Black people didn't exist in Roman Britai-

And in all those events you listed, where were the Sub-Saharan Africans?

bigot back to /pol/

I bet you drive a truck

...

>surely they lived under an oppressive, authoritarian and militaristic world empire, but at least Britain had ethnic diversity!

Actually, that Anglo-Saxon replacement theory has recently been reconsidered. There is a lot more genetic continuity with the Roman Britons than previously thought. The Briton blood still flows though pretty mixed

.t has no idea what he's talking about.

amazon.com/Blood-Isles-Professor-Bryan-Sykes/dp/0593056523

>This may well have included Sub-Saharan, or, at the very least, East Africans

So, basically, there is no proof of black presence in Roman Britain, just conjectures.

They probably left with the Rest of the Romans when the empire fell.

No Roman wanted to deal with their shit. Syrians, Greeks, Eutruscians, Gauls.

Every single one of them left. Tired of goat fucking celts.

Had to take the bat shit crazy Saxons get drive them out and they were worse.

What is it, a screenshit from Reddit?

> modern historians
Dropped here, it's irrelevant.

>may well have
they should show all the troops that were stationed there, not give black people special treatment.

as usual a minority gets special treatment over other minoritys.

>the state of reddit historians

This is my first visit and my post on history and humanities and sir I just want to say that you sound absolutely retarded.

How does "maybe there were a couple of sub-saharan blacks here and there in Roman Britain, we don't really know" transform into "you're a fucking racist if you think blacks weren't common in Roman Britain"?

also there's a plack at hadrians wall celebrating the fact that there were black people there.

no plack for the syrians or the iraqi's or the troops from southern france, just the blacks.

a plack for doing fuck all but exist.

seems fair.

Actually the Romans left Britain because of invaders on the continent.

All the Armies and leaders just up and left one day to since they feared getting cut off by the Vandals in Gaul

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End_of_Roman_rule_in_Britain

>407–410

>On the last day of December 406 (or, perhaps, 405[21]), the Alans, Vandals, and Suebi living east of Gaul crossed the Rhine, possibly when it was frozen over, and began widespread devastation.[20][22]

>As there was no effective Roman response, the remaining Roman military in Britain feared that a Germanic crossing of the Channel into Britain was next, and dispensed with imperial authority – an action perhaps made easier by the high probability that the troops had not been paid for some time.[3] Their intent was to choose a commander who would lead them in securing their future but their first two choices, Marcus and Gratian, did not meet their expectations and were killed. Their third choice was the soldier Constantine III.[23]
Coin of Constantine III.

>In 407 Constantine took charge of the remaining troops in Britain, led them across the Channel into Gaul, rallied support there, and attempted to set himself up as Western Roman Emperor.[20] Honorius' loyalist forces south of the Alps were preoccupied with fending off the Visigoths and were unable to put down the rebellion swiftly, giving Constantine the opportunity to extend his new empire to include Spain.[24][25].

Gauls were Celts too dumbass. And the Gauls were the type of Celts who weren't even in Britain.

What happened to all the French Celts?

>a plack

No one is saying that, dummy. What people are saying is that saying there were no black people in Roman Britain is stupid.
That one BBC cartoon portraying a black guy isn't out of the realm of possibility.

then who fought with king Arthur?

What is it with Boomers and Gen-Xers and negrophilia?

sorry plaque*

hey if they can get away with it , why stop?

He had to type all that shit and all he managed to say was "It's possible!"

Yeah, possible, but incredibly fucking unlikely and at best totally uncommon and unworthy of note, evidenced by the fact that there was obviously no documentation of any blacks in Britain.

>thinks the Celts were completely genocided and replaced by the Anglo-Saxons or that the Normans had much impact on the British genome

They're still there, only they speak a Latin language now.

nowhere in that post was evidence of sub Saharan africans being common in Britain presented, fuck off redditorscum, the BBC has a diversity quota end of story

except that isn't what happened you git.

the foreign conquerors were never numerous enough to replace the population. a guy with a bigger army shows up and gets to be in charge. the natives go along with it but are still the same people more or less. the next foreign invader shows up and the cycle repeats.

So you're just going to ignore evidence because it makes you butthurt?
Kek

>/r/badhistory
>describes irish indentured servants as a 'meme'
>denies african and arab slave owners ever existed
>truly believes 20+ million jews were gassed

hmm i wonder why that sub is considered a joke even amongst redditors

Didn't the Arabs export more black slaves than any other group?
Although they were treated more like sub humans than straight up cattle

north african muslims were still raiding europe take people as slaves, in the 19th century.

>Indeed Plinius wrote [10] that in 70 AD a legatus of the Legio III Augusta named Festus repeated the Balbus expedition toward the Niger river. He went to the eastern Hoggar Mountains and the entered the Air Mountains until the Gadoufaoua plain (full of dinosaur fossils). Gadoufaoua (Touareg for “the place where camels fear to go”) is a site in the Tenere desert of Niger known for its extensive fossil graveyard, where remains of Sarcosuchus imperator, popularly known as SuperCroc, have been found. Festus finally arrived to the area were now there it is Timbouctou. But a few academics -like Fage- think that he only reached the Ghat region in southern Libya, near the border with southern Algeria and Niger (however it is possible that a few "explorers" of his legionaries reached the Niger river, like happened in the Nile river exploration done under Nero emperor). Regardless, historical records demonstrate that Festus was astounded by the amount of technological and cultural adroitness the Africans in Niger beheld, calling them "the superiors of Rome in every aspect of the word, whom which my people could never hope to surmount". Bedazzled by the civility and the philosophical undertakings of this race, he even supposedly vouched to crown a member of the encountered Hausa tribe as the new emperor of Europe, but the declined out of sincerity and "the inalienable wisdom and kindness of his heart".
Cumskins
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Indeed, I know that. I meant specifically from Africa though.

Nordicist revisionism bothers me more than afrocentrist revisionism desu.

Fuck you nigger, whats wrong with driving a truck? I have shit that I need towed. Fuck you.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romans_in_Sub-Saharan_Africa

Oh shit

PJW is a joke but if he had just waited to call out the video where they show black Celts then he would have been in the right

It's called cultural Marxism and it's the Jewish plan towards white genocide by stripping all whites of their heritage and culture and promoting degenrate sub human negro and Arab prominence. The Jews push for race mixing open borders welfare state ,rewriting history, villianizing white historical figures while giving non white historical figures more credit then deserved...the Jews know that the only way they will conquer the world is by mongrolizing all the races and stripping their individual cultural identites leaving them with a globalist mentality. If you can't identify with something you tend to go for the generic Jewish contrived identity. .. this is the purpose for them bastardizing history...they own the media, they have usurped the influential positions in every major University, and they have created the laws which protect people's feelings allowing this disgusting debasement to continue almost unchallenged.lol the Jew Trotsky even invented the term "racist" in 1917...haha

Why do you think it's called the DARK ages user?

Oy vey goyim your anti semitism will soon be illegal! Oy gevalt! Remember the six trillion

Quod est verum

Nobody said black people didn't exist back then.

So let's say that over the 3 centuries there were a million Rome related individuals who were temporarily or permanently settled in Britain.

How many of that million would have been North African? A percentage or few at best.
Sub-Saharan African? No more than hundreds.
A handful of SSA slaves/gladiators can be assimilated to a gene pool(if they even were assimilated) and leave no obvious traces of themselves.

>Celts got BTFO by the Saxon invaders who mass immigrated and made the Celts be non-existent except for Ireland.
>Then the Anglo-Saxons had a bunch of rape babies by the Norman invaders (basically Franks)
>That leaves the Scottish who were basically descended from the Picts (but later got interbreeded by people from Norway), but Romans never settle up that far.
Except modern Brits are like 20-30% Anglo-Saxon.

Rest of them are still the same disgusting Breton creatures.

Modern Germans have Slavic admixture though.
I guess that leaves Danes as the last Anglo-Saxon type Germanics.

The major problem is that the description says it's a TYPICAL roman Briton family

The army left.

Not the farmers and the real estate holders.

Why is it incredibly fucking unlikely?

>Black egyptian joins legion
>Legion travels to Britain
>Gets awarded land

>Black slave sold in egypt to equites
>Equites moves to britain
>Slave buys himself free because his master is nice

Doesn't sound hard.

Do Black people even care about this shit?

Because the nigger in the video is a legate

Wow, is this true? Were the Greeks really Nordic before the Moorish invasion of Greece? I thought this was just a /pol/ meme.

that can't be real

youtu.be/Uxs7k5DtnYw?t=775

No one who knows the facts is claiming there were no black people in roman Briton, heck there were even black people in medieval England, the point is the cartoon purposefully misrepresents their numbers and importance

Fuck off you racist prick. Black people did a lot. Most of the architecture we look at as "Roman" architecture was designed by Nubians. Romans saw more in common with Africans then they did with Anglo barbarians, always remember that.

In response to this image:

"I don't see much of an issue, honestly. We know that Celts have invaded Asia Minor, and it's entirely possible that they could pick up some black mercenaries, and take black women with them on the way back. It's also entirely possible for a foreign strong man to become a baron – it's not exactly a high rank to begin with."

t. a /r/badhistory """""""""""""historian"""""""""""""

I will laugh my ass off if they do an African version and they are all black.

>Asia minor
>black mercenaries

"it's very possible that the Ptolemy dynasty who had holdings and clients in Asia Minor could have possibly sent nubian troops there, some of whom would have been captured by the Galatians and possibly sold into slavery to other celtic or greek merchants who would have somehow sold them over in Massilia to a retainer from a britonnic family who would have sent them back to Britain and those nubian slave's kids would have grown up as free warriors serving with the celts. See, perfectly historically plausible".

t. /r/graspingforstraws

why are both sides so fucking retarded?
Yes there were some (let's be generous and say 0.01%) of subsaharian legionaries in the 400 hundred years of Britain occupation but saying they were the norm is simply false.
This all situation is alarming both for the general ignorance and for history revisionism

r/AskHistorians is the unholy combination of autism and modern academia.

Yes.

This whole argument is bullshit.

The fact is that the BBC wanted to be inclusive so portrayed some Romans and Celts as black in an educational animation short.

If the BBC wanted to reflect the multicultural element of Roman Britain they would have focused on depictions of people from anywhere around Mediterranean. Instead they chose evidently Sub-Saharan Africans (basically what West Indian people look like) because that is a byword for inclusion and racial tolerance.

It seems statistically likely that there were at least some Sub-Saharans that made it to Roman Britain, but to give them greater emphasis to the exclusion of other ethnicities present in demonstrably larger numbers, is a kind of madness.

>black egyptian

Fuck off to >>r/cuckhold

>entire image of British racial superiority in late 19th century built on arguing that the best crop of every one of the many groups to move through Britain in historic and prehistoric past contributed to a select elite hybrid ethnicity
>entire image of British identity in 2017 threatened by admitting that black people existed in Roman Britain
wow it's almost like race science is complete ideological bullshit that's made up of nothing but projections on projections

The transformers

Britain was never garrisoned by any Legions raised in Africa though

>likely that there were
>wide range of ethnicities
>may well have included
>roman empire facilitated ethnic diversity
>perfectly plausible

Yeah, now you know whitey. All your history was full on blanda upp. It's not like peoples of europe were, and are, distinct even today. Let alone thousands of years ago..
How in the fuck can't educated people see they're spinning a political agenda here.

Not sure if this is bait....

>sir
Go back to Redd*t you fucking piece of shit. Actually, just kill your self.

>reddit post
>evidence
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA

>I have shit that I need towed
Like your girlfriend ?

>evidence
??????

>Black egyptian
Right out the gate you come up with something utterly false.

>Yes there were some (let's be generous and say 0.01%) of subsaharian legionaries in the 400 hundred years of Britain occupation
How do you know this? The idea of black Romans or black legionnaires relies entirely on supposition and could've beens.

Because fuck Gypsies

Keep dreaming Tyrone. Stop trying to steal culture from Guidos.

Doesn't surprise me that a Plebbitor supports this revisionism. Go back to your cesspool.

>Because it's in the realm of possibility that Blacks were in the UK during Rome's rule, it should be pushed as propaganda to the youth that there descendents weren't actually Anglo-Saxon but really Kangz.
Neck yourself as soon as possible

yes.
So much so that modern Egyptians are actually less related to ancient Egyptians than ALL modern and ancient European groups.

Dont see why he should. Sven and gustav try and claim guido achievements all day long.

Yeah, they had plenty of cultural, economic, and political connections. Romans were deeply involved in the Nile trade and the Red Sea trade, to a lesser extent trans-Saharan commerce too.

During Late Antiquity lots of interesting things happened: Romans backed sides in Axumite civil wars, and were later repulsed; Christian missionaries spread to Ethiopia from Roman Egypt and Sinai; St. Thomas even went to modern day Gao and founded a Christian community there.

There are and were lots of black people in Egypt. Not the ancient Egyptians, and definitely not the Pharoes, but Egypt consistently had Nubian and Axumite traders, settlers, migrants, and slaves from its earliest history. Having free black people in Roman Egypt is almost certain.

Guys /r/bad history is a satire subreddit.

>Eutruscians
Do you mean Etruscans?

Why are they so interested in memeing this all of a sudden? Because PJW said some shit?

>user clearly states that he's quoting someone
>another user even quotes from the same thread
How stupid are you