Why did so many Germans decide to kill themselves in the final months of WWII? Thousands upon thousands threw away their lives while under no imminent pressure to do so, apart from intimidation induced by post-war challenges.
I cannot even begin to fathom the collective will required to end so many lives at once.
Option 1: kill yourself Option 2: get raped and murdered by Soviet soldiers
Evan Brooks
because g*rmans are obsessed with death.
Easton Carter
More proof of a massive (((conspiracy))) against the glorious German people.
Grayson Cook
How about for other wars that have passed? I have not found similar mass suicides occurring before an occupation/annexation like with the Germans in WW2, Surely there must be some greater reason?
Justin Sanders
What's really amazing is that they committed suicide in larger numbers than the Japanese.
Dylan Stewart
The Germans knew they fucked up. The Japanese to this day don't believe they fucked up. Why kill yourself with all that false pride?
Nolan Brown
Precisely because of that, they learnt their lives were molded entirely by warmongers and many were warmongers themselves, as is the typical g*rm.
Jackson Evans
Better to die than to lick the boots of the jews. All germans with any conviction died in 1945. Modern day germans are an absolute degeneration.
Thomas Kelly
Because they knew that the retribution against the actions of the German army and German civilian population for supporting Hitler would be brutal as fuck. And in many cases it was. If you were lucky you were just raped, but in many cases that wasn't the end of it.
As one of the survivors of the mass rapes in Berlin was told by a Soviet officer, the men were simply taking revenge for what the men of the German women did to Russian women and children.
Henry Wood
Either they were so patriotic that they chose suicide over humiliation or deep down they knew on how many levels they fucked up.
Declaring wars left and right with neighboring countries, rounding up groups of people and shipping them to camps, etc
110% shitty people.
Gavin Morgan
More prevalent in Japan
Lucas Phillips
It was like a giant cult on a massive scale. Many Germans and Japanese genuinely believed the Americans would slowly torture them and rape all of their women so they chose to suicide instead of living. It was like North Korea tier devotion to the Fuhrer that led many to kill themselves.
Mason Miller
Because, just like their Fuhrer, they were pooping in their pants from disease and could not bear the shame anymore.
Xavier Sullivan
They knew that they were going to get cucked by the allies and the kikemunists so they did the sensible thing and that is to take their life so they wouldn't see what Germany would become. And in hindsight those thousands of Germans that killed themselves, are better off today because Germany is run by Islam and Islam is cucking Germany.
Henry Walker
>get raped and murdered by Soviet soldiers >mfw meme went to far
Caleb Harris
Maybe you should join them?
Carter Bennett
You'd think the mods would police the board better now that Stormfront is taken down, is the only mod awake right now the /pol/fag or do the mods just not give a shit?
Michael Brooks
Indian women immolated themselves to not be raped by Islamoc-Turkic invaders
Angel Young
Wait, stomrfront got taken down? When?
Logan Collins
Indian women burn themselves all the time, any excuse will do, it's a serious problem
Ian Gonzalez
Thats pretty much what Americans did in okinawa tho
Daniel Hughes
it didnt
Ian Nelson
german here;
you have to put yourself in the mind of the people back then. After losing WW1 and failing to 'break through' as a major world power many saw germany in decline during the interbellum (economy crisis, versaille treaty etc.), hence the general euphoria when Hitler came along. When WW2 broke out many thought of it as an all or nothing affair. Either germany wins and dominates europe, or it will simply cease to be. So you have to imagine the mindset when it became clear that the war was lost. Many had the idea that after the defeat the winning powers would dissolve germany as a country and even evict its people. Patriotism was ofc. way higher than it is today, so the defeat for many came close to the literal end of the world. So many chose suicide because all their dreams were crushed and the thing they valued the most would be completely earased and they didnt want to live through that
Ian Hall
What you people forget is to consider the role of Adolf Hitler in this. His suicide probably made thousands kill themselven. After Stalins dead there were also mass suicides.
Tyler Nelson
The Germans committed war crimes, and were universally hated by every country.
Other wars are the result of political disputes, perhaps one country wishes to invade the other, or two parties disagree. It's strictly 'business.'
But in that era, there was not only hatred for the political ideology, but a personal hatred for the soldiers who acted on it.
Isaac Harris
Weren't the "suicides" after Stalin died because they were cleaning house and some people needed to go?
Ian Sanders
Too bad so many of the soviet rapebabies were aborted. We had real good chance to dilute German racial autism. Alas, the seed is very strong.
Oliver Myers
Because they did not want to live in a world without nationalsocialism
Ryder Mitchell
German "people" love a mass killing and recognized this was there last chance to do it.
Lincoln Martinez
They weren't exactly wrong, given the demographic trajectory of Germany right now.
Ryder Murphy
>oh no a history thread about a particular bit of history I don't like >I'm going to post in it and tell everyone how distasteful I find it faggot go to one of your humanities containment threads
Owen Perez
The Allies murdered 3 million Germans between 1945 and 1951 and ethnically cleansed tens of millions of ethnic Germans from dozens of countries, stealing all their possessions and mass murdering them in the process. There was widespread rape, torture, and looting, and deliberate mass starvation of both POWs and civilians. An entire generation of German girls was raped. In fact pedophilia became official state policy. The country was split in two with half given to the Soviets who carried out totalitarian terror. Many Germans were handed over by the Western Allies to the Soviets and shipped off in cattle cars to freeze to death in Siberian death camps. The Allies implemented a false ideology, using the education system to brainwash children and turn them against their own parents, and punish anyone who disagreed harshly, even to the point of murdering dissidents. The German taxpayer was forced to pay trillions of dollars of blood money, financing lavish lifestyles for every Jew in the world, and bankroll in the colonization of Israel. Germany today is a totalitarian dystopia that is being systematically destroyed through deliberate demographic replacement, where public stabbings and rapes against Germans are a daily occurrence, where roving rape gangs commonly rape German girls to death in the middle of the street while everyone just walks by with their heads turned away out of fear of being called a Nazi. The German nation had been utterly destroyed. If you can't understand why so many Germans in 1945 who knew all this was coming decided to rather than see it for themselves take their own lives then you are not human.
Isaac Roberts
I understand why people hate nazism but I don't understand why Veeky Forums have to much hate and disregard for germany in general. is just a meme to trigger poltards or they actually believe germans are evil.
Easton Allen
Because this place is as much a colony of /int/ as it is of /pol/, and country dickwaving is the norm. It's not just Germans that get this treatment.
Joseph Fisher
Nice sources there blatant stormfronter, aka 'Rabbi'
Joshua Young
I know this but not makes this shit less annoying.
Lucas Perry
They are just an inch behind the eternal anglo in the most dangerous races known to man. They are just more recent due to the world wars, the economic control of the EU and the open borders policy.
Ryder Young
It's contrarianism to germanophile circlejerk of other, more "mainstream" american websites dedicated, vaguely or not, to history. Just check out Paradox fanbase.
James Richardson
I'm just speaking for myself, but if you use the term "cuck" in your post I'm going to shitpost
Henry Adams
It's not just that. In fact, the US has a load of the blame for Japan's weird amnesia. Not that the Japanese were without agency, but after the first year, SCAP spent a lot more time censoring people accusing people of war crimes then actually prosecuting them. Unlike nuremburg, the Tokyo trials were a clusterfuck, because they were so invested in making sure certain people weren't implicated.
There were a lot more Germans who killed themselves because they really didn't want to live in a world without Hitler.
Evan Allen
I actually have a bad opinion of Germans in real life not just on here
>mods please protect me fromt the mean /pol/ ppl they are very scary :'(
Josiah Thomas
Why even bother being a stormfag when you're getting BTFO all the time?
Adrian Allen
That's probably because the invasion of Japan never happened. The japanese were not killing themselves in the mainland, they were preppin' to fight. It's so fucking insane the bullshit ways Japan engineered to make suicide soldiers a thing by the way. Read up on suicide divers and crewed torpedoes.
Kevin Clark
After the first war the Germans had it bad, like REALLY BAD. I wouldn't blame them for assuming the worst after they did it for the SECOND time. Also propaganda fueled fanatiscism I guess.
Michael Smith
>allies >post-war eastern bloc dominated by USSR """allies"""
Kayden White
>The German taxpayer was forced to pay trillions of dollars of blood money, financing lavish lifestyles for every Jew in the world, where's my bloodmoney? wtf?
Juan Davis
Hi, Goebbels, how's weather in hell today?
Hudson Williams
Seeing all these wikipedia links I'd assume you didn't even look into the sources of each article, since you consider wikipedia a source by itself. Am I right?
Christian Roberts
In both instances the Germans got off easy compared to how much shit they stirred. After second try they should've been wiped out of face of the Earth
Chase Wood
Okinawa? Whole villages threw themselves off cliffs rather than accept American rule.
Matthew Reed
Germans and Japs both were right.
Ian Miller
They had the right Idea, just the wrong methods.
Parker Anderson
it's just a meme, kraut-kun
Isaac Barnes
I'm talking post-surrender. No more fighting to be done. If you want to talk while the fighting was going on, you've got pretty much the whole volksturm thing, that ramming quote /pol/ loves, and anyone who thought the Me-163 was a good idea.
But no, after fighting was done and over, a lot more Germans committed suicide then the Japanese.
Brayden Wood
I'm not saying war crimes didn't happen but the Japanese and Germans believed in extremely strange stuff that Americans would do to them.
>blt.z.S. Schäffer decided to sail to Argentina rather than surrender. During later interrogation, Schäffer said his main reason was a German propaganda broadcast by Goebbels, which claimed that the Allies' Morgenthau Plan would turn Germany into a "goat pasture” and that all German men would be "enslaved and sterilized". Other factors were the poor conditions and long delay in being repatriated suffered by German POWs at the end of World War I (see Forced labor of Germans after World War II), and the hope of better living conditions in Argentina, which had a large German community.
America never did anything as laughably evil as the stuff they believed would happen to them. Goebbels fer mongered alot of his nation into suiciding.
Ryan Wood
To be fair, German women weren't as much worried about the Americans as they were the Russians. In that "Woman in Berlin" memoir, she notes that everyone was practically praying for the Americans to arrive before the Russians and were in despair when they realized there was no way they would. Americans did rape women (and not just women in Axis countries) but Soviets tended to be more violent due to German actions against civilians in Russia.
Cameron Taylor
well cult of death in nazi higher rank would explain it but the rest i'm not sure.
Levi Brooks
to avoid living in a world rules by jews
Isaac Adams
>Germany is run by Islam and Islam is cucking Germany Yeah those refugees with unclear permition to reside are running the country
Landon Stewart
They are just horrendously overrated people and it is true that ever since the unified they destroyed europe. They merely held back awhile after WW2.