What destruction of important historical artifacts and/or remains angers you off the most?

Someone is upset.

Personally, I'm against the Confederate Statues. This country shouldn't reward treason and failure.

>important artifacts
>pair of imperial pleasure boats

Choose 1.

How can they be traitors when the US has recognized confederates as American veterans

>Some of the biggest boats built in history
>literally the largest of their time
>floating palaces with modern plumbing, ceramic and marble tiles, statues, decorated with bronze, structures built on top, bigger than many modern vessels
>"unimportant"
Niggers like you are a worse cancer to Veeky Forums than /pol/ is.

Because they killed other Americans in a war in America and were later re-integrated into America.

They still killed their countrymen. They fired the first shot. They chimped out when the North dared to ask that they modernize and not keep slavery around to embarrass the rest of us.

They're traitors.

See why every last Yankee piece of shit deserves a one-way trip to a death camp.

Every singles fucking Northerner needs to be exterminated down to the last man, woman, and faggot pronoun. Death to the Union and death to ALL Unionists. Don't spare a single one or the vermin just spread.

You're a Jew attempting to shift white nationalist focus from antisemitic national socialism to Southern white identity, there is absolutely nothing Southern about you.

>claim to be the land of liberty
>don't allow its citizens a liberty to own other people or freedom to try to found their own nation

Sasuga yanks.

Out the helicopter with you crypto-commie piece of shit

>there is absolutely nothing Southern about you.

31 of my ancestors fought in the Civil War, all for the Confederacy. How 'bout you nigger lover?

As a southerner with a long and extensive southern heritage does that not make you far more likely to be racemixed? Sorry for washpo, cbf digging up the academic source

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They are apparently melting down some artifacts in Sweden from the Searaiders time period.

The reason given was that they have no room for the bloody things.

I have no fucking clue how you can treat your history like that

it's painfull really

Reminder that Christians are no better than Muslims in terms of historical destruction and barbarism.

Everything, including the commie statues, to the Buddhist statues in Asia destroyed by isis

>positive Liberty
What a fucking joke

>MUH ICONS
Fuck off, pagans.

Icons belong destroyed, pagan. You are the barbarian.

500 years ago.

Eurangatans destroying African history

This, and I don't really even care about the middle east. You don't destroy statues thousands of years old, you just don't.

Why?

they only destroyed the ugly ones

delete this you fucking libtard cuck

How can you have history if it is never written down?

Yeah they were about equal in that regard in the middle ages. Sadly the Muslims stayed that way.

fuck it still hurts

Because it's something irreplaceable.

How's it feel being part of the Union, southerncuck? I realize most of your states are still shitholes but hey you did that to yourselves. Southerners. Not even once.

I think destroying them is stupid, but they should be put in museums.That's where they belong. They shouldn't be in parks or glorified. They're the statues of losers and traitors. Mostly traitors.

So? It's trash. Fucking emotional teenager.

None of my ancestors were retarded enough to lie with niggers (thankfully)

We're gonna put the Union to the torch and put every last stinking Northerner to the sword.

The only good Yankee is a fucking dead one.

Get back to us when you have some industry and money to do it with, cottonboy.

>They chimped out when the North dared to ask that they modernize and not keep slavery around to embarrass the rest of us.

The hilarious part is that the North hadn't even asked anything of them. They lost their shit just because a guy was elected.

I'm sure there's no-one around like that today.

Wrong. Muslims were infinitely better than Christians in the middle ages. Whilst Christians destroyed & burned countless works of antiqual writings and works and priceless discoveries because they thought they were heretical works of witchcraft, while they destroyed almost all remains of ancient Rome and even partially dismantled the Coliseum, razed the temple of Iupiter Optimus Maximus, quarried the Circus Maximus for marble and materials, toppled many of its columns, all orders from popes to build their own castles, and rented out its remaining structures as residences, Muslims treasured what they found of the antiquities. The writings of most ancient historians mathematicians philosophers and astronomers, most of their work, most of their writing, was translated and preserved by who? Muslims when they conquered Anatolia. They brought lost languages back to life, translated manuscripts, revived the works, translated them, made copies, and stored them in the largest library of its time that housed the largest number of scientists of different religions, speaking different languages, all under the same big roof. A gigantic 'university' if you may, called the House of Wisdom at Baghdad.
Alot of the books and writings were lost in the Mongol sack of baghdad, but Nasir al-Din al-Tusi, a Muslim scholar, managed to save ca. 400,000 manuscripts from the library before the siege, thankfully.
Artifacts and remains were also not tempered with by Muslims. Many Roman, Persian, Assyrian, the three grand Egyptians Pyramids that would've been quickly destroyed had they been in Europe by zealous Christians mistaking them for religious idols of pagans, survived for centuries among Muslims.

ISIS destroying Palmyra, fucking beheading the chief the 82 year old chief archeologist there, bulldozing nimrud, blowing up the mosque of Prophet Jonah in Mosul and ransacking the library there etc. etc.
When i heard that they had also trashed Dura Europos i got really upset. They claim to be returning to the ways of the prophet and his companions but why did those historical sites remain until today if the prophet and his companions hated them?

ISIS really are a symptom of destruction of history and historical awareness in the islamic world itself, which really makes me sad. The great Sufi traditions being disdained nowadays and people being so disoriented and unrooted in the modern world that they turn to senseless destruction and mass murder under the guise of "identity" instead of asking their grandparents about their traditions, culture and faith - it's a real tragedy.

In general so much history has been lost and/or pressed into the mould of modern ideologies to the point of losing its essence or becoming unrecognizable. That's probably what angers me the most.

Don't worry the writing is on the wall and they are all going to end up being tortured to death by the Syrians Iraqis and Iranians.

Wrong. See

Oh sorry.

The Muslims were better than the Christians in the middle ages but then somehow went backwards in that regard while the Christians got better.

you're trying to make it sound stupid, that is literally what happened though. today's islamic extremism is a very recent phenomenon.

(i'm not the user you're replying to btw)

>Muslims when they conquered Anatolia brought technology
No they destroyed the civilization and killed hundreds of thousands of people(see pic related) that was already there and filled it with nomadic tribes. They preserved ancient writings in monasteries and in the eastern Roman Empire in libraries the ottomans destroyed the great library of Constantinople. However we Christians destroyed pagan temples and statues of pagan deities and replaced them top with churches.

Oh sorry.

The Christians were better than the Muslims in the middle ages but then somehow went backwards in that regard while Muslims got better.

try to keep modern identity politics out of discussions of history. it's not as simple as muslims were good/bad, christians were good/bad. when you start saying "we" about people who lived 2000 years ago, that should be a sign that you're losing your objectivity.

>replying to low quality bait
Mistakes were made, user.

>oh sorry

>shouldn't reward failure
>what is the Vietnam memorial

If you're trying to condemn pedophilia I wouldn't make Islam your rallying point, friendo.

>Selectively mention the Ottoman destruction of the library of Constantinople (if anything of it was left than) while ignoring the previous crusade where the library was burnt down and all of Constantinople was sacked by crusaders in the name of Christendom
>Implying there was any civilization left in Anatolia after the dark ages aside from a mess of proto-slavic and turkic nomads and few remaining hellennes
Go back to /pol/ and stay there, thank you.
>pillaging happens in a pre-modern war
Gee who would've thought

>it's okay when muslim did it but never forgive christnianity!

It's not, asshole. I'm just casting light at how you use selective history (or maybe you're actually historically illiterate and unaware of the 4th crusade). You're biased, an automatically disqualified from the arguing table.

There was plenty of civilization in Anatolia during the Byzantine era. Even after the Arabs depopulated cappadocia it was recovered . Pic related was a city with an estimated population of 100,000 before it was completely decimated by alp arslan.

I don't consider Armenia a part of Anatolia. Armenia and Cappadoccia remained largely integral over history, Anatolia was not. Centuries of Galatian celts and a pour of travelling nomads from the east largely depopulated it.

That was way before the romans. The galatians were assimilated into the byzantine greek population by the time of the seljuk invasion which supposedly enriched anatolia.
The cities of manzikert and ani would be considered eastern anatolia i believe.

If you're trying to condemn pedophilia I wouldn't make Christianism your ralling point, friendo.

are you fucking retarded?
thats completely wrong
first of all Cappadoccia is right in the middle of Anatolia. It is Anatolian. Anatolia was not "depopulated" to any degree that would make it less significant than Armenia. Ephesus as a center of early Christianity is a prime example of how wrong you are.

This post is so fucking retarded I'm not even going to bother because I know you're the same retard who who was talking about constantinople judging by your comment about Ephesus.
Seriously, who make being a sperglord so hard for yourself? You won't have any trouble at /pol/, you'll find a whole infestation of baboons who will jerk you off. Go there, stay there.

All things turn to dust anons. Don't cry over spilt milk.

Most confederate staues are memorials to those that died in the war.

Muslims pulled the polished casing stones off the pyramids to build mosques. They wanted to completely dismantle them, but were worse engineers than 3000bc Egyptians.

>I realize most of your states are still shitholes but hey you did that to yourselves.
AYO HOL UP SO U BE SAYIN WE WUZ SOUTHERNERZ TOO?

>pulled
Nice way to spell salvage them after earthquakes
The only time Muslims ever pulled something out of the Pyramids was in the 19th century, when a few tiles were pulled or salvaged from around the great pyramid. Otherwise anyone who tampered or damaged the important structures was tried like a criminal
>They even tried to completely dismantle them
Source amigo?

My sides
It's so funny because it's a great point. Personally I believe that all the statues should be up. It preserves history and opens discussion for newer generations when they see them.

Pyramids were complete, minus gold caps and burial treasure, during the Roman era.

Muslims in Egypt were burning mummies for camp fuel until enlightenment era EUROPEAN Christians got them to stop.

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statues should be replaced with their superior northern conquerors.

Like Farragut(for new orleans), Grant, and Sherman(for atlanta and south carolina).

not only was Temple II a neat building, but we would have been spared the development of Rabbinical Judaism

DO IT AGAIN SHERMAN

Americans bombing my city into oblivion during WWII without having a good strategic reason to do so.

Livy to be honest

Because at the time we could do it without any major reproductions, and who would turn down an opportunity like that? :^)

>destroying icons is bad
Fuck off romaboo retard. Confirmation bias is sweet, isn't it?

DELET

Don't you have some pagan monuments to blow up, abdul?

I bet you think dada is the finest expression of the human mind keke

>Some LARPing southerner shitting up the thread because a war he never participated in didn't go in his ancestor's favor making him assblasted 150 years later
It's always someone from the south who brings up that long buried war.

>enlightenment era european christians
Don't you mean the same people who were actively ripping bits out of OP's pic and selling it to rich locals
The same people that rented out most of the coliseum and circus maximus as apartments
The same people that dismantled most of remaining roman structures to build their own shit

>Christians 900 years ago are as bad as Muslims today
whoa... how can Christians ever recover

And the statues of the confederate leaders who sent those soldiers to die, in order to protect their own aristocracy?

Because those are the ones that come up in discourse and news pieces. There was a draft where you could literally pay to have somebody poorer do it for you ffs.

Northerners had to literally burn everything in their path to because the southern aristocracy was prepared to go full Nihon pride on a lost war. That's how dead the common man was to the aristocratic slave owner.

Fake. The real statues were sold.

>the north was good boys, they dindu nuffin
>it was your southern aristocracy fault that we burned down your homes and confiscated your farmland
>you arent allowed to be mad that northern officers where awarded with the lands of both southern aristocracy and sharecropers alike because you guys fired the first hot

Fucking christ, we got facefucked for attepting to gain the sovereignty to deal with issues like the ethical treatment of slaves and states rights for ourselves and 150 years later you guys are practically telling us to thank the North for the opportunity. This shit is why we still have deep and long-lasting tension between people who identify with the confederacy and asshats like you who dismiss our concerns because we lost a war fucking generations ago.

I'm not a snackbar
It's not. 'muh shitty pagan statues' isn't art. Do you even know the verse the video is referring to?

All monists have a duty to iconoclasm. As they should have.

If you're gonna rebel you better make sure that you'll be able to win, m8. Cuz if you don't you only have yourself to blame when the victors make sure that you won't be able to try that shit ever again.

>"History never existed, mono-culture now" Ultra-revisionism is a good enough excuse to erase thousands of years of humans expressioning their values/interpretation of self/beauty/spirituality/attempts to explain a mysterious and captivating existence/attempts at gleaming an explanation of consciousness and the human condition/recounting of the events that impacted their lives/every fucking thing imaginable that gives human life ANY MEANING.

Leave Veeky Forums and never come back you edgy little worthless fuck.

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>everything people do during/after a war is completely justified

Ok, now you are just being edgy

sistine chapel ceiling was cleaned with a harsh chemical 'like oven cleaner'. The restorers took for granted that all of the layers of grease and soot on the ceiling were the result of candle smoke. Michelangelo used carbon black in a wash of glue to lay on shadows and crisp dark definition, a secco. All the detail was removed

Looks better now.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_heritage_by_ISIL

WAAAAAH DONT CRITICIZE MUH ANHISTORICAN CIRCLEJERK
>MUH HUMAN CONDITION
Doesn't exist, memelord.
>MUH MEANING
Fuck off, humanist.