Dont know how to ask but will try. But did protestantism exist before reformation? Did people believe in sola scriptura and that RCC wasnt the true church(i dont this so no accusation that im catholic)?
Protestantism before Reformation
Lucas Ramirez
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Michael Gomez
I think there were always outliers to the RCC, and you can see that in the east through the Byzantine empire and Greece.
I'm sure there were plenty of people who believed and practiced along the lines of protestantism but just didn't broadcast it.
Leo Roberts
>did protestantism exist before reformation
No. Protestantism is new to the fact no other heresy has ever promoted things like Sola Scriptura and salvation by faith alone.
Sola Scriptura and salvation by faith alone idea is very strange even to early gnosticism, even though Luther and Calvin were influenced by it
Keep in mind that the major protestant organizations don't agree with each other but they all profess sola scriptura.
It's interesting Protestants quote Church Fathers and those Church Fathers believed in the Pope, in confession and the Bishops.
Kevin Gutierrez
Sorry for bumping
Xavier Perry
There were a few theologians like John Wycliffe who expressed Ideas similar to Luther, but I dont know of anyone with those views before 1200AD.
Ive never seen any writing by Roman or Greek Christians, including those considered "heretical" advocating such view, at least in regards to the bible. Its pretty clear most of them did not consider the Roman church Supreme in the sense medieval Catholics did
Ryder Butler
Similar ideas probably existed, but we don't know about them due to catholic censorship
Joseph Bailey
The Orthodox obviously didn't regard Rome. But as for sola scriptura, that was a pretty new development that sprang out of Rome being retarded and saying laity were forbidden from translating or reading the Bible (forgetting perhaps that the Bible was translated into Latin for the sake of the laity). This couldn't help but give the impression that Rome was betraying the Bible and wanted to hide that. As a consequence the Bible was seen as the real deal, the redpill, whereas the stuff Rome gave the laity (tradition) was seen as the blue pill given to the cattle. Rome caused the Reformation by her arrogance and flagrant perversion of doctrine (selling the good works of saints, for example)
Nathan Fisher
>Did people believe in sola scriptura
no, the very earliest history of the Church (not even RC) was arguments over tradition and interpretations on theology.
>and that RCC wasnt the true church
anglicanism, episcopalianism, and Orthodoxy
>salvation by faith alone idea is very strange even to early gnosticism
gnostics are heretics and always have been. Christians didn't grow out of gnosticism
salvation by faith and the word of God being the sole authority for followers of Christ is the way that the Church began and grew until the time of the Ecumenical councils
Tyler Campbell
Before Peter?
Asher Jackson
Yeah, they were called heretics, not everyone agreed with the whole Nicean thing