352th byzantium thread

What was the point of no return Veeky Forums? how could they prevent it?

>what was the point of no return Veeky Forums? how could they prevent it?

1204. They had managed to regain a shit load of lost land. 1204 fucked them permanently.

Greeks and Albanians need to reunite and form Byzantinum

Albanians? why albanians of all things?

This

Because they're trustworthy and reliable allies, and because all the Armenians have been genocided so can't use them.

The empire was literally bankrupt in the 1180s. The only reason the fourth crusade even succeeded was due to how bad was the imperial economy at the time, which literally made it impossible for a decent army to be raised. The latin empire itself, while shit, was loads better than the late 12th century ERE by sheer virtue of having the money required to raise enough troops to fight the bulgars.
The idea that the latins somehow sabotaged a fledgling phoenix is downright hilarious.

If the Byzantines didn't act like shitheads the crusaders wouldn't have been there

Can someone explain how the Turks managed to get to Greece before Byzantium/Constantinople itself?

>They had managed to regain a shit load of lost land.
Oh aren't you a disingenuous little shit. You post a map from decades before the crusade, ignoring that in 1200 the empire looked like pic related, half its territory lost.
Let's not even talk of how the empire barely managed to raise 15k men to defend itself against the latins. For comparison's sake, let's just say that is was an amount so piddly that Venice (for all intents and purposes a city state at the time) could afford to loan out 18k men out to Byzantium in the 1180s to act as the byzantine navy.
Some fucking empire indeed.