What would have happened if Germany won WWI?
What would have happened if Germany won WWI?
Jose Gray
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Joshua Cruz
The world would be a better place.
Isaac Stewart
put it to rest hans, the schlieffenplan was doomed from the start
Evan Young
They would have imposed peace conditions even more crippling than the Treaty of Versaille, potentially leading to the rise of far-right leaders in Britain, France, and elsewhere. Then again, the British and French are not as retarded as the Germans, so that probably wouldn't have happened.
Gavin Williams
The best answer is literally nobody knows and every reply trying to claim something ITT will be just hypotheses and asspulls. There were very little concrete objectives other than crippling the French, annexing the British colonies in Africa and annexing a chunk of Russian empire to serve as a buffer (which happened anyway thanks to Lenin).
Thomas Lopez
Well duh, dipshit, OP wants people to hypothesize. What's wrong with that? Is having a little fun with a thought experiment such a bad thing?
Fuck off.
Nathan Sanchez
See Kaiserreich: Legacy of the Weltkrieg.
Jayden White
You're American aren't you?
Daniel Gray
>see a videogame
Into the trash it goes.
Parker Martin
Franco-British fascist union.
Nathaniel Morris
When you hypothesize based on practically unknown premises you really can't come up with anything meaningful. If you give us a realistic way Germany could have defeated the Entente we can go on from there.
Samuel Anderson
This quite honestly. Continental Europe would have fallen under German surpremacy. Stability would have been the result.
The SU would have never gained its eastern Euro holdings and decolonization would have been more orderly and stable.
The question is if the US would have kept Japanese ambition in check. If not we might have seen a pretty bad Japanese dominated sphere.
Leo Cooper
>Germany
>stable
That's retarded and wrong.
Jordan Long
Plz stop
Benjamin Bell
>That's retarded and wrong.
Nice argument sperg. Not like Germany is by far the strongest european power. France and GB weren't able to create a stable european situation.
Adam Rogers
>German Stability
Ah yes, the state that crumbled into a mix of leftists, socialists, monarchists and republicans before Entente forces had even reached their borders, a model of stability.
Ian Price
>suffer a taxing war for 3 years
>somehow this consequence is shocking
France was falling apart too by then
Tell me, are you baiting or genuinely psychotic?
Elijah Watson
Germans would be geopolitical masters of Europe. Ottomans would still exist((horrible timeline)). Possibly reinvigorated to reclaim the Middle East. Millions of Jews still remaining in europe((horrible timeline)). Austria Hungary would be reinvigorated. America and Russia would compete against Germany as rivals.
Jackson Barnes
>finally collapse after a long and exhausting war
>muh they just crumbled into a mess before the entente reached their borders
Tf. France had army mutinies despite being propped up by GB and Germany being distracted. The hate on this board is retarded.
Colton Garcia
>France was falling apart too by then
There were German troops in France from 1914-1918, but France didn't fold. German troops were on the outskirts of Paris and France didn't fold. The Belgians occupied a tiny sliver of their territory and didn't fold.
Meanwhile, Germany, which hadn't seen a single artillery shell on their territory, spontaneously bursts into treats the moments things go badly.
Most of the 1917 mutineers did not object to war or fighting, they objected to being pushed into poorly thought out offensives. Germany decided it just was done with war the moment things turned sour.
Owen Gonzalez
>Austria Hungary would be reinvigorated
you cannot be serious
Levi Gray
German leadership was truly autistic. If they really cared about European stability, they wouldn't have pushed Austria to war with their "Blanck check"
Jonathan Young
Wow dude it must have been terrible, all those Germans factories and homes being occupied by Germans, all that pristine German countryside claimed by German invaders. Hell, there were Germans within miles of Berlin. It must have been so hard for them.
Nicholas Wright
You forget the seven hundred thousand civilians dying of hunger
Jason Ross
>calling anyone autistic
>while being a frenchman
Jose Roberts
Pity about the strongest european power's navy being trapped in port, huh.
Levi Gray
>hey lmao your navy was weaker
>doesn't matter you were fighting a two front land war against three other powers
>they wouldn't have pushed Austria to war with their "Blanck check"
Its hilarious how the "historians" here grotesquely misrepresent the blank check. Murdering a monarch/their heir was a huge fucking deal.
>There were German troops in France from 1914-1918, but France didn't fold.
Huh. Im really curious if France wouldn#t have folded without GB helping them and Russia diverting German power.
>Most of the 1917 mutineers did not object to war or fighting, they objected to being pushed into poorly thought out offensives.
Hey our troops aren't following orders but its totes not being on the brink of collapse because I have to somehow pull facts out of my ass to undermine my anti-german shitposting.
>Germany decided it just was done with war the moment things turned sour.
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They gave up when a new and fresh power entered teh great war and their situation became hopless.
Jayden Cox
So much better. I'm still fucking pissed off about it. All those tens and tens of millions dead because of the fucking Belgians and their neutrality.
Hunter Watson
>Most of the 1917 mutineers did not object to war or fighting, they objected to being pushed into poorly thought out offensives.
>I get all my historical knowledge from a youtube chanel
Ryder Cox
Germany stabilizes the former AH region and the former Ottoman region. Perfidious Albion and the Frogs don't cut up the Ottoman region for colonies. The House of Saud and their whabbist ilk are kept in check.
Luis Moore
Jesus dude, you seem know little about the first world war. Having a prince being killed at this time was not that big of a reason to go to war. Many countries had leaders killed in this time period. Russia, France, Italy, and America all had their leaders assassinated. Blank check is what pushed Austrians into not having a conference with Serbia after they accepted all but one of their ridiculous claims. French mutineers would defend their positions from attack, they however where protesting poorly planned offensives. Germany gave up after allies surrendered as its underbelly was soft now.
books I recommend you to read on the great war: War of Attrition: fighting the First world war, A world undone: the story of the great war 1914-1918, The Sleepwalkers, and Fall of the Ottomans(nothing to do with the points above but provides good insight to Turkish side of the events).
Also a quote from the Austrians about how Hindenburg or Ludendorff was pushing them into war was "Who rules in Berlin?". This shows the pressure of Berlin on Vienna for a start of a war(and foreshadows the dictatorship of Hindenburg and Ludendorff towards to war's end. Also shows how little the Kaiser really mattered in regards to German policy).
Nathan Barnes
>Germany would still have Alsace-Lorraine and it's eastern territories
>WWII wouldn't have happened or at least be really different
>Holocaust wouldn't have happened
>France would be the agressor of Europe
>decolonization might not have happened,
Logan Brown
youtube.com
Brits say the Entente saved Europe from German conquest.
Justin Robinson
This
Hudson Collins
The Blockade killed Germany through economics. France still had trade.
Ethan Edwards
There are different concepts for it in each religion and culture, but we'd probably refer to it as 'heaven'
Dylan Fisher
this tbph
Julian Scott
How do you think these fellas would be in such a crazy world?
Jonathan Cruz
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Zachary Hughes
>gets starved by a sea blockade which causes 400000-800000 casualties
>fights a 23654 front war because your allies are literally retarded
geee i wonder why the germans where weary of this war. on top of that britain maintained the blockade for eight months after the armistice in november 1918
Lincoln Lee
maybe a successful easter rising and the proclamation of an idependent ireland
Liam Rodriguez
I love how you feel the need to compare yourselves to us everytime someone criticize you
It's time to grow up, Hans
Brody Gomez
>you cannot be serious
t. reddit
read a book before commenting on a topic. there was even a thread here on the habsburgs a few days ago which dispelled this bad meme
Jose Hill
Unironically this
Jeremiah Bailey
Mitteleuropean culture from Strassburg to Kiev, from Bozen to Helsingfors
It would be the greatest cultural golden age in the history of mankind.
Camden Rogers
>Austria-Hungary could have still existed albeit in a more decentralized form
>German Empire dominant in Europe with a lot of puppet states
>American isolationism would have continued to this day
>a weaker Soviet Union would exist dependent on Imperial Germany
>France and Britain would have seen the rise of fringe political groups. France being far more susceptible then Great Britain
>A lot of African territory would have gone to Germany
>Peace treaty harsher then Versailles
Kayden Ross
Germany winning WW1 would prevent the Holocaust and (maybe) the Armenian genocide as well. It's really hard to argue that isn't a better world to live in.