When humans leave Earth far behind and settle in other solar systems, will the history of Earth cease to matter?
When humans leave Earth far behind and settle in other solar systems, will the history of Earth cease to matter?
In my absurd fantasy future, humanity totally leaves earth for off-world colonies and earth is left mostly uninhabited as a massive wildlife preserve. It won't happen though. The truth is that we're stuck on this planet and we're slowly poisoning everything on it to death, including ourselves, and there is no escape.
imo, depends on how exactly we end up settling in other solar systems. Does one civilization finally end up conquering everything else, unifying the Earth as a planet and only then journey into the stars? Does it become a free for all as countries scramble to fund their own solar system colonialism efforts? I think if its the latter, history will definitely come into play as countries use colonizing the stars to promote their nationalism through the roof as they become debatably the most important nation in history.
Does the history of England matter to Americans? What about England's history to Canada or Australia whom have much stronger ties.
You should read Asimov's empire novels and the foundation series.
>When humans leave Earth far behind and settle in other solar systems, will the history of Earth cease to matter?
Humans won't "leave" Earth behind. It'll be far more cost effective to send seeder ships with artificial facilities that will grow the humans once it has arrived at its target planet, probably after a lot of study and gene therapy to adapt them to their new homes.
Earth is where we make our stand. Other planets will be simply too far away for us to have meaningful interaction with them
I bet retards like this existed when Grunk said he was going to cross the Red sea
About as much as the history of the ancient greeks, sumerians, etc. matters to us.
We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine and the machine is bleeding to death
>not comprehending the fundamental difference
I think in the far future, when humanity makes 99% of sci-fi reality - immortality, transhumanism, galactic civilizations, etc - they will look back and divide History in some 3 or 4 parts.
>1: Pre-History: until before 10k years ago
We were basically apes. Not much else to say about it.
>2: Ancient History: from 10k years ago to.... Idk. Until very recently. At the very least, until 1945. Probably decades, if not centuries, later.
Humans were a species of savage nature. Mostly marked by huge wars, famine, several problems, being forced to work to survive (capitalism as a slightly improved form of feudalism which by itself is a slightly improved form of slavery). Autocracies govern the world with the iron fist. No freedom of speech at all. Religion as the predominant view of the world. No individual freedoms. More than two children per couple (population growth). Nations are small (cities, sometimes small regions). Not much domain of the Earth, many regions sparsely populated, others completely unheard of. No space travel. Life is suffering.
(will continue)
>3: "Transition" period: at least from 1945 until who knows when
Automation slowly taking over jobs and replacing them with universal basic income. No wars between superpowers, only limited proxy wars. Freedom of speech. Nihilism, atheism and non-religious world views taking over. More personal freedoms, it's ok now to burn a plant and have sex with who you love. Autocracies are replaced by pseudo-democratic oligarchies. Some attempts at socialism and communism, but they fail because they were tried too early. Some idolization of technology. Discoveries that take us closer to understanding reality and interference of technology with human nature (robotic prosthetics, artificial organs etc). Less than 2 children per couple (replacement), but still more than 1. Some simulations (videogames, VR, etc, but in low quality). Nations are medium, ~200 or so in total in the globe. All of the planets regions are known and populated at least to some extent. Developments of space travel. Life is still shit but it's not so bad anymore.
>4: Long awaited endgoal/utopia period: starting from who knows when
Immortality. Zero children per couple, why breed at all if we're immortal? Complete automation, robots do all our work for us. Complete trans-humanism, people's consciousness are uploaded into whatever they like, whether its a perfect super model or some giant mecha straight out of an anime. Simulated reality at large, you can live whatever life you want just ask. No wars. Only one nation. Not just this planet is populated, but others too. Full mastery of space travel. It's good to be alive.
There are probably some other things I'm forgetting but that's how I imagine it.
Hope that answers your question.
: "Transition" period: at least from 1945 until who knows when
All periods are transition periods, every new society believes itself to be the latest and greatest that history will ever produce
: Long awaited endgoal/utopia period: starting from who knows when
By the standards of ancient people, our society would be an unimaginable utopia. Such things are wholly subjective, people in future societies will probably still find reasons to be stressed out.
>history will ever produce
At one point the true final society will come though, sooner or later, simply because technological advancements are limited by the Laws of Physics. And considering how many quintillions to the power of quintillions of years the Universe's lifespan still has until its (probably) inevitable Heath Death, for most of the time, humankind will be this society that has reached the limits of technology and everything preceding it will look like a chronologically insignificant point. I mean, let me try to give you some numbers just so you have an idea. Let's say it takes us one million years to reach the absolute limits of technology, a point in which there can be no longer any improvements to our civilization simply because tech doesn't allow it (we can't surpass light speed so internet and transportation has a speed limit, we can't make computers run better games, etc). So all of human history would be 1 012 000 years. It will take some 4 billion years until the sun kills all life on Earth, so just put side by side, 4 000 000 000 and 1 000 000. Or, in other words, something that takes 4000 times longer than something else. If we reach an utopia in one million years, which is a very unfair estimate considering how fast things have been progressing, that would be like one second until we have to leave Earth for somewhere else it, which would be the equivalent of an hour. And after we leave Earth we won't have just a few billion years more, we'll have quintillions to the power of quintillions of years. If we can set up bases near the event horizon of black holes, which is completely possible, we can, thanks to the relative nature of time, extend that already massive number by raising it to the power of another few billions. A lot of people say we're lucky to be born in this day and age. I think it's quite the opposite. We're extremely, extremely, primitive, worthless etc. The simple facts that we still die is miserable.
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What, did I say something wrong?
No just it's a pretty depressing post, realising that utopia is essentially inevitable and we are less than 1% into human history.
I open my wallet, and it's full of blood
>localized things don't matter when I imagine in mind things from WAY far away
lol this is the logic of the 'it's all meaingless' faggots
in the future there will be only synthetic humans
screencap this
>Pre-history
>Basically apes
wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_modernity
Don't mind me, just obliterating every foe in galaxy thanks to my extensive history knowledge.
>we can't surpass light speed
Light speed is a misnomer, what you mean is the speed of information, or of causality. Light just happens to travel at that speed, but it's not what that speed limit is about.
Also, there is a "communication" of some sorts between entangled particles. These particles can't be used to transmit information, but perhaps the principle that allows for the particles to "communicate" can be exploited in some other way? Nobody knows how it works, might be possible. It might also be feasible to make worm holes. It's not reasonable to say this and that will forever stay impossible, when real research into how the universe works has only been taking place for 150 years and scientists still can't account for most of the matter/energy in the universe with the current theories.
..there's blood.. there's blood everywhere..
BUT I JUST SAW HER!
I gave you blood, blood, gallons of the stuff, I gave you all that you can drink and it has never been enough...
What is even the purpose of space colonization? Just go and spread ourselves everywhere like some kind of virus?
To preserve the human race, to reach the star is our destiny blah blah blah, people just automatically assume that it's going to be like in the latest scifi movie when in reality we'll most likely never leave our system
How can the universe be 93 billion light years in diameter when it's only 14 billion years old making it only possible to be 28 billion light years in diameter?
the universe is expanding faster than light