Were the people in the middle ages racist? Like, would england have a problem with a german king?

>They had Saxons, Normans, Scots, Welsh, Dutch and German Kings.

Did you purpotedly forget the French?

usually only to their neighbours.
The people in the county next to yours are subhumans!
But what if you meat a BLACK man!? well, is he a christian? that's all that matters.

I wrote Normans. Because yeah, it was the Duke of Normandy who conquered England, not the King of France. Now please go wewuzz somewhere else Françoise.

>The people in the county next to yours are subhumans!
not even that, stop projecting and try to actually learn something about history.

it was pretty much a wasteland
traveling was made hard by constant raids from multiple groups and there was pretty much no guarantee
everyone could be a carrier of some disease and mistrusts was extreme

>that franco-german border

>I watched game of thrones and think I can now answer questions about the medieval, the post
You dumb fuck, Europe pre plague was densely settled.

Norman Kings ruled England from 1066 to 1154
After that the Angevins (French but not from Normandy) ruled it from 1154 to 1485
So even if you don't count Normans as French, you should still add the French to the list

>Angevins
England is really a slut.

>I wrote Normans. Because yeah, it was the Duke of Normandy who conquered England, not the King of France.

And yet you wrote "Germans" while the Royal House that ended up ruling England was from the Fagdom of Hanover and not the Empire of Germany....

>German princes
>Norman dukes
deal with it Frenchy.

Racism as a concept didn't exist because the modern concept of race didn't exist. They referred to any particular group of people as a "race" which was interchangeable with "tribe". The entire idea of trying to impose modern ways of thinking onto people of the past is completely backward.

bullshit

Yes, although religion and language would have been bigger dividing factors.
as for 2 , not really unless you were a noble dealing with a foreign lord.

Why there are so many thread about racism in Veeky Forums? Aren't everyone getting tired of that bullshit?

>Why there are so many thread about racism in Veeky Forums
I saw a few screencaps of leddit leftists trying to dogpile some of the boards earlier today,
maybe that's why
> Aren't everyone getting tired of that bullshit?
yes i am, can we have autistic arguments/shitposts about something else? this is getting boring

The people of the Middle-Ages were often definitely "Racist". But you have to understand that race is not a scientifically based fact based on any kind of genetics but a cultural mode of thought. What the different "races" are and who belongs to them is different based on time and place. Our current racial categories for instance only date to about the 1600's/1700's. If you told a Roman he and a Gaul belonged to the some "White Race" he would laugh at your face because the Gauls were obviously a different race than the Romans in his eyes. Similarly whether Jewish people were counted as white has always been more of a political question than a genetic one. Or take for Instance how Native Americans have always been considered their own race when they are genetically very closely related to certain East Asian populations that are categorized as "Asian".
In short while Middle Ages people could be hella racist it would not be in a way that made sense to you and your racial views would not make sense to them.

Except the English revolted a lot when they were first conquered by the Normans. It just so happened that the Normans broke their spirits.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrying_of_the_North

nationalism, racism is a new thing

the entire ideoloy of race did not exist, it was more about religion

i hate americans so fucking much for making their shit tier ideology mainstream bullshit

>MUH SKINCOLOR

kill yourself, white brown black, idc, just stop existing you dumb fucks

Lol "race" was made up in the 19th century, so no people in the Middle Ages were not racist. And for eg: "Jew" was a theological category back then, not an ethnic one.

they'd have a problem with the next village over

>"Jew" was a theological category back then, not an ethnic one.
But thats wrong. Jews whee seen as different people.

The normans were french though, french was their spoken language, and the language of the enlish elite for centuries

Most scandinavians lived as farmers while the plat germans stod for the citylife. Almost all centers of commerce in Scandinavia had German colonies. The kings of Denmark spoke often didn't even speak danish as it was the language of the peasantry.

wrong

concepts of race came when europeans started exploring the world in the 15th century

and if by "race" you also mean ethnicity you are WRONG again

Wrong. 15th century is not the Middle Ages dude, maybe the Late Middle Ages

>Jews whee seen as different people
Different how? Can you be more specific or categorical?

>concepts of race came when europeans started exploring the world in the 15th century
Can you provide any examples of this racial awareness of the time? There would be the reports and diaries of missionaries and scholars who went out with the explorers. Primary documents with translations would be ace.

>normans were french because they spoke french
>muricans are british because they speak english
>everyone who speaks spanish in latin america is a spaniard
Ok, user.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_III_of_England
>they invited him

the spanish and portuguese caste system

>muricans are british because they speak english
well they are, USA is a bastard offshoot of britain

>3. Francia

Nice try G*rman but France include the land between the Loire and the Rhine

my point was that it wasn't invented in the 19th century

But they had many German royals?

is this guy an arab because he is speaking arabic?

arabs are racially caucasian, so obviously not

By racist you mean discrimination based on nationality or ethnicity? Absolutely

Jews were an isolated ethnic group in the middle ages. They were/are different culturally, ethnically and religiously.

>they are
Not according this map.

South sudanese speak english you fuck, its an official language.

The foundation of the American revolution were built on very english traditions of legalism, this trickled down into the culture of America, Ancestry group is irrelevant because quite a number of immigrants buy into the American indentity, one that was founded by former englishmen, with British education, and British tradition behind them.

>caring about ethnic background when literally all of American thought came from Britain before America developed its own

Explain

13 states.

it was a british colony that broke off from britain, i don't care about it's ethnic make up centuries after it broke off and became it's own thing

By then religion was more important than culture.

Do you have this map in Higher Res?

>racist
>talks about same race
And they told me this board is not dumb

And still was for a long time. The English Civil War failed to do jack shit to the British Isles long-term despite being their equivalent of the Thirty Years War, but put a Catholic on the throne and everyone immediately decides on constitutional monarchy in less than a year.

>Were the people in the middle ages racist?

Yes like all people with a sane mind

But their racism was theoricized around the bible

They divided the world into the Japhetite Kingly Race, the Hamitic(Negroid) Slave Race, and the Semitic Priestly Race

we should've listened and killed wh*Tes when they set foot here.

Didn't the Plantagenets LARP as Normans considering all the major nobles were Normans?

>self reported american censuses
This is fucking hilarious massive swings of % without significant immigration or emigration withing decades.

Flavor of the month, heritage edition.

Silly user, don't you know that ethnicities were invented in the 1700s and before that people were just all the same

>1000 AD
>vikings controlling anything other than small city states on the coast of Ireland
"No."

Source? Never heard of this actually

They were definitely really bigoted, but it wasn't modern racism, and certainly not "scientific" racism.
So on one hand they discriminated against minorities such as Cagots in France who were pretty much 100% identical ethnically, followed the same religion, spoke the same language and had largely the same customs as the rest of the populace.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cagot

On the other hand people believed that there was a black Christian king who ruled an utopian kingdom in Africa or India and would come one day to defeat Muslims. Statues of black saints or historical figures were sometimes portrayed in churches and pretty much nobody had any issue with it.
A Nestorian Christian priest came from Kublai Khan's court to Europe, visited most important monarchs and performed a mass at St Peter's at the invitation of the pope, despite not even being a Catholic.

So yeah, it varied. I suppose common people lacked an instrument to discern and discriminate against really foreign people they heard nothing about, while they had enough knowledge to have a reason to hate a people from the next village. So if a brown person came, they'd be weirded out, but might find a way to communicate. On the other hand if they saw a person from Waldenberg, they'd instantly recall how those bastards stole all their sheep 15 years ago, didn't help them during the great fire and were probably all witches who made the milk sour.