ITT we discuss confederate statutes

should they be torn down Y/N and why?

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No statues should be torn down. Put them in museums sure, but having mobs of what are essentially thugs tearing them down is awful.

I'm no sympathizer to the traitorous confederate cause, and I think the muh southern pride are a bunch of faggots.

However, enacting a Damnatio Memoriae is just stupid. We have statues of Lenin in Seattle and donations of Romulus and Remus from Mussolini. It's not a far extrapolation to carry it to the founding fathers, except for Hamilton because he was once played by a black guy in a somewhat decent musical.

Stick them in museums and replace them with memorials for confederate soldiers (in general, rather than specific individuals) and civil rights related figures. I think that's a fair compromise.

Yeah remove them, put them in a museum or something.

Removed but not fucking destroyed like all those idiots are doing. Put them in a museum

They should be put into a museum if you don't want to see them in public. History is something you shouldn't destroy at all costs


>Hamilton:The Musical
>Makes Hamilton into a nice guy, not the cool asshole he actually was
>decent

Keep going down this route murrifats, at one point the american flag will be deemed a racist symbol.

No. You shouldn't just attempt to erase or sanitise your past like some kind of Stalinist drone. Put up informative signs explaining the context of the American Civil War and the historical personage being depicted; put up civil rights/abolitionist monuments adjacent to the statues so people have a more rounded view of their local history. If people feel like you're trying to repress their history or identity they'll react negatively and your efforts will backfire.

bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-20/what-confederate-monument-builders-were-thinking
Let's be real here, there are many statues dedicated to those who lost their lives fighting for both sides of the Civil War and no one is complaining about those. These statues put up in the 1890s/1900s are a different story.