Womemes can be histo

>womemes can be histo.....

>Veeky Forums is a high quality content bo---

>Diversity in the Roman empire
Italians, Greeks, Germanics, Celts, North Africans, Semites?

She's annoying. She claimed the Romans had no police force of any sorts.

Do I trust user, posting tweets that made him butthurt or do I trust a qualified historian?
Probably what she meant anyway.

Ah yes and the occasional nigerian
sure thing fampai
>qualified historian

I'm not an expert in this topic so I'm just going to have to go with the internationally renowned and award winning professional historian, who is a professor in a relevant field at arguably the world's top university and not the crazy, completely unqualified Youtuber and conspiracy theorist.

Well the nigerians sure as shit wouldn't be in roman Britain. That would have been mostly mixed race Italian/Germanics and Celts

These faggots got BTFO by Paul fucking Joseph Watson. They are clearly retarded

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Whoah
You sure convinced me.

I didn't know mixed race Italian/Germanics and Celts had black skin.

>this is real in my mind

Sure thing, user.

Where was I implying that blacks were common in Roman Britain? Clearly I was arguing against that. I think you missed the comment section of pseudo-intellectual youtube channels.

except they also put black celts, back normans, black norman noblity, black anglo saxons...

Now yes, there was the occasional black man who found his way to the shores of Briton over the course of two thousand years. but especially after the roman period they were never a significant part of the population in comparison to today. A look at the ethnic make up of Briton then vs now makes it clear that the genetic make up of the average British man has hardly changed since ancient times, even with multiple invasions.

The people who made this were clearly motivated by something other than historical accuracy.

No she was clearly trying to say that Britain was majority black until evil whitey crackas exterminated them all and invented slavery.

Are you new here?
Italians are black!

this board is dead

ITT: people actually arguing Roman history with Mary Beard

So which university are you all professors of classics at?

such a sad post
Veeky Forums should be deleted

>appeal to authority

A perfect way to answer an ad hominen.

>skin color is the only thing that determines ethnicity
can /pol/ fuck off already and stop talking about shit they know nothing about???

>there were North Africans in Britain
>THIS MEANS THERE WERE SUB-SAHARANS THERE AS WELL

And so did the cuckolds of Veeky Forums cheer, while making an espresso for post-coital snacking for their bulls

>e a world expert in a subject, teaching the subject at one of the most prestigious places in the world, having spent a lifetime studying and researching the subject
>a bunch of contrarian memelords

Sorry for taking the position of one over the other.

Give me one reason why I should take Anglo and American universities seriously.

Then tell your butt buddies to stop shoehorning niggers into every aspect of European history.

>/pol/ gets BTFO by one of the world's top classicists
>starts whining about their weird fascination with cuckold porn again

Because they're regarded as the best in the world and have been for centuries?

The funniest part is that you keep using all that words... Someone would call it projection.

Swing and a miss.

You'll see in my post (if you paid attention, which considering your intelligence might be too optimistic of me) that I acknowledge that there WERE indeed North Africans there.

But, and this is a crucial point, the legate/tribune in the video is Sub-Saharan.

Now shoo, Jamal needs to get prepped again.

they were white back then
they become black when the Turks conquered Southern and Center Italy

/r9k/ and /pol/ posters should be permanently IP banned from this board

Post any proof at all that roman Britain was full of black people

>regarded as the best in the world
By Anglos and Americans themselves. Kind of a useless point.

Women should, not even memeing.

Why don't you ask Mary Beard?

CRIKEY, RACISTS IN MY HAUNTED WOODS? NOT TA WORRY LOVES, I'LL BE ON BROOM RIGHT AWAY

>Niggers automatically assume diversity means more niggers

Yes, because no one from outside Britain or the US sends their kids to Oxbridge or Harvard, right?

>Swing and a miss.

Nope. You were gibbering away about cuckold porn once again. That guy doesn't look anywhere near dark enough to be Sub-Saharan BTW.

In other words, you have none and neither does she.

How does it feel knowing Paul Joseph Watson is smarter than you?

Nubian warriors were common and highly regarded in Rome

Aren`t American Universitys a meme for having the people who teach in them create propaganda for their own world view in class.

You're right friend, this right here is a defender of the Aryan Race.

Might want to get that eyesight checked out, big boy.

Nupo!

You're not providing a coherent argument. British historians have been regarded as remarkably shitty and biased, so how is an Anglo teaching at Anglo university supposed to be an unquestionable authority on anything?

How is a black African in any way a "typical family" (BBC's words) in Roman Britain? Sure, there would have been a few black Africans in the Roman Army, but certainly not the majority, and moreover, the Roman occupying force itself was small in proportion to the extant Celtic population of Britain. So no, not typical.

I hate the alt right as much as the next guy, but this is clearly just not correct.

Just another example of white genocide in action. Fucking (((SJWs)))

WE WUZ RETARDZ N SHIEEEET

Shut up nazi

"Pretty accurate", "plenty"? They muddy the water. The only evidence I've ever heard of was a few skeletons of probable Roman auxiliaries, and like one upper class girl. And even then it wasn't skeletons of subsaharan Africans, it was North Africans/Syrians. Most of the auxiliaries would have been Gallic/Germanic.

If there was a consistent presence of such remains in Roman settlements, then, sure, that would be firm evidence of ethnic diversity (in the 21st century sense, of course). The only thing these skeletons prove is some soldiers died in Britain.

Is it possible that maybe, one Syrian soldier settled in Britain and took a native wife ? That a North African merchant settled there to import ressources ? Sure. But that's not proof of diversity. That's an anomaly. Expections that proves the rule. And I think don't exceptions should be the way to teach kids about History.

And these historians fucking know this, they're too intelligent not to, and that's what drives me nuts. Just because they agree with the political message, they throw principles out of the window. Cite your fucking sources, you old cheese-toothed loony witch.

>let me intentionally misinterpret what she said to make my point
What's it like being retarded?

DELET THIS

Still looks like a Berber rather than Sub-Saharan, not even dark enough to be a Nubian, both of which would be found in Roman Britain.

She just said ethnic diversity, which as said probably just means all the constituent peoples of the empire.

>neither does she

Have you asked her? What did she say?

>British historians have been regarded as remarkably shitty and biased,

She's a retard who shilled retarded revisionist history and deserves to be mocked for it.

Mate he's full on Bantu tier, get your eyes checked.

See

It seems to me that she agrees with the idea of a black legionnaire. This is not impossible and so it makes sense why she'd agree. It seems like she didn't watch the entire thing though, because I doubt that she'd agree to black Celts and even a black signer of the Magna Carta. Looks like this was just a one off remark based only on the picture.

Nice weaseling senpai.

She knows damn well what PJW meant by it

Why would "typical" necessarily be referring to skin colour unless you were obsessed by race? I don't suppose the families of Roman officers are necessarily "typical" either.

And why make such fuss over the description given to the video by the 18 year old intern that uploaded it onto Youtube, unless you are looking for something to be butthurt about? There isn't even any claims in the video itself that it represents a "typical" family.

Funny, that isn't attributed to Mary Beard. What did she say to you when youbasked her?

It's literally an accurate statement. At no point does she specify she's talking about black people

Rubbish, not even close, in fact he could be a dark Jew or Arab.

Watson said that Roman Britain wasn't ethnically diverse, which is just wrong. Obviously the BBC greatly exaggerated the extent of the diversity and if Beard had looked into it closely she would've disagreed with the BBC's depiction as well, but Watson himself was just wrong.

They're also clearly rich and own multiple slaves. They're certainly not portrayed as typical in any way.

Because the video, and other videos in that series, proceed to have black celts, black normans, and fucking black Iron age inhabitants of britain.

The agenda is clear.

How is that even relevant given the video is about a Roman officer's family not the general British population?

Look at the thing she was talking about.

Its a black as coal roman soldier talking to kids while their vaguely tanned mother looks lustfully at him

You're a really stupid person user

t. retard.

Please pay attention to OP's image. Wicked Witch here claims that Roman Britain was ethnically diverse, yet here it says that Roman Britain was overwhelmingly indigenous.

WE

Damn, that Idris Elba sure gets around

>dark Jew or Arab
haha or "tanned german" amirite?

Why? Because you said Mary Beard doesn't have any proof, but you have yet to say how she responded when you asked her for proof?

>dark enough to be a berber

Here's the most famous Berber that I could think of. Dark indeed. You're probably thinking of the Tuaregs. They are a Berber-speaking people, that's true, and they do have dark, African people among them. Some look mixed. But these people are descendants of slaves and metal workers, and Tuareg society has such a rigid caste system that most of them wouldn't consider the darker-skinned ones to be real Tuaregs. Upper castes look simply Berber.

Also, Nubians in Britain ? Why the fuck would the Romans go look that far for auxiliaries, when they had plenty of tribes fighting to fight for them right across the Channel ?

Was getting blacked part of your plan?

Are you fucking retarded?

How the fuck am I supposed to prove a negative? You're really stupid

>berber
>this dark
Leave my board brainlet

You snowflakes get triggered so easily.

>cherrypicking

The Roman one I thought was fine because you could explain that away by Romans importing African legionaries but there were no black Celts or Arabic Normans. This is fucked.

Your waifu's argument is "read my friend's blog"

This is your "qualified historian"

>he thinks Berbers are niggers
They're unironically much closer to Europeans than to blacks.

Depending on the lighting and whether he has been sunbathing recently Zidane could easily pass for the guy in the pic.

This.
Also tuaregs and the other sahara tribes lived way south of the roman territory, they were not a part of the roman empire.

Oh man,I didn't know they put Black people in all these eras. I could defend the Roman ones, kinda, but fuck that.

just look at all the butthurt that paul watosn guy caused with one tweet.

Yep, confirmed blind

>tfw Veeky Forums is currently the only place where obnoxious liberals and overworked /pol/tards collide in the most cringe worthy scene for any to witness
Between the "have you asked her?" faggot and the "REETAAARD" guy, I actually lost interest for history

>leyenda negra
>Gibbon
>Paul Johnson
>Kershaw

Here's a page from "Sorcery, Totem, and Jihad in African Philosophy" by Christopher Wise

This isn't your board, you are just visiting from /pol/.

>"qualified historian"

t. someone with learned everything from Rome: Total War

The Roman one is a huge ass stretch as well

Look up "Kabyle people" or "Kabyle women" on google images and see for yourself whether they look like niggers then.

>being able to type "berber" "into google images makes me an expert on North Africa