Let's discuss Bin Laden. The more I read about him...

Let's discuss Bin Laden. The more I read about him, the more his views on the "current" (90's and early 2000's) state of Islam start to be understandable.
Look at Mecca for example. Where what should be the most holy place in Islam is a huge Western hotel for people to stay at, instead of going through Muhammad's journey and experiencing it as he did. Not to mention that the actual Mecca may not even be where they say it is. Saudi Arabia has an incredible influence over Islam while being tied closely to the West.
Was Bin Laden right to despise the West for corrupting what he believed to be Islam and the Islamic world?

That seems more like a problem with policies with the Saudi family.

I mean, just look at that.

His main beef was that Americans were bombing innocent Iraqis and starving them through sanctions whilst helping pissrael carry out its occupation of Palestinians.

All the crap about religious purity and "they hate us for our freedom" was stuff the west added to make him seem evil and unrelateable. It's true he had some beef with the Saudis for housing American soldiers in the gulf war, but that just laid the foundations for his resentment of America-Saudi partnership.

The bottom line was America was killing Arabs, so he killed Americans. Simple as that really.

Weren't many of the 9/11 attackers Saudis, though?

He was an american hero

Fun fact: almost all of the hotels close to the Kabaa are owned by Al-Sauds

so what? Bin laden too was a Saudi who hated Saudi Arabia

Non-Muslims are literally forbidden from entering the city.

Actually if you read Bin Laden's justification for 9/11, he outlines both political and religious reasons for the attacks.

The Independent is a Left-wing British media outlet owned by a Russian.

A Russian formerly in the KGB I might add.

Is he based?

He had the vaguely right idea that US leadership was a problem, but should have targetted the house of Congress in the middle of a session instead of the Twin Towers. I guarentee you the US wouldn't even hate him as much if he had just fought politicians. And ultimately, it's not a US-specific problem, it's a problem of globalization that every country exposed to it has its culture erroded away. His views of the problem were a simplified version of something that itself is a simplification.

Ultimately, he would have been better served using his political power as one of the Bin-Ladens to try and steer Saudi Arabia away from the west as opposed to making it more hostile and authoritarian while still connected to the ME.

He hated the united States because KSA didn't allow him to fight Iraq for them and instead allowed the us to station their troops in ksa. He also hated usa and ksa for being toadies for Israel. In his own words.

>british leftist newspaper

>"hurr america loved him!"

this image is like the "you only use 10% of your brain dude!" of images. I fucking hate every retarded faggot who post it in between bong rips as if they have uncovered some amazing secret, when its really some assholes whos too lazy to fucking look up what The Independent is in google.

According to one of his sons he was almost surprised by how big of a reaction 9/11 was, because to him it was equal to the US intervention in Lebanon and the destruction of buildings there.

>Osama bin Laden said one of the main reasons he hated America was because of their arms dealings with Indonesia

>NOT because of the borderline genocide the indonesians were committing under the eye of the US, but because the US finally ended their support of them and stopped them

>bin Laden was mad at america for stopping the muslims in indonesia from massacring and conquering the mostly catholic east timor

People who praise Osama bin Laden as some anti-hero, or think he was "fighting back!" against america or any of that shit are the most cucked europoors imaginable. Youre little bird brains are in this socialist matrix of intersectionality bullshit that you dont even realize it. Sort yourselves out.

Yeah no, he's a Saudi Arabian fucking shit. Wahhabism is part of the problem, not the solution.

On the other hand the Iranian Revolution was understandable and in many ways justified once you learn the West treated Iran until that point. It also has the advantage of people in charge not being religious fundamentalists and being able to cooperate with other third world anti-imperialist forces, Christian (liberation theology was a big influence on Ali Shari'ati's idea of "red shi'ism") or even communist.

Definitely. He opposed degeneracy and Muslim immigration to the West, and he was also redbulled on the influence of the Zionist lobby on the US foreign policy.

This was his only illegitimate reason for carrying out attacks on the US. All of the rest of his reasons for hating the US were perfectly legitimate.

hey dumbdick, if one of his problems is that America ended their support of a genocidal government, then that pretty much nullifies any complaints he has about perceived war crimes. Especially when most of his complaints are because of his stupid religion.

Islamic Gotham.

So his hatred of India and his support of a hindu genocide by pakistani muslims was a legitimate complaint?

Or his view of killing every fucking one, and then just letting god sort them out? Again, europoors who view Osama as some anti hero striking back at big bad america are on another plane of cucked. Intersectionality is cancer of the brain.

He's basically 20th-21st century Mahdi. Both challenged the greatest empire on Earth.

>London circa 2025

>All the crap about religious purity and "they hate us for our freedom" was stuff the west added to make him seem evil and unrelateable.


>he called for Americans to "reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling, and usury," in an October 2002 letter.

Osama defenders are the dumbest and most disgusting retards on the internet. just another flavor of stormfags.

>All of the rest of his reasons for hating the US were perfectly legitimate.

this, especially since he called (((them))) out all the time for their scheming and murderous ways

wikipedia says they're liberal, which in bongspeak means right wing

This tbqh

But user, it's only terrorism when Muslims do it :^)

Osama Bin Laden is just one piece of this great master plan ((((they)))) are building up since decades. The whole radicalisation of the islamic world is part one: supporting Al-Qaeda and other groups, getting rid of Saddam because he was keeping islamic terrorists in check, bombing Iraq so the Terrorists get recruits, etc. pp.
Part two is now radicalising the christian world against Islam: 9/11 and other terrorist attacks, let millions of Muslims immigrate to Europe to further raise ethnic tensions, support right-wing governments in Europe, etc. pp.
Part three is causing a war between christian nations and muslims, let the christians and muslims destroy each other and build a jewish nation state on the ruins of the battlefield.

>1 year ago
>fucking mudslims race war NOW crusades babe

>now
>we must support our muslims brothers in their fight against jewish imperialism

has pol finally taken the real redpill

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, Man