I don't understand why formation matters...

I don't understand why formation matters. Obviously the side with more well trained soldiers and better weapons would win.

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Here's the trick, it is because they are well-trained that they are in formation.

>Well trained and equipped modern infantry charges a WWI trench across no-mans-land

Morale is everything bro. All that stuff you mentioned is secondary. What is in a man's heart and in his mind is what motivates him to great deeds, history-making deeds that is.

the color green can't do thermodynamic explosions so the sun wins also green is a gay ass color

wtf is a thermodynamic explosion?

You must be trolling nigga. Sun tzu is the best entry level teachings on the subject... Nigga you dun goof'd question formation....a battalions greatest strength is it's discipline.

Geniuses pick green

I thought effective communication between the armies command and other elements would be its greatest strength, but I could be wrong.

John Green bro. Look him up he is a hive of historical knowledge.

It wasnt dicisive in the heat of the battle , in these days of hand to hand combat, every unit was given predetermined directives or goals based on strategem, only during extreme circumstance was communication so depended on. It's not like in movies when you see the general micromanaging every unit, a commander chose his unit leaders with the intent of them thinking in tandem with him, only during extreme circumstance was communication so depended on...

The effectiveness of that depends on army discipline

The effectiveness of everything depends on discipline

>not choosing green

brainlet detected

Suetonius BTFOing Boudica is a perfect example of why formation matters


>10,000 Romans annihilate 230,000 Britons by holding and then advancing in formation
>230,000 Briton subhumans in no recognizable formation, and who've hemmed themselves into a fucking gorge with their baggage and civilians blocking their retreat get rekt

Rome was literally built on the back of strong formations because they so often fought cultures that still memed muh freee warrior spirit and fought in disorderly fashion


nigga they use formations in sports right now, they obviously matter

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>Mutual support of those around you.
>intimidating to the opposition.
>boosts moral of your own troops.

230.000 dead Britons? The highest numbers I've heard of were 80.000. Sounds like you're bullshitting.

Well...if a unit is fighting and especially the center cant keep a formation locked in then that fighting unit is then split in two, which makes it easier to kill.

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Well all of that matters, u make it seem like its one or the other. Usually an army that can master all of that will win. But if I had to say what was the best it would have to be either communication or formation.

>underrated joke

obviously didn't mean literally all the Britons were killed

that accounts for the soldiers + the carriage full of children and women

Have you ever played flag tag and noticed the team who stays in tighter formation almost always wins? It's hard to stab at one dude if the guy next to him cuts your throat while you're distracted

what the fuck kinda flag tag are you playing?

cutting people's throats...damn...

if you collected every green photon in the universe and fired them at the sun, the sun would explode, more green photons would replace those lost but the sun would be no more

well trained guys in the wrong place are not as good as a lot of shitty guys in the right place

>Oy vey goyim thats right, get in files and ranks

explain how the Hannibal did one of the most miraculous thing in warfare and encircled a larger force with an army with a half barbarian army

>I don't understand why formation matters.

Some generalised points:

>Effective and efficient application of weapons

In melee combat, the use of a weapon has a very limited range and specialisation, to apply this effectively in killing the enemy requires placing your soldiers in an efficient formation. A well organised formation also at the same time limits the effectiveness of enemy weapons.

>Protection of tactically vulnerable positions

A tight mass of men is a terrain obstacle as much as anything else, this must be kept intact and orderly so that it may be used to shield vulnerable positions, particularly light troops, artillery deployments, command positions, and flanks of other formations.

>Morale and cohesion

The most important factors ultimately. In a tight and disciplined formation, soldiers are not likely to flee when charged by heavy cavalry, or bombarded with missiles, or similar shocks. In order to instill discipline, uniformity of action is key (this is still core to military drill today), this means standing in lines and orderly ranks, acting as one, everyone obeying uniform commands.

Secondary to tactical resilience is the strategic cohesion it allows. If your army is comprised entirely of units deployed in tight, well kept, and orderly formations, communication becomes much easier, assessing the strengths and weaknesses of your current position becomes much easier, adapting your deployment to enemy manoeuvres becomes much easier and can be accomplished in better order and faster.


The result of an entire army deployment consisting entirely of well managed, disciplined and orderly formations creates a force that can use its weapons most effectively while mitigating enemy effectiveness, leading to better casualty infliction/absorption rates, while being more resistant to shock engagements, and capable of altering its deployment faster and more efficiently, allowing for superior adaptation to changing conditions and enemy dispositions.

what is a green photon?

You mean that army which spent several years wrecking the Romans?

Their cultural background may have been barbarian but they were every bit as good soldiers as the Romans they faced.