ITT: Times when Veeky Forums and /pol/ got BTFO
ITT: Times when Veeky Forums and /pol/ got BTFO
Other urls found in this thread:
bbc.co.uk
newscientist.com
africaresource.com
youtube.com
twitter.com
Reminder this is the guy who tried to get banted banned
wouldn't there have been DNA markers of African DNA of the people living in great Britain if they were really that relevant and numerous?
How is that relevant to the accuracy of what he said?
That he's trying to push the notion that the BBC pic was accurate. The empire was diverse in the sense that people from Spain and Greece we're in britan not crawling with niggers.
An historically accurate representation of Boudica and her army
How can that guy be a historian?
I wish the Romans would've got boudica before she an hero'd
Yeah it was ethnically diverse. Not with niggers though.
PJW is a moron but he's right on this one
There was a recent discovery of an African noble woman's remains, from around Roman Britian times... The media made a big deal of it. Hardly evidence of a diverse society, as they've only found one.
wtf delet this racist
Blacks in Roman Britain is misleading but not inaccurate, basically. This WE WUZ WHITEZ IN SHIT that /pol/ applies to everything is getting ridiculous
IIRC /pol/ is saying nubians were white now
Proofs of more than literally ONE nubian living in Britain?
>gay romans in the background
Why yes it wouldn't ruin a senators career to be the bottom or anything
>Moors
>on Hadrian's wall
They weren't white or black they were Mediterranean like the other Romans and Greeks who served Rome alongside western Gauls, northern Germans, Syrians, Egyptians, etc.
>men talking implies homosexuality
Does your boss bang your boipucci before your shift ends each night?
>we were part of an oppressive, brutal and militaristic empire, but at least we had diversity!
Liberalism in 2017.
/pol/ here, never claimed Nubians were white. They're clearly not.
>moors
>black
I didn't realize all of pol was one person
Proofs that there was only one \(°_°)/
Great post friend
You start, OP
one is all you need to show it was possible
where there is one there can be more
now people can't say "never"
Thats retarded, of course there are foreigners to the land living anywhere but that doesnt make them a common sight or make them as the normal trend. Thats like saying because a black man once became a samurai, Japan was common on Afrosamurais
.
The man in the cartoon is clearly sub saharan, even the african provinces of Rome had near no contact with actual blacks, yes Rome conquered northern africa and parts of what we'd now call the middle-east but when the Romans made egypt a province it had been ptolomeic (greek) for 3 centuries.
The irony of all of this is places like egypt and the levant would have been considerably whiter than they are now. The whole region was Hellenised and I guess languishing in Jahiliyyah. Think that soldiers in Syria would have been more like St. George (patron saint of England) than some swarthy bearded Arab fighting for Al-Nusra and certainly not black.
I mean why on earth would Rome waste resources transporting a demographically relevant amount of sub-saharan Africans and Arabs to the cold remote extremities of their empire?
Who was emperor?
Maximus Merkelus?
the problem is that the population is completely historically illiterate
for example, i will say that there were syrians in Britain as a bait
what this means is syrian archer auxiliary troops were stationed in britain as part of roman military organisation, that doesnt mean modern day syrians were present in britain nor that they were all black or green or whatever stupid color your ideology deems important, have nothing to do with diversity, but both sides of this "debate" will get triggered
You'd think that /pol/ would be absolutely delighted by this clip, seeing as it shows the family owning slaves who are white. They do keep insisting that "I SAY WE WERE SLAVES AND WHATNOT!" after all.
Though that would imply any of them actually watched it and aren't just spazzing over the screenshot.
It's bullshit because even thought is technically correct, the way it's phrased and the implications are stupid.
The fact that a conquering empire from 2000 years ago used diverse soldiers has nothing to do with modern political terms (""diversity""") and isn't even some big revelation either.
Unironic stormfags used to post an image showing may ethnically diverse SS and Wehrmacht volunteers from Africa, Central Asia and India and used this to imply the Nazis weren't "really that bad" when in fact they were simply pragmatic and used foreigners as cannon fodder.
When you portrary something without explicitly saying that it-s an exception, you're going to portray the norm.
Blacks in roman england weren't the norm, not even remotely. Nor were interracial relationship the norm, given what we know about racial beliefs back then.
ANGLO ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY DECIDEDLY BTFO!
BRITAIN CONFIRMED 100% BLACK SUBSAHARAN AFRICAN PRIOR TO THE ANGLO INVASION!
When will the eternal one start paying reparations to all the individuals of African descent around the globe for their horrific genocide against the black natives?
>Veeky Forums and /pol/
Fuck off /pol/ack. We're not friends.
>They owe their unusual Y chromosome to an African man living in England at least 250 years ago
Is it true that the black roman emperors of ancient Britain built the Big Ben and the English Channel Veeky Forums?
But for one fleeting moment they all suddenly became white when Jesus was crucified. Then they became black again.
How has PJW still not killed himself? How does it feel to be wrong about Everything? What a fucking pebeian
WE
That is superstitious.
youtube.com
>Roman Britain was ethnically diverse
Roman Britain was 90% celtic. The rest is irrelevant horseshit trying to justify the claim that rome was ethnically diverse.
>Romans bring a few battalions of moors to Britain
>"See, multiculturalism was practiced even 2000 years ago! This means it's good, remember to vote Corbyn :^)"
I disagree with /pol/ extremely wayward and muh righteousness view but yes /pol/ is suprisingly right
And jesus can they stop with the diversity is always a positive good shit,i live in one of the most homogeneous and racially rich nation on earth and we still have racial conflict popping up and deep seated mistrust
Multiculturalism is only good when it gives a net benefit and when there's uniting force for each races
There were Afrucan Roman soldiers stationed in Britain, the pic isn't that much of a stretch.
I think we should all chill out about it.
This
But i couldnt help but think that theres an agenda in this
And not just some deviant contrarian depiction one
>Prison Planet Paul
Oh god that guy is perhaps one of the dumbest cunts to ever live. Anyway, Roman Britain wasn't super diverse by our standards, with only 3-4% or so foreigners, but that's pretty impressive in a time where the fastest way to travel was riding a horse.
The Absolute Boy is gonna win, motherfucker. Prepare your Tory ass, bitch.
Reminder that white dicklets literally think Romans and Greeks were Nordic and not Phoenician and Anatolian
Maybe, but a film showing medieval England as 99.9% white would be accurate regardless of whether there's an agenda behind it, same with OP's pic. It's not something to get worked up about.
>The Absolute Boy is gonna win, motherfucker. Prepare your Tory ass, bitch.
Corbyn is a Communist.
He's going to have Tories, liberals, conservatives and everyone else shot behind the toolshed.
Africa meant Tunisia in Roman times.
Moors were not black, stop using the term like it means black fucking anglos. The term for nigs in classic times is ethiopian.
That's retarded. I'm sure there's at least one man from tayikistan in Slovakia. Should we start filling the place with central asians every place Slovakia is on TV? Same with blacks (not africans) in romans times, they're unnecessary and bring nothing to the table.
Friendly reminder than in a generation's time all major British news outlets will be saying "Britain has always had a non-white majority, just look at our historical dramas."
Labour should have that as the slogan for the next election.
>Moors were not black
Where did I say that you fucking pseud?
Not trying to take sides, but are you sure that the dark skinned roman is supposed to represent a sub-saharan african?
Cartoons are obiviously not 100% accurate, thus it might be possible that he is in fact a berber with dark skin, and not a black person
It's the BBC, you should know exactly what they're implying.
Having Ciaran Hinds or someone play the main roles wouldn't have been any more historically accurate so why are people so butthurt, it's fucking television get over it.
it looks to me like the dark skinned person has caucasian features
There's a huge difference between hiring people who's skin happen to be slightly whiter than the people they're portraying and making half of the entire fucking cast a different race entirely. It doesn't help that the BBC enforces diversity quotas in all of their shows and have been caught firing people because they are white, straight and male.
> learns history using cartoons
It's op who btfo
That's not the issue. This cartoon was commissioned by Britain's politburo to rewrite history and brainwash children into accepting to the multi cult.
>Rome would ship African soldiers to Britain
fucking why? Does this "historian" think they just shipped Legions around the entire Empire?
>"send DeVondrius's cohort from Africa to Londinium"
I'm not saying it never ever happened, but that's fucking FAR to go for soldiering back then, it's very deliberately done and they are SO defensive and angry because they realized it was too blatant
>he's from fucking Melbourne
fucking just glass us already, my city is diseased
>Does this "historian" think they just shipped Legions around the entire Empire?
But that's exactly what they did...
his twitter is distilled autism
>He's going to have Tories, liberals, conservatives and everyone else shot behind the toolshed.
Nigga please, my dick can only get so hard
[spoiler] Democratic socialist at best though. Even his manifesto is only a social democrat's wet dream [/spoiler]
>IIRC /pol/ is saying nubians were white now
That is because they are. Genetic sequencing has shown that Nubians are closer in blood to Eastern and Northern Africans than they are to sub-Saharan/Bantu Africans. It's the same reason that Ethiopians are basically considered black Caucasoids and not Bantus like what you see in Rwanda and shit.
>tfw monash feels like 1917 russia
>Null: Roman Britain was homogeneous
>sample rare tail event of a black skeleton
>reject null
Basic type 1 statistical error here. The existence of these rare events does not imply the acceptance of the alternative that "Britain was multicultural".
>Nubians were white
So is this the same group of people who were posting images like pic related to differentiate actual Egyptians from Nubians and whites to prove that Egyptians were neither black nor white? Or is it a different group of people? It's retarded how fast the narrative changes.
WE
...
Nubians aren't literally white. It's just genetically they are more similar to Ethiopians which are NOT the same as traditional sub-saharan blacks. Ethiopians are literally white caucasoids.
Never heard of these people.
Why are noglovers always so beta
Both sides of this are equally retarded
Actually one skeleton is enough to reject the claim of homogeneous. Whether it was "multicultural" is a subjective claim as you can't quantify at what point a society is "multicultural".
Ok now I'm fully triggered
There's a difference between one skeleton and a handful of accounts of Africans in Roman Britain, and claiming that double digit populations of a European nation in ancient times were black.
I'm not sure what you mean by "double digit populations" and I never made any such claim anyway.
no it's not, when we talk of homogeneous societies we allow for a percentage of difference. We describe Victorian Britain, that was ~98% white British, as a homogeneous society. Rare events do not alter the expectation, and we can allow for a small percentage of transitory non-Britons without rejecting the claim. Look if a population is 95% similar genetically, and Britons today are almost identical to Britons 10,000 years ago by the way, then we cannot reject the statement that the population is homogeneous. You're just being a contrarian pseud, bby.
>double-digit
>adjective
>adjective: double-digit
> 1.
> (of a number or variable) between 10 and 99.
Who's this "we" that you are talking about that claim to have overthrown the dictionary definition of 'homogenous'?
So you are saying ten or more black people? That seems possible, even likely.
Mike Stuchbery is a meme man
Are you naturally retarded or are you just baiting? "Double digits population" is a common term referring to the percentage of a population from 10% - 99%.
But please, enlighten this thread on how diverse and multiracial ancient Britain was.
>"Double digits population" is a common term referring to the percentage of a population from 10% - 99%.
I've just Googled "double digits population" and there was not a single result referring to a common term for percentages. Why didn't you just say that if that's what you meant, I'm not a mind reader. You could also have just clarified rather than making up a new "common term" in your head.
I made no claims about percentages of population for you to challenge in the first place btw. I would entirely agree that I would be utterly astonished if Roman Britain had 10% black population.
Ah, apologies. It's a common saying where I come from. And you're right, I shouldn't have been so brash in my reply.
>brainwash children into accepting to the multi cult.
Historical revisionism is one thing but "multi cult" is one of the most /pol/ things I've read in a while.
Go back to your containment board.
Holy shit, why are people throwing such a fuss over the black Roman soldier when there's that shit?
Seriously, as shown by this and that other thread, there's plenty of argument to be had over the Roman soldier. But a black man in Celtic warpaint is 100% bona fide bullshit.
Doesn't this prove that it's basically an exercise in propaganda?
You could maybe get away with claiming there was the odd black soldier in the Roman army but there weren't any fucking black celts.
Nothing special, same as brainwash children into accepting fluid genders and faggotory. Typical libercucks.
Oh for fuck's sake. I was actually defending the BBC too. I feel like a fucking idiot.
He's right though.
/pol/ seems to associate multiculturalism with wewuzing though. One doesn't necessarily lead to or include the other.
Now you know why (((they))) have to be stopped at all cost. It's never too late to correct the wrong.
Let me guess, this is Spartacus' rebellion or something.