The Romans thought Rome would last forever

The Romans thought Rome would last forever.

it literally did
most powerful nations who control the world are all children of Rome

It did.

well Rome it's still there

No, they didn't?

>Scipio, when he looked upon the city as it was utterly perishing and in the last throes of its complete destruction, is said to have shed tears and wept openly for his enemies. After being wrapped in thought for long, and realizing that all cities, nations, and authorities must, like men, meet their doom; that this happened to Ilium, once a prosperous city, to the empires of Assyria, Media, and Persia, the greatest of their time, and to Macedonia itself, the brilliance of which was so recent, either deliberately or the verses escaping him, he said:
>A day will come when sacred Troy shall perish,
>And Priam and his people shall be slain.
>And when Polybius speaking with freedom to him, for he was his teacher, asked him what he meant by the words, they say that without any attempt at concealment he named his own country, for which he feared when he reflected on the fate of all things human. Polybius actually heard him and recalls it in his history.

This took place in 146 BC.

That's like saying my great great grandfather never died because he had children. Are you a brainlet?

Dont be a faggot, Luís Vaz de Camões also said that when he died cause the hasburg inherited Portugal, and check it out, they still exist and did greater things

The roman empire never fell

He isn't implying Rome died then.
He is disproving OP's claim that Romans believe Rome would last forever.

Your great grandfather never died

Did his great great grandchildren share his values?

Well Rome still exists, it's the capital of Italy

Ok, sorry, although i read it, i didn't take the time to understand it
But they did live on, southern european languages are basically vulgar latin with it's own touch

>Capital of Italy
>not using the fact that Vatican City is there

Dead language, dead culture and empire. Rome eternal lol.

Do modern Roman successors share Roman values? The answer is no.

>idea of a civilization is a person
>language, law and justice system, government institutions, martial conventions, fucking months in the calendar that took over literally entire world by now are irrelevant, because there aren't fucking SPQR flags waving everywhere.
and you have gall to call other brainlets?

Dare it say it... Emperor Trump

>Dead language
B-but is still official in the vatican...

and law
and science
and everything official
and every fucking moron knows at least a word or two
hardly dead if you ask me

That's an irrelevant hodgepodge, like saying the Arab caliphate is still alive because we use Arabic/Indian numerals. Get lost nigger.

It's pretty fucking dead. You can probably count on the fingers of one hand the number of people on the planet today who can actually have a fluent Latin conversation, taking a Latin course in high school and knowing some vocabulary or how to translate some text isn't the same thing as the language being alive.

>american writing

who cares about Catholics

literally fucking neck yourself you condescending fuckwit

>Being this retarded

>language
Dead. Vulgar latin is only used as a sociolect in certain circles, while the roman language family is at best second-tier
>law and justice
Only pop-historians claim this.
>Government institution
See law and justice above.
>Months
Days of the week are named about Norse gods. Does that make them relevant, too?

Tl;Dr fuck of romaboo

>he doesn't know what Roman law is
Basically, the only non-retarded law system on this planet is based on Roman law.

The Pope is still the Emperor of the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire is alive and well, and it's been ruled by a nearly unbroken dynasty descending ideologically from Jesus Christ. The Romans are still here - they just lost.

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter'd visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp'd on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock'd them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

When did they ever say something like that?

>tfw some of the best leaders of rome are forgotten
Julian the Apostate, the scholar that fucked off from rome and studied academics in greece until he was thrown into gaul by his cousin who eventually rekt and became emperor, very intelligent but died in battle too early, easily could've been a top 10
Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus, who was literally the best dictator ever, a simple farmer that was elected by the roman senate twice to save rome, each time stepping down respectfully, with taking just over a month of dictatorship to save rome twice

Rome still stands.

Why are the best always forgotten?

This is actually more true than you know. The Senate fucked off and became the papal Curia. At first it started as an old folks home, but then it outlasted the original institutions.

putting the institutions aside Rome was originally a small city state.Its still a city and capital of Italy which is more territory than Rome after the Pyrrhic war.

The Roman Empire and civilization has fallen but in a twist of irony more people know of its history and culture now than there were people then

It's still a city, innit?

well cincinnatus was 5th century BC, and Julius isn't as well praised as he should because he died too early to see his plans through, and changing the state religion from christianity back to the old gods only ~40yrs after Constantine wasn't too popular either

>The Pope is still the Emperor of the Roman Empire
>The Pope is the Emperor

lol

>2017
>Rome still exists

They weren't entirely wrong.

>connecting the Senate to the Catholic Church
>Pope is Emperor
Veeky Forums is becoming more autistic than /x/ these days

Reminder

>Aquatic Roman Empire
Gets me every time.

>t. alberto barbosa
Portugal has been mediocre to irrelevant for the longest time

>b-but its influence lives on!

>clinging to ancient glories of a foreign nation
mindcucked wewuzzers

>dead language
Nigga wut?

>Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus
>forgotten
Dude he's always lauded as the best thing to happen to Rome between the Rape of the Sabine Women and Scipio Africanus.
Plus, he didn't do jack shit out of the ordinary; dictator was a temporary office to begin with. The only thing notable was that he was one of the first Romans born without a memory of the Tarquin monarchy and therefore might have been able to make himself king but didn't - in fact, he surrendered the office AS EXPECTED (and rarely did a dictator refuse - and when they did it was disastrous and never successful), retiring to his farm to fuck his slaves.

>retiring to his farm to fuck his slaves

So have been all european countries, meanwhile all african, asian and south american countries are still shit and north america is full of cuckolds

Well, so far so good right?

Reminder that the Roman Empire, Roman Catholic Church, Mussolini, and the Nazis are all on the same team. And Rome's cores in Italy are required in order to form the EU.

Thats basically the entire reason we reproduce though.

>eastern whore
Thats Cleopatra

Roman state didn't last, but their legacy does.

ah op the constantine pose

The Americans thought America would last forever.

>The Pope is still the Emperor of the Roman Empire.
Soooo why did that nigga saw fit to crown some filthy Frank as "Emperor of the Romans?"

Hmm...