What drives anti-Semitism?

All the unwritten rules on how you can't be mean to a jew without being a Nazi, they are basically invincible because of their holocaust history

Gypsies are bums and thieves though. Jews are successful and rich.

Muslim money

>Jews aren't thieves

They aren't?

>Jews
>not thieves
My sweet summer child

The Jews.

Most of it is a way to critique the existing political and economic order without doing anything to change it. It's not a surprise that after the Edict of Grenada, the local populace had no scapegoat in Muslims or Jews so in lieu of that they went after the foreign born King of Spain upon being enthroned, when the Comunero Revolt broke out.

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OH GWOD EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG BUT US!

Existance of Jews

Have you ever read the reasons given for expulsions? They were usually retarded Catholics butthurt over "Host desecration."

>why are you mad that we spit on your traditions goy? Don't you like Jewish humor what's wrong with you goy?

youtube.com/watch?v=uCodaoMt8XE

>But an entirely new situation was created when, from about the year 1000, the Western portion of the Consensus found itself suddenly in the field of the young Western Culture. The Jews, like the Parsees, the Byzantines, and the Moslems, had become by then civilized and cosmopolitan, whereas the GermanRoman world lived in the townless land, and the settlements that had just come (or were coming) into existence around monasteries and market-places were still many generations short of possessing souls of their own. While the Jews were already almost fellaheen, the Western peoples were still almost primitives. TheJew could not comprehend the Gothic inwardness, the castle, the Cathedral; nor the Christian the Jew's superior, almost cynical, intelligence and his finished expertness in " money-thinking. ' ' There was mutual hate and contempt, due not to race-distinction, but to difference of phase. Into all the hamlets and countrytowns the Jewish Consensus built its essentially megalopolitan — proletarian — ghettos. The Judengasse is a thousand years in advance of the Gothic town. Just so, in Jesus's days, the Roman towns stood in the midst of the villages on the Lake of Genesareth.
>But these young nations were, besides, bound up with the soil and the idea of a fatherland, and the landless "Consensus," which was cemented, not by deliberate organization, but by a wholly unconscious, wholly metaphysical impulse — an expression of the Magian world-feeling in its simplest and directest form — appeared to them as something uncanny and incomprehensible. It was in this period that the legend of the Wandering Jew arose. It meant a good deal for a Scottish monk to visit a Lombard monastery, and nostalgia soon took him home again, but when a rabbi of Mainz — in 1000 the seat of the most important Talmudic seminary of the West — or of Salerno betook himself to Cairo or Merv or Basra, he was at home in every ghetto.

That was the official reason. Truth is jew were unpopular and hated by the lower class because of all the extortion and usury. So usually to appease the masses they were kicked out.

>In this tacit cohesion lay the very idea of the Magian nation1 — although the contemporary West was unaware of the fact, it was for the Jews, as for the Greeks of the period and the Parsees and Islam, State and Church and people all in one. This State had its own jurisprudence and (what Christians never perceived) its own public life, 2 and despised the surrounding world of the host-peoples as a sort of outland; and it was a veritable treason-trial that expelled Spinoza and Uriel Acosta — an event of which these host-peoples could not possibly grasp the under meaning. And in 1799 the leading thinker among the Eastern Hasidim, Senior Salman, was handed over by the rabbinical opposition to the Petersburg Government as though to a foreign state.
>Jewry of the West-European group had entirely lost the relation to the open land which had still existed in the Moorish period of Spain. There were no more peasants. The smallest ghetto was a fragment, however miserable, of megalopolis, and its inhabitants (like those of hardened India and China) split into castes — the Rabbi is the Brahmin or Mandarin of the ghetto — and a coolie-mass characterized by civilized, cold, superior intelligence and an undeviating eye to business. But this phenomenon, again, is not unique if our historical sense takes in the wider horizon, for all Magian nations have been in this condition since the Crusade period. The Parsee in India possesses exactly the same business-power as the Jews in the European-American world and the Armenians and Greeks in southern Europe. The same phenomenon occurs in every other Civilization, when it pushes into a younger milieu — witness the Chinese in California (where they are the targets of a true Anti-Semitism of western America), in Java, and in Singapore; that of the Indian trader in East Africa; and that of the Romans in the Early Arabian World.

t. Moses Shekelberg

>In the last instance, indeed, the conditions were the exact reverse of those of to-day, for the "Jews" of those days were the Romans, and the Armsean felt for them an apocalyptic hatred that is very closely akin to our West-European Anti-Semitism. The outbreak of 88, in which, at a sign from Mithridates, a hundred thousand Roman business-people were murdered by the exasperated population of Asia Minor, was a veritable -pogrom.
>Over and above these oppositions there was that of race, which passed from contempt into hate in proportion as the Western Culture itself caught up with the Civilization and the "difference of age," expressed in the way of life and the increasing primacy of intelligence, became smaller. But all this has nothing to do with the silly catchwords "Aryan" and "Semite" that have been borrowed from philology. The "Aryan" Persians and Armenians are in our eyes entirely indistinguishable from the Jews, and even in South Europe and the Balkans there is almost no bodily difference between the Christian and Jewish inhabitants. The Jewish nation is, like every other nation of the Arabian Culture, the result of an immense mission, and up to well within the Crusades it was changed and changed again by accessions and secessions en masse. 1 One part of Eastern Jewry conforms in bodily respects to the Christian inhabitants of the Caucasus, another to the South-Russian Tatars, and a large portion of Western Jewry to the North African Moors.

>What has mattered in the West more than any other distinction is the difference between the race-ideal of the Gothic springtime which has bred its human type, and that of the Sephardic Jew, which first formed itself in the ghettos of the West and was likewise the product of a particular spiritual breeding and training under exceedingly hard external conditions — to which, doubtless, we must add the effectual spell of the land and people about him, and his metaphysical defensive reaction to that spell, especially after the loss of the Arabic language had made this part of the nation a self-contained world. This feeling of being "different" is the more potent on both sides, the more breed the individual possesses. It is want of race, and nothing else, that makes intellectuals — philosophers, doctrinaires* Utopists — incapable of understanding the depth of this metaphysical hatred* which is the beat-difference of two currents of being manifested as an unbearable dissonance, a hatred that may become tragic for both, the same hatred as has dominated the Indian Culture in setting the Indian of race against the Sudra. During the Gothic age this difference is deep and religious, and the object of hatred is the Consensus as religion; only with the beginning of the Western Civilization does it become materialist, and begin to attack Jewry on its intellectual and business sides, on which the West suddenly finds itself confronted by an even challenger.

Nobody likes the guy they owe money to. Usury is a sin in both the Bible and the Quran, so Jews essentially had a monopoly on loans. That's where the money hungry Jew stereotype comes from anyway. Also Christians in general weren't to fond of them due to that whole Jesus thing.

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In the Poland-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Jews had the privileged but much maligned position of being the tax collectors for the aristocracy. Personally I think this is where anti-semitism in Europe stems from.

Oh those poor Jews! The same thing must have happened in the other 358 cases! It just, keeps happening! What do you know?

>What drives anti-Semitism?

the truth about jewish world domination through financial and political institutions, the jewish ran media and lobby

Doesn't that mean that Jews are the master race if they have this much power?

You are retarded. They were mostly poor as fuck. Way poorer than the average European, you revisionists are pathetic. It's in their last names, "Kushner" was a fur trader

no. that means that their parasitic character enabels them to survive on our civilisation which they want to destroy, or better say, judaize and weaken, so they can control us easier. the jewish spirit, religion, character, psyche, culture, mentality is very primitive and decadent.

>What drives anti-Semitism?

Europeans are just mad that Jews civilized them, that's all.

Only in the sense that the protozoan is "superior" to the host. Sure they can live as long as the host survives, but they are lower life forms.

wtf, I love Jews now, maybe the Anglo was right to side with him

Im familiar with the alleged many expulsions.But yea all the usury, mercenary behaviour and charges of ritual murder didn't help.

>What drives anti-Semitism?
Inferiority complex. Notice how everyone who hates Jews are simultaneously LARPing as Jews. Black Nationalists hate Jews, always like to LARP as Jews. Europeans hated Jews, while always LARPing as Jews.

Source:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Israelism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Israelism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Israelism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bnei_Menashe
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Israil
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bene_Israel
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bene_Ephraim
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Israel_(Ghana)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rastafari
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hebrew_Israelites
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Identity
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_Mormonism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria_and_Germany_in_Anglo-Israelism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Kashmiri_descent_from_lost_tribes_of_Israel
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theories_of_Pashtun_origin#Bani_Israel_theory
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groups_claiming_affiliation_with_Israelites
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claim_of_the_biblical_descent_of_the_Bagrationi_dynasty
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelite_Church_of_God_in_Jesus_Christ

Existence of jew I guess. Kinda hard to be antisemitic if there are no semites around.

>Gypsies are also universally hated
Yeah but for entirely different reasons

Multiple factors. Jews are very successful and powerful on average, they tend to keep their own culture rather than assimilating, their religion says that they're god's chosen people, and their religion is to Christianity like a father is to a son.

fuck christianity and fuck jews and judaism

>arrogance
>tribalism
>hostility to outsiders
>inbreeding
>thieving and cheating
>physical ugliness
I'd say they are hated for the exact same reason. Gypsies are literally the jews if jews were poor.

>Ancient Jews behave like other Near Eastern tribes with heavy in-group bias
>Jews develop monotheism, distinguishing them from their neighbors
>Jews migrate abroad after a failed rebellion, settling throughout Europe and the Near East but not assimilating due to their distaste for Roman pluralism
>Polytheists convert to Christianity en masse but the Jewish rabbinical establishment successfully guards the religion from much Christian influence. Life is peaceful pre-Crusades, but deteriorates and massacres/host desecration/blood accusations happen very frequently.
>As an international people, Jews facilitate long-distance trade after the fall of the Roman Empire, merchant communities develop along the Rhine and become Yiddish
>Church bans usury, but encourage Jews take this up as a profession, so they can expel the Jews and free the debts at will. Ghettos develop in European cities and Mellahs are created in Muslim lands
>Catholic Poland and Islamic Spain become centers for Jewish life
>Jewish bankers come to great international prominence after Italian and Dutch merchants lay the foundation for capitalism
>Appreciation for wealthy Jews leads to a slow process of toleration and appreciation in the 17th century, Jewish banking families settle throughout Europe and the US
>Napoleon gives equal rights to Jews in his society, full Jewish emancipation becomes a major liberal cause

The most genius divide and conquer tactic ever. Jews look greedy in the end, because "MUHH USURY" even though all the wealth and property is seized by Europeans and they end up making all the profits. The fact that this thread is filled with "USURY USURY USURY" proves how successful the Church was.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_Jew
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_Jew
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_Jew

This isn't /pol/.

jews have done little to stop being the go to scapegoat in every situation

>Jews are only hated because they're rich!
They were poor as fuck until the 19th century and everyone still hated them for millennia, that argument doesn't hold up.

If facts are /pol/ then I'm /pol/

Exactly, not to mention places where they were rich early on they were not hated. The Jewish merchants in India were rich as fuck and no Indian ever said a word about them. However, the Ghetto-Dwellers in Europe and the Middle East were facing massacres all the time. Often times over stupid shit, the reasons varied.

Subjective opinions aren't facts. You are /pol/ if you just say "they are ugly inbred thieves." People like you ruin actual conversations and getting down to the real historical reasons things happen. Jews were hated in Europe because they killed Christ, not how they looked.

People hate the gypsies because they are ugly inbred thieves indeed, and they do hate the jews for pretty much the same reason.

>ugly inbred thieves

You are projecting pretty hard right now white boy. The biggest act of theft in history was European Colonialism, and the most inbred people in history were European royalty.

>subjugating and eslaving indigenous people
You mean like the Jews did in Canaan?
>vultures who leech off cultures
>only known for dividing the world
Fuck off back to SA with your post-ironic maymays.

The average peasant was far more inbred than the average royal. Shit like Spanish Habsburgs was the outlier, not the norm.

Fuck gypsies. Fucking scum are a pox on Europe.

dunno, never met one

>You mean like the Jews did in Canaan?
Not a historical event, but you can try again. Also Jews never did that either way because Jews didn't exist at that time in history. Those were the Israelites before they split into Jews & Samaritans.

Tricking people out of all their money isn't thievery though. Its not the Jews' fault goyim are all gullible subhumans.

Jealousy

Blood libel, war profiteers, usury, sucking baby cock, Marxism, Zionism

This. It is 100% self inflicted

It's jelousy to a great extent. Jews are industrious and successful, and have been for a great deal of history. It is this fact combined with them being a minority, who do not follow the status quo in culture and religion. The poor have always held antipathy to the rich, and if the rich are outsiders then this antipathy will surely be exacerbated.
This is just wrong. Jews been known for their commercial success for a very long time. Here is my evidence:

>In July 1492, the new state of Spain expelled its Jewish and Muslim populations as part of the Spanish Inquisition. Bayezid II sent out the Ottoman Navy under the command of admiral Kemal Reis to Spain in 1492 in order to evacuate them safely to Ottoman lands. He sent out proclamations throughout the empire that the refugees were to be welcomed.
>>He granted the refugees the permission to settle in the Ottoman Empire and become Ottoman citizens. He ridiculed the conduct of Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabella I of Castile in expelling a class of people so useful to their subjects. "You venture to call Ferdinand a wise ruler," he said to his courtiers, "he who has impoverished his own country and enriched mine!"
Bayezid addressed a firman to all the governors of his European provinces, ordering them not only to refrain from repelling the Spanish refugees, but to give them a friendly and welcome reception
>Egger, Vernon O. (2008). A History of the Muslim World Since 1260: The Making of a Global Community.
>The Jewish Encyclopedia: a descriptive record of the history, religion, literature, and customs of the Jewish people from the earliest times to the present day, Vol.2 Isidore Singer, Cyrus Adler, Funk and Wagnalls, 1912 p.460
(Pic is Canterbury Cathedral)

Middleman minority. See also: the Chinese in southeast Asia, Lebanese in Africa, and Armenians in the Ottoman Empire.

Yes, but I'm just talking about what drives anti-semitism now, which is what OP seemed to be asking.

I still don't understand what's supposed to be so bad about "usury". Can somebody explain it to me? It seems fair to charge interest for loans, not to mention it does a lot to enable modern capitalism.

You don't understand, it's only bad when Jews do it.

Fucking kikes demanding interest in exchange for taking on the risk of lending me money

Actually being told that we're just "just jealous" for resenting outsiders that push into our countries and work their way into power is one of the main drivers of anti-Semitism.

If Jews are so great why must they always go to other people's nation's to do so, rather than staying in their own and being great there?
>w-we lost our country actually, and can't get it back...
Yeah, really a """"successful""""" people.

If Americans are so great why did they have to go to the New World to do it, rather than staying in Europe and being great there?
>w-we couldn't make it in Europe
Yeah, really a """"successful"""" people.

Jews always seem to rule everything and everyone in these stormfag scenarios, that seems pretty successful to me.

lol

Depends at what point in history and where. In the modern arab world? Israeli terrorism. In the modern western world? A bunch of retarded conspiracy theories derived from nazi propaganda. Before that? Usury, closed culture, killed muh god, and a bunch of myths.
The only ones that are partially to blame for the hate are the ones that support israel's actions. Anyone who hate jews based on /pol/ conspiracies and medieval shit is plainly retarded.

I wasn't implying that you were jealous, I was implying that the urban poor of Europe and the Middle East throughout history were. I think you're anti-semitic because you spend all your time on forums and don't go outside. Seek sunlight immediately.

Americans didn't take over America by pretending to be loyal members of the Algonquin, Cherokee, or Cheyenne tribes, and changing their laws to better serve us. We established an entirely separate society and drove the savage tribes from their lands by force.

>What drives anti-Semitism?
Common sense.