long dead at that point.

From cancer to cancer:

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Because Marxism seeks to destroy any ties to anything other than the State.
It seeks to burn the old ideas to the ground in order to make itself society's foundations

Hahahaha how the fuck is Confucianism real like nigga just smelt your own iron haha like nigga just kill more sparrows

As much as I'm not the biggest fan of the Obama administration, saying he is worse than Bush is just inaccurate.

This. He was just Bush with a black coat of paint.

I'd bet a lot this was made by a burger

Where does Marx say any of this?

Confucianism step 1:
Suck your parent's ass.
Kiss your government ass.
Your place in society reflect how you treat others.

In other words it was restrictive and had everybody living with a stick up their arse.

this is the dumbest picture i've ever seen on Veeky Forums.

and i've seen a lot of shit

The man was pretty charismatic, for a guy who said "I feel nothing" when asked for an opinion upon returning after the triumph of the revolution.

>I have literally never read the Analects

>Reading volumes of cucked globalist "philosophy"
Don't know which hole you just crawled out of, but here in the modern world that's been replaced by TV/vidya/social media. More efficient, more visual and more narcotic for the wageplebs.

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Killing the old superstitions of the past for a new bright future

>globalist
>Confucianism

are you stupid?

>Confucianism taught meekness and comformity.
It also taught you to literally rebel against corrupt governments since Confucian order meant everyone doing their part. Subjects obey, rulers rule. Rulers don't rule? Subjects throw em out.

Kinda telling why CCP tried to stamp it out, no?

Yep

You're a troll

>subjects obey
Confucian order sought "subjects" who obeyed the whims of a ruler, with minimal education afforded only to a very few elite.

People's China wanted educated, literate, disciplined working people who could organize among themselves to more efficiently build public infrastructure and social programs and defend China against foreign aggression through militias and guerrilla forces.

Confucian Chinese workers/peasants were kept meek, un-educated and submissive to the feudal landlords and globalist foreign capitalist powers.

Chinese workers/peasants in People's China were encouraged to be strong, educated, disciplined, organized and independent against foreign globalist empire cuckoldry.

Confucianism is a bottom of the barrel, bluepill cuck-tier trash philosophy.

Mao's revolution is a based, redpilled, awoken, chad-tier cohesive political-economic-social structure.

Do you even lift?

>people literally post this shit, while being completely serious.

LMAO

Because Confucianism is literally the worst religion ever.

Mao's revolution demonized the literati, the educated and skilled middle class that a state needs to advance because of muh reactionary borgeois bullshit, and retarded policies like making farmers into amateur steelworkers. The alienation and persecution of the educated classes and the closure of all educational institutions during the Cultural Revolution set China back a generations

Your opinions sound as retarded as Mao and the Red Guards did, but at least Mao successfully seized control of the world's oldest surviving civilization, got everyone to worship him to the death, then let go of his retardation right before the end enough to open up his country to Nixon.

Can you give me a quick rundown user? Im a brainlet and have onlu read the tao te ching, so I have no clue what confucious talks about. Or shoot me a link to some required reading.

LBJ should be disaster tier. His ramping up of Vietnam wasted countless lives and billions of dollars and his "Great Society" bullshit really started the horrendous government overreach we see today. He fucked America up badly and it's never recovered from it

>Carlos II
>disaster tier
>not godlike tier

The horrendous government overreach of a pseudo welfare state that pales in comparison to the rest of the first world?

It was wasteful whatever way you look at it. It wasted billions of dollars for almost no improvement in the groups it was meant to help (mostly poor blacks) and activly made living conditions worse for them in many cases.

t. assmad globalist betas

Mao was the wokest of redpilled Chads. But today, in this globalist Western world, the betapilled dicklets who make up pretty much the entire male population recoil in impulsive disgust and hatred for those who are so Awoken as to break free from the false song of globalism.

Redpilled anti-globalist Chads like the leaders of Cuba, the Islamic Republic of Iran, North Korea, Hezbollah, Syria, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Belarus, Bolivia are demonized by the globalist media simply because their alpha Chad aura and commanding presence reminds the pathetic little globalist cucks (Trump, Nutty-Yahoo and "fake opposition" Zio-enabler Putin come to mind) that their fantasy of a total, complete globalist world will always remain just that: a fantasy. Nothing but the rantings and ravings of madmen, fabricating their own reality which is not the true reality, pickled to the gills with narcotic delusion.

>t, the armchair socialist.

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>Confucious
>Globalist

Literal what
Do you even know who Confucius is?

>leaders who failed to salvage a terrible situation in disaster tier
What a shit picture

Confucius stood between china and a centralized state.
Any leader worth his salt, mao or otherwise, would have decided confucianism had to go.

>old superstitions
>Confucius
Pick one and only one.


Confucius literally said: 1.敬鬼神而遠之。2.未知生焉知死。

>Confucius stood between china and a centralized state. Any leader worth his salt, mao or otherwise, would have decided confucianism had to go.

Confucianism literally first became the official ideology of China along with legalism in Han dynasty, which is the first pinnacle and golden age of Chinese centralized state.

If you understand China's history, it's one big circle of them chasing the past glories. Confucian doctrine is literally that the past was better. It's hard to explain to modern western citizens that when ancient Chinese dynasties were in trouble, they didn't stop and think of new solutions. They cracked books and tried to copy the glorious ancestors. It took literally great men to advance China in it's various golden ages by actually modernizing parts of the government. Breaking this retarded cultural foundation to embrace the proven superior western mode of rationalism and forward innovation was necessary to modernize the Chinese state, even if Mao was pretty goddamn heavy handed at it.

>Jimmy Carter on that last at all
>woodrow wilson, andrew johnson, and FDR not on the list at all

>Obama is the worst US president of all time

Gee I wonder which board you came from?

>not killing a million Chinese
>a better job
Wut?

>han dynasty
>centralized
Centralized in comparison to the Qin, which is a lot with consideration to the time, but not a lot for what was necessary for what we know as the modern centralized state. The same level of centralization continued right up to Ming, where it's limits at the national level were really shown off.
The Qing tried to make the imperial state more "overarching", give it more presence in China's outlying territories, but peasants hated that shit like the plague. All of a sudden they had to give a shit about tax collection and keeping clean books, which no one actually likes.

>doubled the debt
>implemented a flawed bismark health insurance scheme. which mainly just put more people on government welfare insurance. it also didn't make anything go down in price.
>meddling in libya, egypt, yemen, and syria make bush's invasion of iraq look like clinton's meddling in the yugoslave civil wars.
>failed to reinstate the banking and finance regulations removed by clinton and caused the 2008 crash.
>let russia get away with annexing crimea and a proxy war in ukraine, with mild sanctions
>let china get away with stealing dozens of islands and hundreds/thousands of square miles of ocean from philippines, vietnam, and malaysia. during obama's "asian pivot".
>democrats lost hundreds of government seats since his election.

He really fucked up his country along with half of the world, I don't see the problem.

Han dynasty really was rather centralized during Han Wudi's reign. I don't see the problem.

Mao also praised legalism very much which was also actually worked from Han to Qing.

>didn't invade the wrong country and occupy it for a good part of a decade, destabilizing the area even further up to now

But NObama didn't meddle in some affairs half-way across the world and that makes him worse.

NATO airstrikes and other help caused the down fall of Qaddafi. The main rebel factions were on the verge of defeat before nato intervention.

state department actors assisted protesters in egypt. then helped elect the muslim brotherhood. which were thankfully all removed by the egyptian military.

syria's uprising was just protests and a couple old farts saying they didn't recognize assad anymore. then the USA shows up. aid is given to "moderate rebels". then all the sudden ISIS goes from a few guys to nearly a legitimate nation.

the US and Saudis keep backing the deposed sunni government of Yemen. the USA bombed it for "terrorists" before the arab spring. the usa has since stepped up to bail out the saudi war effort in yemen.

I deployed to Iraq a couple times, and yes, it was a massive shit show for 8 years. Though the freely elected govermment of Iraq kicked out the US military presence. We left with a fairly stable(at least in the kurd and shia areas) nation up and running.

Obama basically turned 3 stable and safe nations into nearly failed states. Iran's influence in the region is greater than ever.

Confucius is a lot like Aristotle was to Europeans: so great, they saw little reason to innovate on him.
Confucian administration provided what we might call a "groundwork" for modern centralization, and really was an advanced system of the concept of such, but the problem was not moving past it as it was writ and practiced from Han times onward, where Chinese territory and population grew exponentially. Meanwhile the state exam and the expectations of a bureaucrats duties did not change by any great degree. A good deal of political power remained in the hands of local functionaries and lords who could expect a good degree of autonomy from the imperial capital, rather than being properly arms of the state, which is a state of affairs that lasted right up to the Chinese Republic, when its anachronistic nature really became obvious.
Mao certainly gave lip-service to legalism, as a broad concept of administration, but concretely the chinese state could not be called one run by confucian legalism. In practice, Mao had upended that form of administration entirely in favour of the soviet form.

>All bad American presidents are Dems
Classic faggotry detected.

>We left with a fairly stable
>entire swathes of the country gets taken over by under-equipped (at best) cultist fundies and the "trained" armies in area completely yield to them and abandon the battlefield and their equipment
>only now is the situation on the trend of unfucking itself

At least Egypt and Libya didn't have it that bad.

You're giving shit to Obama for intervening in in these countries, but you're also blaming him for not intervening enough against China and Russia, which I'm sure you know are two countries that can put up more of a fight than some barely equipped cultists.

You're also blaming him for not reinstating Glass-Steagall, I'm guessing? Neither did Bush. You can dislike Obama all you want but his mistakes were no worse than Bush's mistakes.

Funny way of putting it, because it reminds me of Han Feizi's own criticism of Confucianism. Paraphrasing:

"Once there was a man of Chu on a boat who lost his sword. He cut a notch on the side of the boat where it had fallen, and then jumped into the water to search for the sword. To chase after the ways of Yao and Shun is to be the same as that man of Chu."

Translation: trying to go back to the lost golden ages is like being unaware that boats move.

>DUDE OBAMA WAS A GOOD PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE DANCED ON ELLEN AND TALKED ABOUT GAME OF THRONES xD!

kill yourself faggot

>never said he was a good president

Shit, nigger what a spicy argument.

The sunni areas in Iraq and parts of the kurd areas fell because the Shia majority elected a shia government. Which then proceeded to mess with the sunnis. the sunni iraqis in the military gave up, because they were not getting paid or just didn't feel like fighting for the government.

Obama worsened by intervention in purely internal affairs. Then completely chickened out when nations were invading and conquering parts of other nations.

other than Bush JR. there hasn't been a major screw up republican president.

Adding in more details doesn't change the fact that the objective of the US occupation was to leave the country as a stable, democratic country, and despite being there for almost a decade, utterly failed in this objective.

should we have just stayed for 40 years like we did West Germany?

That's more of a defense to Obama's pulling out than Bush's decision to actually invade.

>nixon

>Nixon
>bad president

pick one

>Warren G Harding
>Calvin Coolidge

i am of a mind that the secular dictator is the best option for muslim world. Until such a time when their societies have undergone a reform and enlightenment period.

bush was wrong, but made the best possible outcome of his screw up. obama just poured gasoline all over everything and blamed bush.

other than his stance on guns and drugs, and of course covering up watergate. he did nothing wrong.

> person A shits on the bed, then spends the next 7 years stepping on the shit to smear it into the bed further.

> Person B trying to clean up the encrusted shit out of the sheets is the villian for not being able to clean up the shit.

Republicunt logic.

Except if Bush didn't make the mistake of invading, there would be no fire to pour gasoline on. But please continue making excuses for the president who was a Republican and blaming everything on the president who was a Democrat.

>reminder once again that Bush did not re-instate Glass-Steagall that you bitched at Obama for

there would still been the arab spring. saddam probably would have faced it him self. the root cause of it in syria, other than assad, was turkey damning off all the rivers that flowed into syria and causing farm failures(and not climate change as Comrade Bernie Sanders claimed). the iraq war only made syria worse, by providing experienced insurgents.

A made a mess and did a shit job of cleaning it up. B makes his own mess, a bigger mess, and blames A because part of the A mess merged with the B mess.