Obscure civilizations

Lost ones that have been found after clearing the amazon rainforest

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There were many now lost in the jungle.

...DATING???

This is probably bait, but google the archaeological definition of a civilization if you don't know it.

Why does it matter?

Probably when the spanish came. Remember that near 90 percent of natives died due to all the diseases.

>and didnt have to murder millions or steal countries
The noble savages, living in peace with mother nature, never killing or hurting each other, never fighting. Truly, they are the superior human being, we should strive to be more like them.

ARE YOU JOKING?

IT IS VERY RELEVANT

I don't get it. Why?

Why do you have to fall for his bait and ruin a good thread?

Does that mean the Amazon rainforest is only few centuries old?

Rainforest is 55 million years old, amazons learned how to cultivate the acidic soil through blending charcoal and waste into the ground.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_preta

But there were cities? They obviously didn't build cities in the jungle, right?

The diseases killed 90% of the people. We don't know if they had cities, the oral tradition remnants say that there were a kind of aristocracy of a huge population near the Amazon River.

Just stop for a second and consider this.

>Centuries, if not millenia, ago humans cleared an area of forest
>They constructed buildings there and lived there for however long they did
>For some reason, they were wiped out or chose to migrate, abandoning their cities, towns or villages
>Gradually the forest reclaims the area that was cleared
>In 2017, an user finds it difficult to understand how this could possibly happen

God damn, don't get me wrong I'm a massive byza and civil war-boo. But these ancient civilizations have always fascinated me, totally want to know what happened in the bronze age.

>Centuries, if not millenia, ago humans cleared an area of forest
So the rainforest in these "areas" is just few centuries old.
And since
>The diseases killed 90% of the people
we can assume these "areas" were pretty numerous. Right?

>the rainforest in these "areas" is just few centuries old.
Who said this? I've got no fucking clue where this archaeological site, nor the details of it. It could be a ruined military base from the Finno-Korean Hyper War for all I know.

The implication of the OP was that it was pre-Colombian, which means that, at the very least, the site is something like 500 years old. I don't even know why you're so hung up about the age of the forest.

>The diseases killed 90% of the people
The guy meant 90% of Native Americans, across both continents.

You're overcomplicating this so much.

>The guy meant 90% of Native Americans, across both continents.
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I looked it up and I couldn't find a 90% figure for North American, but the Meso/South American figure is 90% wiped out due to disease.
"La catastrophe démographique" (The Demographic Catastrophe" from the French history magazine, "L'Historie".

You ok?

stop posting like a retard

t. guy who didn't read the thread at all but saw these posts on the front page

>I don't even know why you're so hung up about the age of the forest.
Because the amazon rainforest is supposed to be a primary forest, which is apparently not the case at least in these areas. It could mean that the rainforest during precolombian era was not much extended.

>The guy meant 90% of Native Americans, across both continents.
>maths
It also implies 90% of the rainforest natives.

Abos destroyed much of the prehistoric Australian megafauna and tribes genocided each others with abandon.

There was a recent article that discussed Amazon civilisations and jungle civilisations in general, I might look it up but will not promise anything.

There's also a fuck huge zigguart in Iran as well.

Stop trying to derail

There was a Brythonic-speaking civilisation in the south of Ireland until around the 9th century. The Irish called their language "iron speech" because of how unpleasant it sounded.

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That oughta do it

18 bobs 2 jeffs

17 bobs die, 1 jeff dies.

10% of bobs and jeffs remain.

5% of bobs remain

50% of jeffs remain.

9.4%*

Anyways. Yeah. Whether or not it's right. You're wrong here.

Hottie

THEY WERE BLACK

The Tiwanako en Bolivia

She looks like the alien singer from the third element

How are the olmecs and the indus valley civilization obscure? Even calling urartu obscure is a stretch. Someone unaware of the indus valley civilization most likely doesn't know about any ancient civilization that isn't egypt, rome, etc.

It's hair dude.

you faggots are ruining this board, can't have one nice thread without you fucks coming in trying to bait

For ~2500 BC that's impressive

>muh dick

Actually kinda creepy that something like this is just buried in shit trees.

What do you mean what happened? You mean bronze age collapse? Or just what kind of porn was available?

He's just looking for an excuse to deforest the Amazon.

hurr iff tribals did it 500 years ago that means it must be okay to clearcut today rite/!?!??!

3500 years ago isn't ancient,

>tfw shitty monitor I cant read these on.

>decided to look after the environment and learn to live with it, istead of destoying it, does not make them any less a civilisatikn.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire-stick_farming

>Indigenous Australians today are often more creative with resources than any Aryan....and didnt have to murder millions or steal countries to do it. just saying.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization

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Nuragic is prolly my fav, just something you'd never learn about normally unless you were taking a high level course in college

Defined as "The Art of living in Cities".
Anything other than this is projecting.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norte_Chico_civilization

That's 4500 years ago and what do you means it's not ancient?

Romans are classified as ancient and their empire ended 1500 years ago

the thumbnail looks like a weird bathroom scale

its my dick in a basket?

what kinda stone is that? must have taken months to carve

Not him, but I'd like to know too.

i also sniffed out that same impression

More info please?

Yeah they really left behind a lot of monuments

0/10 bait

Nice

Might not be exactly what you look for but here you go:
popular-archaeology.com/issue/summer-2017/article/humans-have-been-altering-tropical-forests-for-at-least-45-000-years