in this book - Homo Agressivus, Dorian speaks a lot about women's sexual selection and shows how throughout the history of mankind women have been attracted to hard, dominant, unscrupulous men - because they have easier access to resources and they could offer protection to women and children. The author gives the example of teenage gangs, where the bad boy joins who he wants.And the utopian solution would be for women to be attracted to peaceful and intelligent men, and those mitocans to exclude them so they will not perpetuate their genes.
Well this is still mostly true, it's just that what constitutes a hard, dominant and unscrupulous man changes a lot culturally.
Mason Wood
it's an /r9k/ meme, human infants and pregnant women are very physically vulnerable compared to mammals with similar birth rates, being pumped and dumped wouldn't be to a woman's evolutionary advantage
women want a strong man not a bad man
Justin Phillips
Shh. You'll trigger the edgelords.
Noah White
Uh, the argument is that they're hot wired to think like this, whether they're a Muslim in 1000AD or a Hippie in the 1960s.
Josiah Jones
>perpetuate genes
the state of beta rationalists
Ian Thompson
that's not true because women don't need to be looked after by their husbands, they can be looked after by their parents or clan.
the situation is not "x is more advantageous than y". the situation is actually a trade-off. Are your genes going to proliferate more if you let an aggressive alpha male who clearly isn't going to stick around to help raise your kids knock you up such that you have no help raising your kids but your kids probably carry some of his handsome, healthy , aggressive genes , or are your genes going to proliferate more if you let a nice guy impregnate you who will be a good father and make sure your kids are raised in comfort and safety but your kids probably won't be as handsome or confident?
that's the tradeoff that women consciously or subconsciously consider.
in an environment where women are actually pretty well off and can get along by herself quite easily either through her own career or welfare, it makes sense that she'll tend to choose to get knocked up by the alpha who is going to leaver her than if she were a woman living in a harsh , poor society where there is no welfare and no one will want to look after a single mother except her parents and she wouldn't be able to get a good career as a woman at all.
This is in poor and more backward, patriarchal countries like india or pakistan or arab countries, beautiful women usually won't consider a man unless he is a doctor or investment banker or owns/is heir to a successful business. Among men who are those things they'll obviously want the most handsome and confident , but in those countries there are basically no stories of a handsome struggling musician getting a girl pregnant, or rich , successful , nerdy men having trouble getting a wife.
even if they're from a more metropolitan, liberal family and want to 'date' (means differnet things to different people) they still won't consider you seriously if you aren't a doctor or similar.
Jonathan Flores
Clearly the optimal strategy is to get knocked up by an aggressive alpha male and then trick the nice guy into raising your kids. Not even memeing, the only downside is that you increase the ratio of assholes to nice guys down the line.
Charles Brown
That barely even happens, stop spreading This meme
Jaxon Garcia
Oh boy. It seems like any topic involving women invariably brings out the bitching permavirgins, right-wing SJWs, and cuck fetishist trolls.
The plain truth is that like attracts like: shallow tarts who only care about superficial features are attracted to shallow jerk offs who have the superficial features they think they want. Of course women who spend an inordinate amount of time obsessing over their physical appearance and devote a huge portion of her time to fine tuning it are going to be attracted to men who do the same. This is the "high school hero/life zero" crowd.
And yes, most of these permavirgins probably have a girl within a few miles of them who likes all the same things they do, watch all the same shows, laugh at all the same jokes, and share similar beliefs about society, but they'd never give her her the time of day because she is also their equal in terms of commitment to physical fitness (or lack thereof), and their expectations are way too unrealistic from a life time of obsessively spanking their monkeys to hot Asian porn.
Normal women go through a learning process of figuring out what separates a "bad boy" from a man who shows true assertiveness and leadership. Yes, it is a learning curve and yes, it's a net loss of happiness for the women because there's more uncertainty involved, but sober liberty is preferable to a gilded cage.
You can be an unscrupulous chad and still somewhat care about your offspring. See Genghis Khan. Or you just cuck your provider and let him raise chad kids.
Nobody claims women are attractive to psychopaths who cut people open on a mere whim all the time.
So well...carrying Owls to Athen. Everybody knows women like dominant, somewhat violent men and leaders and that it makes absolutely sense from a evolutionary point of view.
Christian Gutierrez
carmela sleeps with two men, one is a sociopath
artie is a weakling and his wife slept with tony
the jew is the one with the hot wife
makes me think
Ian Ramirez
The reason why people don't have girls it's not because they're ugly but because they have no social life and are outcasts.
Hudson Harris
>makes me think that your race is made of losers when it comes to women?
Sebastian Garcia
Oh yes, everyone is like people from a tv show about gangsters
Yeah, bad people exist, great news.
Mason Sanchez
why do young women do not like this show?
why do old women love this show?
Grayson Anderson
>That barely even happens Right, which basically proves the entire premise is nonsense.
Daniel Jackson
makes sense and is not a bad thing and not an iron rule of life just survival
Jose Young
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Austin Perez
nice syntax asshole
Brody Smith
Do you hate her?
Isaiah Robinson
dude weed lmo
Jose Moore
Does he present this as a theory or a hypothesis?
Ian Lopez
People are social animals. Few chimps go it alone, let alone humans females. "It takes a village" is more than just a proverb, it's human history.
Aaron Clark
>but they'd never give her her the time of day because she is also their equal in terms of commitment to physical fitness (or lack thereof)
Do you even Veeky Forums?
your philosophing is literal baby tier, lurk more
James Johnson
I hope your image is satire
Adam Davis
You're partly correct. They will be pumped and dumped by these men.
But the violent men aren't meant to raise theoffspring...that's the job of the beta male.
This has been proven by many studies btw.
Joseph Brooks
There is also men who love crazy bitches because the sex is good, would you say that this will cause that more girls get crazy with time?
Jeremiah Hughes
That's a very poor analogy to use. Women and men have different mating strategies because they have differing investments in any future offspring.
It's been conclusively shown that women prefer more "masculine" face at the most fertile point of their ovulation cycle and "feminine" male faces at a low fertility point. No such cycle exists in men.
Are men willing to ignore negative personality traits in women in favor of sex? Yes, but men don't single out violent, asocial women as prime breeding material.
Blake Wilson
Stupidii homini, homo aggressivus est fals, aggressivii homin est virtuii. Fugit ad finalis.
Sebastian Foster
>throughout the history of mankind
THis seems like a theory that parallels racial science only instead of a superior race its based on superior traits within a sex.
I always take theories that extrapolate that far back with a grain of salt. Maybe if he chose a reasonable time period in a relatively specific part of the world (i.e. 1960's North America) and drew his conclusions from there it would be more believable.
Just my opinion.
Alexander Taylor
>Do you even Veeky Forums? I'm average and my gf is average. We're both okay with that, but we do try to make better health decisions.
>your philosophing Philosophy is for people who can't back up their arguments with sources
This Also doesn't this kind of create a problematic observation? That men are the breadwinners and women react to that? I realize its the evolutionary and biological truth but using as a basis for a Utopian society is kind of against the egalitarian aspect that most people associate with modern Utopianism.
