It's always: WEST, muh England, muh France, muh Germany. But no one really cares about Eastern Kingdoms and Empires. England was an irrelevant backwater compared to: Poland-Lithuania, Bohemia, Hungary and Muscovy
Robert Carter
> England was an irrelevant backwater compared to: Poland-Lithuania, Bohemia, Hungary and Muscovy
Ahahaha what the fuck am I reading?
You were never relevant apart from Hungary and sometimes Poland and Czech republic, Baltic states were always irrelevant backwaters, same as the Balkans and Ukraine
Henry Moore
>anglo education
Josiah Moore
Can anyone recommend a good book in English on Medival Poland?
Caleb Gutierrez
Anything Norman Davies.
Hunter Evans
Thanks, I'll look into it.
Angel Lee
Reminder that anything east of Charlemagne's Empire is irrelevant forever
Sebastian Taylor
Czech republic didn't exist before 1993.
Carson Wood
"How Poland won the Battle of Britain" by Pavel Zckyzvck
John Johnson
>Ukraine >literally the birthplace of Indo-Europeans >irrelevant
Dominic Allen
You`re right Chernobyl at least spanned S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
Thomas Diaz
>muh vidyagames Fuck off beta nerd
Carson Russell
What a retard you are, just because some prehistoric people originated in the eastern borders of Ukraine 6000 years ago this doesn't make that region relevant, it's like saying East Africa is relevant because humans originated there
Talking about the region
Jaxson Collins
butthurt anglotrash
Kayden Hernandez
Because it's boring as hell
Nolan Thomas
There were never humans living in Africa until like the 17th century.
Adam Jones
Make me faggot
Ian Mitchell
>Ukraine >literally the birthplace of Indo-Europeans Barely, and it's not historically relevant. Western Ukraine is the origin of Slavs tho, and that's an interesting historical topic.
Alexander Smith
Pipet marshes is a nonsensical theory based solely on linguistic reconstruction, Slavs originated in what is now Czech republic and Eastern Germany.
Juan Clark
Something something... Western nations having better access to the high seas... something something... colonialism... something something... more foreign nations including the media juggernaught of the USA having most of its modern origins with influence from western nations.
Connor Campbell
t. hohol, clearly the one to with the superior race.
Logan Garcia
>inb4 not medieval
Poland has always been and always will be medieval
Caleb Smith
>Slavs originated in what is now Czech republic and Eastern Germany. Source?
David Torres
>how do I English Suit yourself nigger
Hunter Hernandez
I havn't slept in twentyseven hours, what's your excuse?
Kayden Scott
Archaelogical research especially pottery. Pripet marshes quickly falls apart when you realize what it's actually based on.
Bentley Sanders
> Slavs originated in what is now Czech republic and Eastern Germany They clearly migrated into Eastern Germany because the population spoke East German languages up until the 5th century.
Carson James
this, his shit in general is top notch
Dominic Powell
Excuse for what, not being a nigger?
Jacob Young
Because everything is based on Anglo-German propaganda and the idea of Teutonic Race. And that somehow people of the East are worse.
English history is very boring prior to Industrialization and that's why nothing before is ever mentioned. Kievan Rus, Poland-Lithuania, K. of Hungary, Muscovy all have more interesting history than England. Poles had more advanced technology and laws before West Europe, that's how they escaped Black Death.
You can clearly see English getting uppity ITT. Deep down, they know it's true.
Henry Martinez
>Anglotrash
Justin Cox
>Britbongs couldnt defend their own people on their home turf >mfw
Jordan Roberts
Poland and Czech were inhabited by Celts and Germanics prior to Slavic expansions.
Dominic Ward
Weird isn't it? Eastern Europe has always been the crossroads of civilizations and religions, Slavs, Germans, Magyars, Mongols, Turks, Scandies, Orthodoxy, Catholicism, Protestantism, Islam. And as such there's a shitload of interesting conflicts. England is boring as fuck and France too, but France was at least relevant.
Adrian Jones
Nobody mentioned Poland.
Jordan Butler
The autochthonic theory still doesn't hold. There were no Slavs in Central Europe before migration period.
Jayden Morgan
There were, pottery proves that outright. >but muh Germans and Celts They lived side by side with the Slavs.
Kevin Davis
>pottery == language >pottery == ethnicity Most of the world have close to identical material culture, that doesn't mean we're all American.
Grayson Gutierrez
I trust pottery more than autistic linguistic reconstructions. Slavs aren't native to Eastern Europe, they expanded there from the west and displaced the original Finnic folk.
Landon Gray
MUH EURASIAN STEPPES
Blake Gray
>they expanded there from the west and displaced the original Finnic folk. That might be true east and north of Dnepr, but there's no data on Finns living western than that, to begin with. >displaced Assimilated. According to haplogroups, Russians are like 15% Finnish.
Caleb Gonzalez
>big countries think they're the shit and are willfully ignorant or just uninterested in history beyond the basic outline of their countries wew, cancel humanity I guess
Jace Sanders
>Why is Eastern European history so underrated? Maybe cause it ain't? And they all just useless outback farmlands of irrelevance and human toilet applicants.
Eli Hernandez
I'm getting really sick and tired of your shitposting, cockroach.
Ethan Price
can I unironically actually pay you to stop (shit)posting on Veeky Forums? Would you accept paypal?
Lincoln Green
>Huge empires fighting over them for centuries >Won wars against Russia >irrelevant backwaters
Lol
Benjamin Gray
or you could donate the money to Eastern Europe so we don't need to have threads like this to laugh at them
every dollar buys poor Stashek another toilet scrub and bottle of Domestos
Ayden Carter
name your price
Gavin Morris
More relevant than Australia could ever hope becoming.
Gavin Williams
take that back, yer poofter cunt
Jonathan Adams
Your shithole country is literally only known for having a bunch of weirdly mutated animals, if it vanished tomorrow barely anyone would even notice.
Leo Parker
Is he an Aussie roleplaying as a Turk or something?
Alexander Robinson
>Your shithole country is literally only known for having a bunch of weirdly mutated animals K*rds aren't that famous in the West, outside of their nests in Sweden and Germany. >if it vanished tomorrow barely anyone would even notice. I'm sure the Greeks would be thrilled.
David Wright
Yep he is.
Nicholas King
I wish I were surprised but it feels like I've seen everything on this shithole of a website already.
Kayden Cooper
No, they originated in modern day Saxony.
Josiah Gonzalez
Source? Everyone is talking shit ITT but has nothing to back it up.
Caleb Moore
Saxony is Eastern Germany dumbass.
Isaac Myers
How did industrialization occur over there?
Camden Thomas
PLC laid foundation for it pre-partitions. I imagine Greater Poland got industralized by Prussia after the partitions.
Isaiah Morris
Bohemia was one of the most industrialized regions of Europe throughout 19th century, not sure about the rest.
Hunter Lewis
Poland survived the plague because the spread was determined mostly by late medieval trade routes and mongol expansion. Mongols cut off trade from the black sea to Poland when they brought the plague to Genoan ports in Crimea, and trade typically flowed from East to West not the other way around. This meant that Poland had several years head start to realize what the hell was going on and declare a quarantine. It had absolutely nothing to do with the "superiority" of Polish laws or government.
Sebastian Carter
>It had absolutely nothing to do with the "superiority" of Polish laws or government. Yeah, no.
It had everything to do with Casimir the Great and his policy.
Oliver Wilson
Poland did have a well-run government that managed to enforce laws and it's border though which does make it superior. Danzig was a major trade port in the Baltic, but it's affect was minimal
Jack Roberts
literally 5 sec in google
Jordan Scott
more like they didn't poison their own wells
Anthony Gutierrez
Literally none of that applies to the Baltic "states".