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Baathism isn't socialism.
It's Arab National Socialism. Saddam was just implementing the successful policies of Adolf Hitler, without all the genocide.
Massively increasing aggregate demand via state subsidies increases GDP?????
who could've guessed?
So was Saddam /ourguy/?
Wow, really? Why don't we do that in developed countries then?
More like arab fascism, (I don't implying this a bad thing)
Yes the reality is that the kurds deserved it
Makes people mad because it requires high taxes and it's generally used for infrastructure projects, not actual industry
In the same timespan that Saddam ruled, Singapore went from being a third world shithole to a developed, modern, First World state with a lower infant mortality rate than the USA
Where was Iraq? Still a shithole.
Fuck your socialism.
Singapore didn't go through continuous major wars and get repeatedly bombed and invaded by shitmerica, la
Also Singaporean women are whores and slutty to an extreme that would make Thai girls blush
>rebel against dictatorial state in times of war
>get killed
It's funny how people act surprised every time this happens
Well fossil fuel countries like Iraq, Dubai, Russia, etc. don't need taxes because the gov gets its money from state owned mineral wealth
Taxing shitpoor peasants is peanuts compared to selling oil on the global market. It's not easy though, you still need good governance otherwise you end up like Venezuela. Having oil is not some magical cheat card.
Thank you based old Malay man for being a poster boy of superiority of capitalisn.
Also thank you Botswana.
>without all the genocide
Botswana has a tiny, homogenous population and a super abundance of diamonds, it's doing well because you can literally dig money out the ground there, not because of its progressive economic model.
Tame for your typical "not real" socialism. Or for Arabs.
Dumbass Africa is rich with minerals it's absolutely ridiculous. And they're all shitholes. It takes more than that.
Non-African example: Venezuela aka the one Sean Pean forgot ever existed.
they deserved it. You should have seen what the kurds did when they captured a village, they basically butchered the baathists and the turkmen.
in 1958, the communist party took over kirkuk and they publically slaughtered a bunch of turkmen males in the streets by dragging them with ropes attached to their necks. The communist party was mostly kurds.
>The communist party was mostly kurds.
Damn Kurds really are the Jews of that area
>whithout the genocide
he literally gassed kurds
>baathists
>don't deserve to be butchered
Pick one, Abdul. Just because the Kurdish people oppose Arab supremacy (Baathism) does not make us evil. A dead Baathist to me, is like a dead Nazi to a Jew. We refuse and will continue to refuse the Arabization of our people.
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>implying kurds don't deserve to be gassed
>successful policies of Adolf Hitler
>being this economicaly illiterate
Shitler sold industry to the rich Jews which made his weapons production extremely innefective, on the other hand, based Saddam nationalised almost everything.
>source
>my fucking shitty ass
The fact that people feel the need to still lie about him after 70 years proves he really was the good guy.
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kurds are barbarians. can't wait till they get steamrolled by the hashd and iranian revolutionary guard after they do their referendum soon.
shut up zionist faggot
I also agree that kurds aren't people.
And Adolf system was unsustainable, that was the reason why he had to take other countries ressources.
Kurdistan will be free soon, to the dismay of many Persian/Turkish/Arab supremacists.
Bijî Kurdistan!
Bijî America!
Bijî Israel!
>If it's authoritarian and successful, it's national socialism
National Socialism had no concrete economic doctrine you dinkus, unless Saddam came out and outright said he wanted to pursue a National Socialist state and used National Socialist imagery then it wasn't national socialism. You fucking /pol/babbies will look for anything to tack onto your retarded ideology.
Baathism was Arab Socialism before Saddam and Authoritarian Socialism during Saddam's reign.
I've heard before that Baathist Iraq also had corporatist elements as well, which could fit them into Arab Fascism like said.
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>t. (((Kurd)))
Literally any ideology works if you have liquid gold coming out the ground to provide endless funds for your state.
The main reason any ideology fails is generally because it cannot support itself/regime economically.
And nations that fuck up despite their minerals are said to have Dutch disease or the resource curse. It's not a very falsifiable hypothesis.
I'd reckon Botswana's relative success is due to stable governance making it safer for investment.
Kurds aren't people desu.
It works except when it is communism
Life under Socialist Secular Somalia was actually pretty good
They literally made a written language and instituted a public works program that had great results
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I got some pics of Secular Somalia if anyone is interested .
wow a fucking city
Yoooo, what is this Dutch meme? My bf is Dutch and I like to meme him for it whenever I can, but speaking to him in Spanish and calling him German has gotten stale. Pls help
I have other examples of capitalism vs socialism if you need to compare
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There's some slightly Hitlerian aspects to Baathism, but its inherently anti imperial character makes it functionally the opposite of fascism. Baathism really is a liberation movement meant to free the Arab people from western domination, and Iraqi Baathists just vociferously demanded that this Arab movement be led out of Baghdad.
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South Korea practised something not unlike fascism though. They actively kept foreigners from getting hold of their industry and tech companies and the state was in bed with companies like Samsung, etc.
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But every other African country is also capitalist. Just look at them.
Botswana and Rwanda succeed due to careful economic oversight by educated bureaucrats, something other African countries do not enjoy.
Nobody cares about your shitty trolling
They followed the infant industry argument the gradual liberalization of the economy, that's not fascism (which is for autarky and against free trade altogether).
But point taken. It was a gradual process of opening up rather than full blown free market capitalism from the get go as in Hong Kong.
South Korea practiced a very similar economic strategy to Iraq. Industries were set up by the government, but rather than micromanage like the Soviets did, the government created private family-run corporations called Chaebols who were under heavy government influence.
1980s South Korea was basically today's Venezuela without the reliance on oil exports.
>economic intervention is fascism