Russia and the United States

This. Holy shit.

Russia today (KEK) lacks the ideological and economic power the Soviets had. Russiaboos jerking off about Russian values and Russia conquering Europe are deluded.

Russia is a corrupt semi fascist shithole plagued by drugs,alcoholism and rampant corruption that is encouraged in the political System.

It is caught between two much stronger powers.

China has a stronger military and endless manpower and a much stronger industrial base.

The EU is even wealthier and has a superior Industry and is lightyears ahead in technology.

China would easily win now. The EU would have to get its shit together and raise a lackluster EU army to be vastly superior.

Also the EU and China are pulling away Russian Satellite states with greater economic and cultural pull. See Eastern Europe and Central Asia.

>China would easily win now. The EU would have to get its shit together and raise a lackluster EU army to be vastly superior.
Nah. Nukes mean that nobody's invading Russia any time soon.

The beauty is that they don't have too. Russia has to be expansionist reclaiming Russian lands. Russia is the one that would invade (wouldn't happen though).

>Not only purposely misinterpreting the statement but also attacking the person behind it instead of the
>Making a strawman and half-way trough it saying "nah fuck it let's just attack the writer"
How will I ever recover?

pizza > borscht

China's military is a joke compared to Russia's, manpower doesn't mean shit in the age of radars, unmanned missiles, nukes,aircraft carriers, and jets.

China also buys most of its weaponry from Russia, they might be an economic powerhouse, but in terms of power projection, and militarily they are ten times lower compared to Russia and US. Of course Russia is a shadow of its former self after the collapse of the USSR.

The difference that your analysis misses is that China is not yet powerful enough to be the superpower rival the Soviet Union was, as to oppose the US, they might become in the future, but if you look at the alliances Russia is building with Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Turkey , and all of Turkic "stan's", you will realise why the US is so hell bent in fucking with Russia in the Ukraine and Syria.

Russia has the second most powerful military in the world, and is relatively stable with great social cohesion and little unrest.

Brazil has a very small military, and its social cohesion/political stability is shit. Its not all about the money my friend.

>there's an idiot here unironically comparing Russia and EU
Jesus Christ.
In any case EU won't survive next decade.

I forget who it was way back in the early 1800's (Toqueville?) who said that Russia and the US had parallel history because they both slowly spread over a continent against native tribes

“There are at the present time two great nations in the world, which started from different points, but seem to tend towards the same end. I allude to the Russians and the Americans. Both of them have grown up unnoticed; and whilst the attention of mankind was directed elsewhere, they have suddenly placed themselves in the front rank among the nations, and the world learned their existence and their greatness at almost the same time.

All other nations seem to have nearly reached their natural limits, and they have only to maintain their power; but these are still in the act of growth. All the others have stopped, or continue to advance with extreme difficulty; these alone are proceeding with ease and celerity along a path to which no limit can be perceived. The American struggles against the obstacles which nature opposes to him; the adversaries of the Russian are men. The former combats the wilderness and savage life; the latter, civilization with all its arms. The conquests of the American are therefore gained with the ploughshare; those of the Russian by the sword. The Anglo-American relies upon personal interest to accomplish his ends, and gives free scope to the unguided strength and common sense of the people; the Russian centres all the authority of society in a single arm. The principal instrument of the former is freedom; of the latter, servitude. Their starting-point is different, and their courses are not the same; yet each of them seems marked out by the will of Heaven to sway the destinies of half the globe.”

Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

>China's military is a joke compared to Russia's, manpower doesn't mean shit in the age of radars, unmanned missiles, nukes,aircraft carriers, and jets.

w e w. China actually has the Industry and economy to support a strong army. Russia basically has a Saudi tier economy fully dependent on oil.

>The difference that your analysis misses is that China is not yet powerful enough to be the superpower rival the Soviet Union was, as to oppose the US, they might become in the future, but if you look at the alliances Russia is building with Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Turkey , and all of Turkic "stan's

Russia meddles in the Middle East, without being able to afford that. Iran is commited too being the regional power in the Middle East. Russia will have a bad awakening when Russia and Irans interest don't align anymore.

Turkey is basically the same. And way to dependent on Europe too seriously commit too Russia.

Iraq, Niqqa please. Iran is running that show.

>In any case EU won't survive next decade.
>muh unstable union, muh brexit meme

Even if the EU shrunks to a hard core(in some weird absolutely unrealistic Nigel Farage dream): Benelux,France, Sweden, Denmark and Germany and Austria it is still leagues more powerful than Russia.

Niqqa Russia has a GDP smaller than Italy. Dependent on Oil. In a global market with a low oil price at least for the foreseeable future. Thats no condition to play a great power meddling in world politics.

I don't understand why the promoting of our values are in America's interest.

Nah OP you're right
>"With the defeat of the Reich and pending the emergence of the Asiatic, the African and, perhaps, the South American nationalisms, there will remain in the world only two Great Powers capable of confronting each other—the United States and Soviet Russia. The laws of both history and geography will compel these two Powers to a trial of strength, either military or in the fields of economics and ideology." - Hitler, 2 April 1945
>"There are now two great nations in the world, which starting from different points, seem to be advancing toward the same goal: the Russians and the Anglo-Americans....[E]ach seems called by some secret design of Providence one day to hold in its hands the destinies of half the world." - Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835

china and the EU have nukes too
Russia's not invading them either cause if they're crazy enough to try, russia only has a handful of cities that contain most of the population, infrastructure, ports, and economy.

For now. However it's still multitude of states, not a real state, and Europe is declining as whole.
Meanwhile Russia has great potential.
And don't forget demographics...France will be at least 20% Muslim in two decades, maybe even more.

yeah, and modern air transport of troops makes their mud season and winter worth jack shit.

The United States and Russian Empire were good buddies until the Soviet Union happened and since then Russia has been the aggressor for no reason.

>Europe is declining as whole.

It really isn't. And even if it would decline, then russia would decline way faster by every measurable indicator.

>it's still multitude of states

Yeah and Italy, France and espeically Germany have way more potential as a single state even. Also the EU is in a state of not yet state hood but being more than a alliance.

>And don't forget demographics...France will be at least 20% Muslim in two decades, maybe even more.

Another survey by the Pew Research Center, in May 2017, found that 10% of Russia's population is Muslim.[6] According to a news article of Russia Today, Muslim minorities make up approximately 15% of the total population of Russia.[7]

You're joking right? U.S. dindu nuffin? Its all Russia's fault?

Russia was agree to become high tier vassal of USA like West Europe or Japan in 90ths and about till 2007.
But USA had different plans.
Since then Russia became stronger, but of course not strong enough to be rival for USA.

Real rival is China.
China's GDP (PPP) already exceeds the one of USA.
But most of US politics are too afraid to confront China directly, so they decided to take Russia under control first.
This strategy would allow to encircle China completely and strangle it slowly.
Looks like it didn't work, so Trump was elected.
He will start conflict with China, but will be made into scapegoat if the situation goes into unfavorable direction.