Anarchism

Is anarchism really the way to go?

Recent events have made me sick of this entire affair.

Of course anarchism is. But the real one, the one who avoids herarchies (kropotkin), not a feudal system (ancaps)

>Recent events have made me sick of this entire affair.

1. TO WHAT "AFFAIR" ARE YOU REFERRING?

2. WHICH RECENT EVENTS HAVE SOMEHOW SUGGESTED TO YOU THAT ANARCHISM IS THE SOLUTION?

Charlottesville, you annoying chump.

In an anarchist society, how would national security agencies keep us safe?

HOW IS IT THAT THAT SITUATION SUGGESTED TO YOU THAT ANARCHISM IS THE SOLUTION?

There needs to be a gov't or else every country in the world will be Somalia, especially now that nuclear weapons are a thing. The thing is we should limit the role of gov't to doing only the most necessary of functions like those laid out in the US Constitution and then some maybe environmental and social programs that are actually well-monitored and not bureaucratic nightmares. That way there will actually be a system of laws and law enforcement to protect the people and the people can do whatever they want, so long as it's legal.
They wouldn't spy on innocent people for one

>Is anarchism really the way to go?

NO

Left and right should both be burned. That's all, really. Anarchism would rid us of extremists on both sides.

How would anarchies prevent new governments from forming when citizens pool their efforts together to increase their survival/wealth? Not even memeing, I haven't read anything on anarchy theory. How do you enforce the dissolution of hierarchy without forming your own counter hierarchy?

YES, THE "RIGHT"/"LEFT" DICHOTOMY IS A SPURIOUS ONE, BUT HOW IS THE ABSENCE OF HIERARCHY THE SOLUTION TO SOCIAL DISUNITY, ACCORDING TO YOU?

TYRANTS MANIPULATE PEOPLE WITH SPURIOUS DICHOTOMIES; ANARCHISM IS THE ULTIMATE RESULT OF PROLONGED INTERNECINE STRIFE; ANARCHISM IS TOTAL DISUNITY; A DISUNITED PEOPLE WOULD MERELY MAKE THE WORK OF SOCIAL MANIPULATION EASIER FOR TYRANTS.

Typically there's some other set of structures that fulfills the need for a state. Mutualists and Syndicalists opt for workers' councils, whereas (I think) Ancaps opt for private contracts between individuals. The belief is that without the need for a state people will not create one.

>anarchism is total disunity

Actually it's a system of social and political organisation based on voluntary association. Unification comes through federation of smaller units such as municipalities or syndicates. Disunity is no more a feature of anarchism than it is of any other system.

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Whites people actually believe this

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>Actually it's a system of social and political organisation based on voluntary association.

HOW IS VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION IMPOSSIBLE WITHIN A HIERARCHICAL SYSTEM, ACCORDING TO YOU?

>Unification comes through federation of smaller units such as municipalities or syndicates.

1. UNIFICATION, AND UNITING, ARE NOT MUTUALLY EQUIVALENT; WE ARE ADDRESSING UNITY HERE, NOT UNION —UNITING IS TO UNITY, WHAT UNIFICATION IS TO UNION.

2. A FEDERATION IS NOT UNITY.

3. UNITY IS THE MUTUAL INTEGRATION OF UNITS INTO AN ORGANIC WHOLE VIA MUTUAL AFFINITY, AND THAT CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVED BY AN OVERARCHING POWER THAT COORDINATES ALL THE UNITS.

UNITY NECESSITATES HIERARCHY.

>Disunity is no more a feature of anarchism than it is of any other system.

ANARCHISM IS TOTAL DISUNITY.

Anarchism IS a fucking extremism which usually is regarded as left wing ideology. You fucking moron.

It's not.

Word games.

Federation is unity.

Unity is the state of being united or joined as a whole. Nothing more. The rest of the criteria you give are extraneous to unity.

Unity has nothing to do with hierarchy.

Anarchism is not total disunity.

"Recent event" is another clear evidence shows what will happen when government fail their duty and jobs. So yeah, destroy governments, states and orders in order to live in a fucking degraded tribal society surely can fix everything......

>an extreme left wing ideology would save us from extremism
Flawless logic

Anarchotheism is the way.
>this is what statists actually believe
Delusional.
The only good legalist is a 'martyred' legalist.

Anarchism is literally proto-Communism. Before Communists were destroying civilizations and toppling monuments, they were called Anarchists and were throwing bombs (the comical old timey round ones) at people in terror attacks.

>Unity has nothing to do with hierarchy.

Yes it does. Rei is correct in saying that tyrants make short work of disorganized people. The mongols are a concrete example of well-organized forces steamrolling less organized armies, even when they were more civilized, because the mongols had an efficient chain of command (alongside other factors).

Hierarchy puts the boot down. Deliberation is a part of all decision making, but the most important "choice" is not the considerations themselves, but the decision to stop deliberating and *act*. This is why authority figures can quickly resolve disputes and conflicts that would be drawn out and violently divide groups of equal power. If every individual has equal power, the situation is even worse, it becomes a Hobbesian "war of all against all". Nature abhors a vacuum, and tyrants are a quick plug in the sink for people who hate chaotic states of affairs and just want everything to return to the way it was.

The stability and legitimacy of a government comes only with age, and a revolution of any kind - anarchist, communist, or fascist - unravels the cautious steps towards reform taken so far. The accumulated wisdom of previous generations is disregarded, only for new evils to replace old ones.

Any anarchist that says "anarchism isn't chaos" is retarded. There's a good reason the Athenians loved Draco. He was harsh, but a system of oral law and blood feuds without codified law and court enforcement was harsher.

>the mongols steamrolled all those 13th century anarchists
>the athenians loves draco so much they forced him into exile

Everything you said has nothing to do with anarchism.

Fix your reading comprehension, idiot.

>Is anarchism really the way to go?
READ THE FUCKING REPUBLIC.

You people are literally willing to accept all the bad things that come with Anarchy, Communism, Fascism, exc, BUT A REPUBLIC? FUCK THAT!

becoming a nihilist ubermensch is good for the individual, not so much for society as a whole

>workers council
Congress?
>private contracts
Who'd enforce it? The anarchy?

Fix your not an argument

Not an argument

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Workers' councils are different from a Congress in that they built around a specific trade or industry. Also, unlike a Congress they don't have to associate with other worker's councils. The system would, in practice, be very similar to guilds.

As for private contracts, the idea is that the only way to enforce the contract is to use force, such as a private army. Some Ancaps believe that force is unnecessary, merely payment. Criticisms of Anarcho-Capitalism would say that a private army basically makes whoever owns it a feudal warlord, and this is the end result of Anarcho-Capitalism.