Why is Japan so full of communists?

Why is Japan so full of communists?

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It's really not. The most communists in that country are in the PTA, which has a lot of power, but only over the schools. And not in the way you think.

Japan is a collectivist hivemind society, they do not value individualism.

Communism didn't take root in Japan at all. Thanks Macarthur

How old is that? That 國 is too kyujitai for me

Probably Taisho Era

japan is an alienated nightmare ofc people are going to look for alternatives to the system that causes it

Please elaborate!

Absolutely wrong. Japan's communist party has 300,000 members, the largest of any first world communist organization.

Not much to say, there's just a lot of communists in the PTA. They only are really in control of the schools, but the control they have there is hiliariously powerful. The Japanese school system has always bowed to the whims of the PTA.

Google says the 1930s.

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Japan's communist party is the biggest in Asia (in a non communist country ofc)

They actually had to suffer under Fascism and aren't Alt-right basement dwellers.

That's only like .2% of the population

>Live in a first world country that displays the wonders of based capitalism
>Be communist
What's wrong with them?

30 years of terrible recession

The ruling party, the Liberal Democrats, have only 800,000 members.

Communists, numerically, are more than a third as strong as the ruling nationalists.

>Live in a first world country that displays the wonders of being a slave cuck puppet to JEWSA

That's really interesting. So is there actual discussion about Marxism and imperialism in Japanese high schools?

Are communists clashing with the nationalist government in the attempts to rewrite history textbooks?

Yeah but the LDP will literally never lose outside of freak occurances. It's hard to explain but here's a video on it, but I warn you that it's a literal powerpoint presentation and it's over an hour long.

youtube.com/watch?v=LG-UEE0a3aI

No they're more like anti-stratification, since Japan was brought from a feudal society to a modern one so quickly they still sorta retained their version of a caste system, and even though that's still gone its effects are still around. They're mostly just the people that want Japan to acknowledge its war crimes more publicly than it already does.

Was not a communist actually. He was from the smaller Social Democratic Party, which today is in coalition with the Communists and the center-left Democratic Party (second biggest party after the right-wing Liberal Democrats)

You can say, just as easily, that industrialization and a liberal tradition make Japan comfy.

All of Japan's problems however, are directly tied to capitalism.
>crazy work culture
>expensive childrearing
>increasingly few job prospects for young people
>corporatized culture

so if I teach English in Japan, will I have to deal with communist colleagues telling me to push their agenda?

Not really, but Japanese communists aren't like western/soviet ones anyway.

Yeah, unlike /leftypol/, most of them will only tell you their political views only if you are a close friend of them.

I meant more of their goals. They're a lot less radical than their western counterparts and most of the things they want are things that have been normal in our society for decades.

They had over 10% of votes in the last two elections.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_general_election,_2014
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_House_of_Councillors_election,_2016#Results

Yeah but because Japan runs on a clientelist-based system, the LDP only need to win the rural districts (despite being a small part of the population) and they always will maintain majority. I refer again to the video I posted, it's a system that kinda perpetuates the maintaining of the LDP's power.

Communist as hell for a first world country

Given the rise of leftism in US and Britain in these past years (and the political inclinations of Gen Z) I bet our politics will look a lot like Japan soon

I doubt it, Japan is the way it is because of centuries of isolation. I can't imagine we'll ever become as collectivist as them, especially since they're right wing collectivist.

The Japan's ever ruling party LDP is "leftist" enough from the view point of western countries. They are reluctant to free market and free trade. They love welfare and hate the idea of small government.

>comparing social democracy movements in Britain and USA (Bernie and Corbs) to parliamentary Stalinist's in Japan
Our politics will look completely different.

No, it really isn't. Protectionism and welfare can be facets of policy used by the right (see: Fascist Italy/NS Germany), hell even that fag Trump loves protectionism and corporate welfare.

The thing is they don't care about those things for idealogical reasons, they do it because it makes them keep winning elections.

Because that's the real nature of conservatism. No ideology, just tradition and customs. LDP politicians don't seem to understand what capitalism is.

>LDP politicians don't seem to understand what capitalism is.

To them it's little more than a means to an end. Besides, of course they're pro-protectionist, welfare and all that. Japan sees all its people as one important family unit, or at the very least they're SUPPOSED to.

>a confucian society
>believes in big government
Color me surprised

That sounds like a big Community-ism, a.k.a Communism.
Japan is not a truly Confucian society. Confucianism is respected, but didn't take root in the end. Essentially, Japan is a Buddhist society. There are literally thousands of Buddhist temple in Kyoto, while no Confucian facility is found at all.

>That sounds like a big Community-ism, a.k.a Communism.
Believing in your nation all being one big community isn't hard when you are already an ethnostate.

Collectivist society =/= communism

>That sounds like a big Community-ism, a.k.a Communism.
Fucking Americans.

>Japan is not a truly Confucian society. Confucianism is respected, but didn't take root in the end.
I guess the Confucian Revival in China from the 1500s-1700s never happened, nor were the establishment of Confucian academies by Shogunal decree of the Tokugawa. Nor was the basis of Japanese nationalism stemming from the "Sonno" and "Kokugaku" rhetoric which emerged out of the Confucian Academies.

See, it's elite culture just like Christianity after Meiji era. Confucianism never prevailed in common people. While Confucian was literally worshiped as a religion in China and Korea.

>Confucianism never prevailed in common people.
But it did. Your mistaking Japanese religious beliefs with their social philosophies. As such, it was still Confucian.

Let's not even forget that the Tokugawa Period was the first time in Japanese history that schooling was available for the public. And that was mostly handled by educators steeped in Confucianism. The highest academic attainment in the Tokugawa period was achieving a scholarly rank from the Confucian Academies. The chief of which was the Shoheiko Academy in Tokyo.

Japanese social and work ethic is Confucian- hell, Neo-Confucian actually. Near-total deference to superiors, total filial piety. And so on.
>While Confucian was literally worshiped as a religion in China and Korea.
Chinese Folk Religion =/= Confucianism. There are overlaps as regards to Folk Confucianism, but it wasn't a full religion in and of itself. Considering that Muslims, Christians, and Tengri Worshippers in the Chinese empire were also Confucianists.

Good post, you know your stuff.

>The highest academic attainment in the Tokugawa period was achieving a scholarly rank from the Confucian Academies. The chief of which was the Shoheiko Academy in Tokyo.

Is this why Tokyo U is so hard to get into?

Offtopic but apparently my grandfather went to Todai in the 50s despite being a normal white guy from Oklahoma. I wonder if the entrance exams back then were as hellish as they are now.

Because Japanese like foreign things like Russians or Americans without realizing what foreigners and foreign concepts really are.

The same reason why they find black people exotic because they have no experience of living around them.

>a confucian society
>believes in big government

>being this dumb
Read up on the "Discourses on Salt and Iron" during the Han Dynasty you dweeb. Confucians argue for limited government, hell Confucius himself even argued that the ruler should rule through his virtue where all men will follow instead of law.
>While Confucian was literally worshiped as a religion in China and Korea.
god fucking gweilo

I follow a commie website just to keep up with their bullshit, and they featured an article where they basically called Abe and the LDP the literal devil. And what "western right wingers dream of, in a nice package".

How does centuries of isolation lead to communism? Even North fucking Korea is very international in its socialism

That's cool, you mind elaborating?

at least they are homogenous are not cucked by sandnigger.,SJW and other bullshit.stay mad cuck

Are you having a stroke?

Absolutely ignorant post, Japan is by far the worst 1st world country to live in, I come from a 3rd world country (Morocco) and I went to Japan in a doctors abroad program for 2 years, it's absolutely horrible, people are working 15 hours a day just to barely afford a living wage

Your so-called "social democracy movements" in Britain and USA are far more worse(or perverted, degenerated, degraded) than Stalinism in some degrees, far more deceptive, they're the very root of most issues we faced today, truly a cancer of modern world, and a slow death of humanity, far harder to cure than Stalinism.

the government does a lot to purposefully avoid projecting this image.

it ends up being profitable to hide most of the large scale problems japan has. being a salaryman sucks but it's less visibly painful than being a day laborer or doing some other shit work, so they went and turned sanya into a cheap hotel area for foreign tourists. there's still rural low income areas that are getting worse but westerners don't go see those so people forget they exist.

>Confucianism is respected, but didn't take root in the end. Essentially, Japan is a Buddhist society.
Being a Buddhist doesn't contradict with being a Confucianist at all.

>There are literally thousands of Buddhist temple in Kyoto, while no Confucian facility is found at all.
What is this?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yushima_Seidō

I see you don't really know the relationship between Japanese Bushido, Meiji Restoration and Neo-Confucianism.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Confucianism#Japan
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibusawa_Eiichi

the absolute state of capitalism apologists

>the japanese mainstream is devoutly religious
>what is syncretism

you are retarded

Japan has very low turnout. So if the JCP gets 10% in an election, but there's 40% turnout, only 4% of the population are actually communists

Tokyo is full of africans and chinese tho

>chinese
Correct
>africans
There's more whites, southeast Asians, and latins than black

I can't say much about him because he killed himself years before I was born. I know he worked for Merck in the agricultural division so maybe he went to Todai for that.

Collectivism =/= communism, user.

That'll change once the population goes down, then they can afford to pay more and there'll be less unemployment. Same thing happened in Europe after the black death.

The system is rigged anyway, and not in the secretive "they control the vote" way. More of the gerrymandering kinda way where rural votes matter way more.

This, asians are like collectivist insectoid drones

Japan is not racist, they are very tolerant and welcoming desu.

I dream of a day when JEWSA is nuked to ashes and removed from every record on Earth

Japanese socialists never really took root, so that left some space for the communists.

>>Being a Buddhist doesn't contradict with being a Confucianist at all.
I agree, I assert Confucianism is far less popular among Japanese people then Buddhism.
>>What is this?
Yushima is in Tokyo, not Kyoto. Again, center of Japanese culture is Kyoto. Tokyo is a capital made by Samural rather recently. For example, there's only one national treasure architecture in Tokyo while Kyoto has over 200.
>>the relationship between Japanese Bushido, Meiji Restoration and Neo-Confucianism.
I know, I know. They are all Bushi, who were elites with education. Because Confucianism is convenient for justifying the shogunate rule. And Bushi were only 5% of Japanese population at that time. Their knowledge of Chinese history and culture back fired against Bakufu when Meiji Restoration. Like Mito school and Sonnou Joui.
But today almost no Japanese people worship Confucian and know almost nothing about Confucianism. We do have culture which has roots in Confucianism, such as respect for elders and predominance of men over women etc. But the rituals and practitioners of Confucianism have almost vanished in Japan. What influences Japanese mentality is after all Shinto and Buddhism. That's what I meant when I said Confucianism didn't take roots in Japan.
あと、俺日本人なんだよ? 英語見れば分かるだろ。

what a sad life you live

Interestingly, a pew research survery found that among the big east asian nations, Japan is actually the least collectivist of them, aside from Hong Kong which isn't a nation.

Confucianism has survived as a philosophy, not a religion. Its effects persist in Japan systematically whether you want to call it Confucianism or not. Tatemae, the culture of indirectness, giri, stuff like that all derives from confucianism.

お前の英語知識は足りないんだ。分からなかったら論じるな。

Which is interesting to see how they measure it, because compared to Western nations there is a strong sense of "face" and adhering to the social norm, even in Hong Kong.

Nibba look at Japanese history textbooks

What are you idiots doing by comparing party member numbers in the 21st? The Golden Age of the Political party was over after WW2. Catch-all parties destroyed the membership-based party strategy before your grand-parents were born.

>He thinks a country can afford demographic regress and economic stagnation under capitalism
Why do you think Germany, France, the U.K, and the U.S have always been open to immigrant workers, capitalism is a system that requires growth for the sake of it, it's not some centrally planned economy that only produces according to it's population

bury it deep yamaguchi

Do you think the US has 300,000 avowed communists?

Because when your comparisons are the Koreas, Indonesia, and fucking China, yeah it's not hard to be the least collectivist country in the room.

Japan isn't a big fan of overly capitalist models though.

Demographic regress is going to happen anyway. A third of the population is like over 80, they aren't going to live forever, and quite frankly they're a drain on the younger generation since they're retired.

>JEWSA
Please, eat your tinfoil hat and grow yourself a brain.

It isn't, really.

The thing is that communists in Japan occupy the same niche that far-right nationalists occupy in the West. They are the perennial opposition that gain 10% or 15% of the vote in every election but will never gain power because most of the population reject them.

The fact that this perennial opposition in Japan is left-wing speaks volumes about the conservatism of Japanese politics compared with the West.

The Japanese were the least to suffer under their government, they enjoyed the fruits of colonising the Pacific and china

Well except for the point where their supplies got so low they started starting and men would sell off their daughters to prostitution just so they would have enough money for food. Interestingly it was that exact thing that made the postwar government make prostitution illegal.

Atomisation is strong in Japan as much as in Western developed countries. The hikkimori/NEET is not respected there

started starving, I meant

I don't know about that. The JCP is miles farther to the left than any politician in America

Japanese are responsible communists not obsessed with this social politics crap western retards are focused on.
Also any progressive and regulatory legislation gets called communist in the US and many lesser developed countries anyway.

I dunno man, Japanese communists are very pro war, feminist, pro immigrant

Yeah but our actual politicians are mostly center. The crazy left never gets into office.

Anyone can be for opening up the country from total isolationism. Regarding feminism I guess a lot of the popular media there promotes it and it seems to tame the men more. Obviously opening the country to immigration in combination with this would be detrimental.
Is the pro war part about freeing theirselves from US control and becoming more militaristic?

He's retarded the Japanese left is basically pacifist

They want to change the constitution and have a military, but only to kick out (and defend from) the US

JCP wants to revise the amendment that says they can't have a military but keep the amendment that says they can't invade other countries

ironically enough the JCP isn't what I would consider the true Japanese far left, that belongs to these guys- who funny enough are the party
belonged to
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democratic_Party_(Japan)

Uh why

JCP is much more radical

well an obvious one is as
noted, the JCP is not opposed to having the SDF, but would make sure it couldn't launch any foreign expeditions or help the US.
the SDP would unironically pretty much dismantle SDF and reduce it to basically being used as border guards and for disaster relief.
The JCP does have a much harder hate boner for the US though, I think the Chinese would orgasm if they ever got into power

It's like someone dared you to be as /pol/ as possible while being nice to foreigners.

How can one man be so mad