Does this makes sense?

>America splits from British empire
>France imitates this with French Revolution
>many rich killed in France both good and bad just because of their money
>communist and collectivist ideals grow in France
>anarchist / communist conventions in Paris etc.
>Karl Marx emerges as the head idealist in this group
>writes communist manifesto
>Serbian terrorists kill arch Duke FF
>greedy Austrians use this as an opportunity to invade Serbia
>Russia gets involved
>then Germany
>French follow
>SHTF
>Germans lose
>treaty of Versailles
>communist revolution
>Germany gets shit on by treaty and attempted communist coup in late 1920's Weimar rebellion
>que perfect storm for hitler to rise to power
>invades Danzig corridor to link eastern Prussia with heartland
>starts attacking Western Europe for some reason
>WW2
>USA and Britain side with commies
>somehow the Jews/masons fit in to all of this

And it all could have been prevented if America doesn't revolt against the crown

France didn't imitate America you dumb fuck. It was a revolution instead of a war for independence and was fought for wholly different ideals and with very different consequences. Early American political philosophy is constantly picking apart the separation between what the US did with what France did.

Do you think that if America never revolted the French Revolution would still happen?

Yes. Have you ever read French philosophy or gotten a sense of French identity in the 18th century?

>greedy Austrians use this as an opportunity to invade Serbia
>Russia gets involved
>then Germany
>French follow

Wrong order, faggot
It's
>Austria attacks Sebia
>Germany gets involved and involves everyone around through random war declarations

Not quite. The French Revolution wasn't about communism nor Anarchy, and the enlightenment was what influenced the American revolution philosophically, and the French troops that aided the Americans did get to experience the American ideals firsthand

I agree. I believe that the things that happened during the French Revolution set the seeds for communism to grow
>like killing rich farmers because they must be food hoarders if they are rich

Kek, "we wuz gud boys, we dindu nuffing"

>Russia didn't mobilize first
>There was no Triple Entente
>France would have stood beside a Russo-German war

No the american revolution as well as the french who have experienced it threw europe into revolutions. Without the american rev and their ideals monarchies would still reign powerful.
wrong.
It was not about communism (technically) but same with the american one. The american revolution can in someways be seen as the birth of communist ideas due to the ower given to the lower class, everything after such as the french revolution built up for communism (which the french one was about).

>Without the american rev and their ideals monarchies would still reign powerful.
[citation needed]
most of the philosophers who contributed to these revolutions were Europeans, not Americans. also, French Revolution was an idealist one for the formation of a bourgeoisie (middle class). the character of the French Revolution was one that emerged from uniquely French 18th century philosophy, including the idea of a public sphere at all. French philosophy was foundational in influencing a lot of the Founding Fathers' rhetoric and philosophy in the Constitution, so the chronology gets mixed up since Amerifats look at the date of the Constitution and the date of the French Revolution and don't understand continental intellectual history or public opinion at all.

the one thing that the American War for Independence did for the French Revolution was precipitate the chronic lack of funds for the French monarchy that allowed the bourgeoisie to more easily rise up, but the cultural and economic trends of France meant that the revolution was somewhat inevitable. if the Americans and British had settled their differences and Americans worked into a constitutional monarchy a la modern Britain, the French would still have thrown off the yoke of monarchy sooner rather than later.

>Amerifats
jealous europoor detected.
None of what you said is correct and i can smell the butthurt from here.

>>America splits from British empire >France imitates this with French Révolution
What did he mean by this?

i'll add to this by saying that one simply has to look at the ideals and directions of the wars:

>War for Independence
-angry self-interested landowners
-tax evaders
-diverse groups of thought (embodied in 13 different colonies that didn't even really properly unify for 20 years after the war and still needed a Civil War 100 years later to sort some basic shit out) united by desire for liberty
-extremely British viewpoints on individualism and protection of the minority from the majority

>French Revolution
-anarchists and intellectuals stoked fires
-radicalization of French Enlightenment ideals
-establishment of a new political economic order (the bourgeoisie as a class were a unique phenomenon that would radiate outwards - comparing the dissolution of monarchy in France to the overthrow of it in America is like calling Nazi Germany and USSR "authoritarian" - technically correct but lumping together two entirely different strains of thought and history because of your typical American small mindedness)
-almost fundamentally based on collectivism, which the Americans would see as mob rule

i'm an american who thinks that americans should have to learn history better in high school so that dumb fucks like you don't overexaggerate our place in world history. seriously, show me a serious historical journal article or book written by an actual academic and not Bill O'Reilly or something that says that the American War of Independence precipitated the French Revolution. you can only possibly show me American textbooks approved by the Texas school system that have such a cavalier, chauvinistic attitude about this time period.

FUCK, the American War for Independence was funded BY the monarchy of France lol

>The american revolution can in someways be seen as the birth of communist
Elaborate further. If you mean that everyone is equal on the law is what gave rise to communism then no. Communism was a reaction to the industrial revolution, and the rise of the working class. Even though Marx wasn't part of it, etc etc. I'm not trying to justify communism

You even have Lafayette, the fucking "Hero of Two Worlds", trying to avoid what happened for his own country. Dude even supported the reinstated Bourbon.

You've nearly reached the same conclusion Moldbug did.

America was made up of mostly independent, or at least realistically potentially, yeomen farmers. America, for white men anyways, was actually fairly egalitarian. The situation in France was radically different, the lives of the grand majority were already doomed to a great dependence on market forces. The French/American revolutionaries were influenced by the same enlightenment ideals but the actual conditions on the ground drove them in different directions.

The elaboration of this would be that although the lower have revolted in the past and numerous times, they never finally succeded with a sovereign state that gave these same people the ability to protect themselves with almost as good weapons as the official military. The american revolution first had a nice foundation of government which was probably one of the most progressive (or at least liberal) of the time; the english parliament. With this parliament and the revolt against a monarchy, the lower class of the colonies mobilized along with their middle class counterparts (similar to the french revolution when the bourgeois led the sans-culottes) but these middle-class people did not abandon the lower class. The ideals that the french used for their rights of man and citizen could be from original thought when not downright copies of american ideals, but even then these things would not have been fully conceivable as a functioning state if they didn't have a real life example to follow.

Communism starts with the want to create large governments by including many in the government, this is show by the french creating so many communes that they had no idea what to do with all of them (not tht that's bad). This is something the americans had helped shape with the multitude of states with counties who all vote and shape their communities instead of being shaped depending of what nobleman owns what land.

Another thing americans created into a real society was the one which gave the worker the rights to his work. Private property in the americas was accessible to even the lower classes and not just blue collars which made it so farmers tended their own land and gunsmiths engineered their own devices (this is something communists wish they can achieve).

Communism was "born" in the french revolution and reborn in the 1840s, not by marx.